>> well, i went and spoke with her stepson, henry luce, the son of the famous henry luce who did time magazine. and i did it because our corporate attorney, bill olson, said, "you don't have to ask the family for permission, but it's a good idea." so i went up and met with him. he was in the luce foundation offices in manhattan. and he was a nice fellow, quite gruff, and he heard me out. and he said, "well, i don't agree with what you're doing, but she'd like it." so, i could use the name. >> why didn't he agree with what you were doing? >> because he was something of a rino, to put it kindly. >> and that is - what's that mean? >> a republican in name only. he really was not conservative on most issues. he didn't really get this notion that, you know, women's groups - the so-called women's groups - don't represent most women in america. they certainly don't represent the kind of women that we work with at the clare boothe luce policy institute. but he had enough of a sense of what mrs. luce would have thought to say, you may use her name, even though i don't agree with a lot of your p

he is the son of the famous henry luce. i did it because a corporate attorney said that you do not have to ask the family for permission but it is a good idea. i went up and met with him. he was in the foundation office in manhattan. he was a nice fellow. he heard me out. he said that he did not agree with what i was doing and. >> why did he not agree with what you were doing? >> he is something of a rhino. he is a republican in name only. he did not really get the notion that women's groups do not represent most women in america. they certainly do not represent the kind of women that we've worked with. he had enough of a sense of what his mother would have wanted. he said we could use her name. >> who was she? what she was a remarkable woman who was way -- i >> she was a remarkable woman who was way ahead of her time. she was a congresswoman. she was a writer. she was the editor of "vanity fair." she was a devoted mother, a devoted wife. she had deep faith. when it came time to form this organization and find someone to na