former representative henry waxman, who was in progress for -- congress for many years, he and some other democrats went to the federal election commission and said we want to raise money to give to other candidates who we want to support, but we do not want it to go into our authorized campaign committee. can we do that? the fcc said ok. from that idea, we now have a system in which almost every member of congress, house, and senate, has a leadership pac. the supposedly use is they want to support other candidates so they can rise in the ranks in congress. even if you think of that, they basically want to buy their way to the top with that money. host: bring us back to the history of doing that. who is best known for using a leadership pac? what would viewers were member. -- what would viewers remember? guest: they would probably remember the name tom delay. there was a race probably 20 years ago, a little bit more, for the leadership in the republican conference. bob walker was a republican running to join in and rise up in the leadership. tom delay was there. tom delay had a leadership

in particular i want to thank members of the class who are here and bob carr, henry waxman, russell coyne marty russo and marty russo and. and dave evans and his wife am unsure if there is anybody else. i particularly think them and 30 other members of the class. and staff people and officers who participated in the research that went into this book. the interviews that i did with them provide a great deal of the intellectual material that informs the story in the message of this book. i am tremendously grateful to them to share humorous stories or poignant stearate stories that are consistently thoughtful and that are recorded in this book i will not try to tell stories i will not read the book you can do that on your own. but i do want to say that it is the power of the individual stories that cut through what is a very complex congressional history and procedure to explain working in that institution. also another class members here. i want to acknowledge his presence there is a terrific story shared with me from chicago the first time he as a candidate met the mayor of chicago, richar

former representative henry waxman, who was in progress for many years, he and some other democrats wente federal election commission and said we want to raise money to give to other candidates who we want to support, but we do not wanted it to go indoor authorized campaign committee. can we do that? the fcc said ok. from that idea, we now have a system in which almost every member of congress, house, and senate, has a leadership pac. they're supposedly use is they want to support other candidates so they can rise in the ranks in congress. even if you think of that, they basically want to buy their way to the top with that money. host: bring us back to the history of doing that. who is best known for using a leadership pac? what would viewers were member. guest: they would probably remember the name tom delay. there was a race probably 20 more,ago, a little bit for the leadership in the republican conference. bob walker was a republican running to join in and rise up in the leadership. tom delay was there. pacdelay had a leadership and used it liberally to help other members of congress,