so, i think the question of war crimes and the question of henry wirz is not, does henry wirz richly deserve to be hanged? i am against capital punishment, but i am a 21st century person, not a mid-19th-century person. had i been a mid-19th-century person, i probably would not have been against capital punishment, certainly not for war criminals like wirz. if you believe in capital punishment, there are very few people in american history who more richly deserve to be at the end of a rope then henry wirz, but if there were some they would have included jubal early, nathan bedford forrest for the massacre of black soldiers at fort p lo, they would have included perhaps the commanders of the confederate army -- not for being traitors, but rather for perpetuating war crimes against black soldiers, white pow's during the civil war. as i leave you with the stars, we have a few minutes for questions. -- as i leave you with these thoughts, we have a few minutes for questions. [applause] we have an anxious hand here in the middle row. >> wonderful talk. it may be perfectly true that conditio