to get everything else, but i also think herbalife fundamentally -- hey, look how well they dealt withlook at china. look around the world. i mean, this gives jobs to people. they say, well, it's the same thing. it's the way of selling. by the way, that methodology of selling is becoming more pre prevalent with the internet. now you have internet, and you have less retail. you have less retail. you can go knock on doors and tell people that. i i'm not here to even defend the company, but i can't -- it gets me going because i can't understand why the obvious in this case -- you look for these unique situations, and that's why i said it's going to be the mother of all short squeezes. that said, hey, ackman is a smart guy, and i'm not here to bash ackman in any way. >> we'll leave it on that note. carl, thank you for being here. thank you for calling in rsh we'll talk again soon. zroo good talking to you. >> likewise. carl icahn. halftime report continues with another big name who often moves markets. double line capital's jeffrey gundlach live in two minutes. first, what's coming up on p