herbert dorfmann, we have to leave _ the real problem.leave it there, _ the real problem. herbert dorfmann, we have to leave it there, but - the real problem. herbert dorfmann, we have to leave it there, but thank i we have to leave it there, but thank you so so much forjoining us on the programme. when alabama's supreme court defined frozen embryos as children last week, the shock and confusion was immediate. many fertility clinics have forced treatments over fears they could be prosecuted. while the ruling doesn't ban ivf, it has created confusion and division among christian groups in a lower case conservative state that has already banned abortion. here is nomia iqbal. ifeel like i'm going to get teary... for margaret, the politics has become personal. this ruling should not add anxiety onto something that is alreadyjust so hard and anxiety—inducing and just so taxing... she and her husband have a young son and want to build their family. they have turned to ivf and were just days away from her first appointment. margaret describes he