>> guest: herbert h. dow is of that family. >> host: what do you do at national review? >> guest: i'm a writer. i've been on the staff for 18 years. it was a full-time job for a long time. i lived in washington d.c. and worked at the washington bureau appeared five years ago i got recruited to come to hillsdale and i remained on the staff of national review, but it's become very much part-time. >> host: you were from michigan originally. >> guest: i am a detroiter born and raised in and around the city and went to university of michigan and upon graduation went out to washington and unexpectedly had a chance to come back home five years ago. >> host: what was that experience like? >> guest: that was great. i loved living in washington d.c. my wife and i that we would spend the rest of her days there. we sometimes thought maybe we would retire to michigan. but then i was fortunate enough to get a phone call and get a job. we kept talking about we are moving home and not a circus of felt like. >> host: are you glad you did it? >> guest: i don't miss washington. i liked liv

>> guest: the program is named after herbert h. dow, an individual gift but he's of that family. >> host: what do you do at national review? >> guest: i'm a writer for national review. i've been on the staff for 18 years. it was a full-time job for a long time. i lived in washington, d.c. and worked out of the washington bureau. five years ago i got recruited to come to hillsdale and i remain on the staff of the national review but it's become very much a part-time thing. >> host: you are from michigan originally? >> guest: detroit, born and raised in and around the city and went university of michigan and upon graduation went out to washington and unexpectedly had a chance to come back home five years ago. >> host: what was an experience like? >> guest: that was great. i like living in washington, d.c. i was not looking to leave my wife and i just thought we would spend maybe the rest of our days of there. we sometimes talk maybe we would retire to michigan, but then i was fortunate enough to get a phone call and get the job year and