also on cohen's list, herbert hoover. - donald "herbert hoover" trump. [audience laughs] - but he says politicians today are getting it wrong. - and what people don't realize about hoover is, he does recover his name in his lifetime. it just gets tarnished again posthumously. - [margaret] and grover cleveland, the only former president to do what donald trump is attempting. - [jared] it might feel or seem nice to get the job you once had back, but it is rarely as sweet the second time. - argaret] what does best-selling author jared cohen say now? - [narrator] "firing line" with margaret hoover is made possible in part by, robert granieri. vanessa and henry cornell. the fairweather foundation. the tepper foundation. peter and mary kalikow. the asness family foundation. the beth and ravenel curry foundation. the mckenna family foundation, charles r. schwab. and by the pritzker military foundation on behalf of the pritzker military museum and library. the rosalind p. walter foundation. damon button. craig newmark philanthropies. roger and susan hertog. chery

a new poll out today shows he's not herbert hoover. he's actually way, way worse. ll of historians and scholars ranks every president in u.s. history from best to worst, and while hubert hoover received the 36th spot, trump is ranked dead last. at 45. behind the likes of richard nixon, franklin pierce, even william henry harrison who died 31 days after taking office. joining me now is nbc news presidential historian michael beschloss. you have to be pretty terrible to be ranked below james buchanan, civil war failure, and a guy who only lived for 31 days as president. your thoughts. >> i would say so, and richard nixon, who would have been impeached and probably put in jail if it weren't for a pardon by gerald ford, don't you think? >> i would think. >> i have to begin by asking am i actually getting to talk to the number one "new york times" best selling author of medgar and myrlie as of this week? everyone give their congratulations to joy. that's not an easy thing to do, and the book deserves it. >> i think it was your blurb. i believe that's what did it. >> glad

herbert hoover, yes. donald "herbert hoover" trump.ook, when i got elected, i've been working my whole career as a senator, along back with my old buddy, harry reid, and others, trying to get big pharma, the pharmaceutical companies to play at the level and beat them. they charge extraordinary prices. khrarpblging for more prescription drugs here in america than anywhere else in the entire world, made by the same drug companies. you have a prescription for anything, take it to a local drug store, i promise you, if i put you on a plane and took you to toronto or paris or berlin or anywhere in europe, you can buy that same drug, that same prescription, for somewhere between 40% and 60% less. we said we'd beat them and we did. [cheers and applause] insulin, $35 a month for insulin for seniors on day beats instead of $400 a month -- diabetes instead of $400 a month or more. we're also capping the cost of prescription drugs at $2,000 a year for seniors. even for expensive drugs like cancer drugs that cost $10,000 a year. because of the prog

the one president i just don't wanna be herbert hoover. >> he kind of was herbert hoover because he was president in 2020 when the whole thing crash, so he's already that. also, january six, beautiful touch there. so trump hasn't got his wish with the stock market, though he is rooting for it to crash. the stock market is booming. economic recovery is so good that even fox has to be grudgingly acknowledge it. >> take a look at this headline in the washington post. bring it to you again because it was kind of a stand out. it says, falling inflation, rising growth give the u.s. the world's best recovery. i think the democrats are going to run without headline. they're going to plaster this all over the place. but are they right? is america, does america now have the best recovery? >> well, yes. >> i'll bet that the next time kjpe or the president takes any kind of questions of any kind on the economy, that washington post article is going to be right there, front and center. we've got the best recovery. that's a pretty good political slogan in an election year. >> yes. also helped by the

the new york stock exchange had suspended trading, acquiescing to tradition a dow herbert hoover rode with his successor on a one and a half mile parade route from the white house to the capitol. franklin waived his silk top hat and flashed his famous grin in response to the cheering crowds to camouflage the president, flexibility to war, inability to walk. inaugural chairman dr. carey grayson. woodrow wilson's former physician and no stranger to presidential cover ups, had a wooden passageway construct it from the capitol rotunda to the site of the swearing in on the east front film of franklin traversing the final 35 feet down a ramp to the speaker's podium. shows his body upper body swaying back and forth as he propelled himself toward lectern with his son james. on his left. neither franklin's cane nor his vice grip on james's arm is visible. even the oath of office had to be staged to create the impression that franklin was standing unassisted facing chief justice charles evans use his right hand raised his left surreptitiously grasping for support with a 17th century dutch famil

as californians love food, have to say some food posters now, because herbert hoover's extensive workroviding food and medical relief to belgium, world war one, we have an incredible collection of hoover archives that to food relief during the war just in general and as we are an institution dedicated to preserving history. i wanted show you this poster on the left. as you can surmise here from this image on food conservation is tremendously important in america. during world war one, citizens on the homefront were encouraged to canned food as patriotic preserve or to plant what they called victory gardens and to have weightless wednesdays that we could be sent overseas to soldiers early in the war. german u-boats sank nearly two pounds million of british wheat. so essentially america, you because of vast farms in the midwest, becomes the breadbasket of europe and, you know, we sent food overseas in mass quantities and then lots of new organizations popped up such as the ones you see on the one you see on the right here. these were known the land lassies. again, very snappy uniforms.

people came to recognize the voice of herbert hoover college trained engineer and physical strength strike and the world should know that if we are to have peace and the voice around smith from the sidewalk of new york and i don't manically and i snaked from this platform. now it's 1933 in this time despair. radio transmitted a new encouraging voice. assert my firm belief that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself itself. throughout the trying days of the depression, radio brought the heartening voice of the president to the people. fear vanishing and confidence is growing on every side. out of radio in the national fireside chat. radio gathered one of the largest audiences in history when edward abdicated. but i can't help. i'm so proud of the women i know. radio brought people of positive to great. and sometimes events. radio reporter herb morrison was describing the graceful arrival of the zeppelin hindenburg at lakehurst new, when suddenly none of the black and white gathered together, not even by that impression. that's right. terrible. all right, get out of the way. made it f

and i know nothing about herbert hoover so don't ask.everal right wing media personalities began to claim recently that taylor swift is part of a pentagon operation to influence the presidential election, a defense department spokesperson said, quote, "we know all too well -- [ laughter ] -- the dangers of conspiracy theories so to set the record straight, taylor swift is not part of a d.o.d. psychological operation, period." because if there's one thing that will sway conspiracy theorists it's an official statement from the pentagon. [ laughter ] new york mayor adams last week announced a new strategy for the city sanitation system that will store trash bags instead of piling them up on the street to be picked up it's part of his plan to bring new york city all the way in to the 1990s. [ laughter ] adams also announced the finalized rules for outdoor dining and said, quote, "we're fundamentally transforming what it feels like to be outside in new york." good, because no one here can afford to be inside. [ laughter ] a florida man was ar

i hope it's going to be during this next 12 months because i don't want to be herbert hoover, the one president, i just don't want to be herbert hoover. >> this cultish behavior implies a profound disrespect for the american people. but like i said, they don't care. because if they did care, they would be actually alarmed at how unpopular their policies are. for instance, voters have approved initiatives supporting reproductive rights every single time they have been on the ballot, but again, why would they listen to the american people when they can elect donald trump? who according to reports, would find ways to work around congress to ban abortion nationwide. american feminist writer jessica valenti explained it very well in her testimony at a recent reproductive rights briefing. >> the question i get asked most often is why. why would anyone want to deliberately create a world where women are forced to be walking coffins? it is inexplicable until you understand this has nothing to do with families or babies but enforing a world view that says it's women's job to be pregnant and st

they are the worst one since herbert hoover. what was happening in that time? it's terrible and we can't have this, it's got to stop. host: pennsylvania, democrats line. caller: hi, yes, i have something very disturbing -- i heard something very disturbing that trump said he will make stephen miller head of the immigration and they will go door to door to hispanic and black houses and knock on doors and make sure that there is no illegals in there. that reminded me of nazi germany when they went door-to-door to door looking for jewish people. it was very disturbing area than they also made the daughter-in-law in the rnc so she will make sure the money goes to her father-in-law. this is not democracy and not the united states of america. it's just disgusting. that's all i have to say. host: if you go to the website at the atlantic, a recent story about trump's quote knock on door. you want to read more, that's at the atlantic website. we will go next to vivian in tennessee, democrats line. caller: good morning, can you hear me? host: i can, go ahead. caller: tru

este en una estación de servicio ubicada en la calle herbert hoover 76.endo una recompensa 10.000 $ para quien proporcione información importante que los lleve a dar con este grupo de personas. >> involucra las 2 residentes del condado contra costa sufrieron heridas después de que un incendio consumiera su casa. el jueves por la noche en temple drive, en pacheco, el hombre y la mujer fueron llevados a diferentes hospitales con heridas graves. y también se sabe que otras 2 mujeres que vivían en esa casa pudieron escapar de forma segura. aún no está claro qué fue lo que desató las llamas. también estamos con vecinos de fairfield que dicen sentirse intranquilos luego que un hombre irrumpiera en la casa de una mujer y la agrediera sexualmente. según reportan, fue en east fairfield, una zona considerada segura por los mismos vecinos. de hecho, quienes viven allí nos aseguraron que no habían sabido de un incidente así nunca. >> normalmente está bien. es muy segura. yo tengo poquito. viviendo aquí 3 meses o 4 meses. mucha preocupa limón. >> según reportes, la ví

fue en el hotel holiday inn de la problemática calle haight herbert hoover en oakland, donde líderesla colaboración de todos. en el este de la bahía parte de este plan incluye a oakland, emeryville, richmond y agentes de la patrulla de caminos y el sheriff. y luego tenemos los federales, el fbi, que nos ayudaban con la prostitución. pero ya no. ya no vienen porque la cooperación. y eso va a cambiar ahorita. eso es lo que se presentó. este anuncio ocurre una semana después de que el gobernador newsom anunció el envío de 120 uniformados del chp para combatir el crimen en oakland y que, según información oficial, entre el 5 y 9 de febrero arrestaron a 71 personas y recuperaron 145 vehículos robados. trabajadores de zona latina ubicada en la calle Ángel burger. está de acuerdo que lo que se necesita son más uniformados. así? me da miedo porque hay mucha delincuencia que roban la gasolinera, pero acá en la puerta quebraron a 2 veces que intentaron a robar algo en esta calle ya cerraron varios restaurantes, pero aunque muchos quieren tener a más oficiales en las calles, no todos están de a

herbert hoover presidency was considered a resounding failure. according to my next guest, one of the most influential post presidential term in history. joining us now, life after power, seven presidents and their search for purpose beyond the white house. jared, welcome. >> thank you. >> this is a terrific book. i've read the whole thing. and what i love about it is you're asking a question that kind of applies to everybody, which is what happens after some moment of triumph, of climax. and i'm wondering, given the size of this job, is there a common theme, which is do all of them at some level get depressed? >> so look, it's the most dramatic transition in the world going from president of the united states back down to earth. and i pick seven presidents that each found a greater sense of purpose, following a totally different model. the common threat across all of them, each of them exuded something that was deeply principled about. while they may not have realized about it until after they were president, they doubled down on it. what they e

herbert hoover had one of the most influential postpresidencies in history.oining me now is jared cohen, author of the new book "life after power: seven presidents and their search for purpose beyond the white house." jared, welcome. >> thank you, fareed. >> this is a terrific book. i've read the whole thing. and what i love about it is, you're asking the question that applies to everybody. that's what happens after some moment. and i'm wondering, given the size of this problem, is there a common theme of, do all of them at some level get depressed? >> it's the most traumatic transition of the world, going from the president of the united states to back to earth. and i picked seven presidents that followed a different model. the common thread across all of them is each of them exuded something that they were deeply principled about. while they may not have realized it until after they were president, they doubled down on it. what they ended up doing after the white house was a reflection of something they were disciplined and dagogmatic abou. >> when i think

age or cognition, it is about lies of the economy, saying trump caused more job loss not since herbert hooverreased jobs up until covid and he almost saved half of them when covid went away. this woman, claire, saying you should be fact-checking trump. where haere s she been since 20? they were fact-checking every opinion, every burp, every joke. that is all they did and then they suspended it when biden came in. the cnn fact-checkersa disappeared, just went away and now they are going to have to da it because, kudos to the times for fact-checking him, they have to do it because they know they have to get joe out. >> i have seen you riding thingn down. donald trump said bidenomics don't work. speech.he talked about maganomi, which works. >> the dow closed at record highs. we have an economy doing a lot better than some of the middle nyclass will many of i the midde class. there are a number of politics.t there is no question presi president biden -- it is good to be back around the table with you. hav president biden will have to t answer to o this as we get clos. to the election.to t the las

by the way, the last time a president did that was a hundred years ago, herbert hoover. it's absolutely ridiculous, and you shouldn't have someone who's running for president applaud the fact that dysfunction actually happens in washington, d.c. the border has been chaotic. it's a crisis. something needs to get done, and these men and women in congress were sent up to there to solve problems, and unfortunately -- >> you ran for president but you're now endorsing ambassador haley here. the question is, you know, she just kind of summed it up there for voters, but how does that break through to republican voters generally as she's arguing that it's in total chaos when donald trump is taking credit for the chaos? >> well, one group of voters that definitely is resonating with isgeneral election voters. that's why ambassador haley is beating joe biden by double digits. if we want to have a sure election in 2024 we should have ambassador haley as our nominee not donald trump because she trounces joe biden. and guess what? that helps people down the ballot. that could prevent

. >> herbert hoover, history has -- pressure on his forehead.ow you know th one well. e and he went into the white house into one of the most lopsided victories in history in 1928. he's just tarnished by the great depression, they have to our people really numbered on him. and harry truman resurrect him after fdr's death in 1945 because they both knew what it was like to live in fdr shadow. but he was wrecked them because there's only one man who knows what it's like to be president, and how to feed the world. and they are staring at tothe e of world war ii in the face. and he asks herbert over to once again become the great humanitarian. he then becomes a great executive again, we organizing the executive branch under both truman and eisenhower. and he finally achieves that bipartisan feet, in 1960, when joe kennedy called on him to reconcile john f. kennedy and richard nixon to show national unity amidst the cold war. id so it's time to make herbert hoover great again. >> your rebook comes out tomorr, jared, and it's gotten a rave review alrea

herbert hoover, he had j german shepherds at the white house. they had to be removed. think it's the dog's fault. i think that's what mark is saying. i don't think it's the dog's fault. i think it's the owner's fault. but i can't believe they let this go on that long. why didn't somebody at the secret service speak up and say enough. >> t they must have been off limits. 11 times is a stag staggering nr of times to seek medical atension for the a dog bite. if it happens once, you can understand how it happens a second time. che.cheryl: rules for thee, nor me. >> no rules for the dog either. cheryl: i want to switch gears before we run, i want to take a look at the markets. we've got dow futures up and we're up 151 and that's great. but look at the nasdaq, we're up over 2%. this is the nvidia story, mark, this is unbelievable what we're seeing in the market this morning. >> look, nvidia and i heard multiple people say it, it's the most important stock to watch right now, the most important stock overall. the a.i. trend, this is something that's going to persist throughou

about lies about the economy, about saying, trump caused more jobs to loose sins -- not since herbert hooverally increase jobs up until covid and then he almost seemed like half of them went covid went away. and this woman, what was her name, yeah, saying, oh, you look at you should be fact-checking trump. where has she been since 2015? they were fact-checking every opinion, every burp, every joke, that is all they did and then they suspended it with biden -- when biden came in. the cnn fact checker just disappeared and just went away. and out there that have to do it because i think and kudos to the terms for fact-checking him, they have to do it because they know they got to get joe out. >> jeanine: i have seen you writing things down furiously and donald trump said, you know, bidenomics don't work in this speech. he talked about megan makes -- maga-nomics, which worked. >> harold: we find ourselves in an economy where you have wealthy people doing a lot better than many in the middle class. >> jeanine: i just want to separate them. >> harold: i think there's a number of things. but there'

congress and the presidency in a single term which was the first time that had happened since herbert hoover. 2022, with ronna mcdaniel still in charge at the rnc and trump still effectively leading his party from the sidelines, the republicans turned in a performance in the 2022 midterms that was the worst performance n by a party not holding the white house in decades, arguably in a century. even in 2023, last year, off year elections, democrats did unexpectedly well in elections in virginia and kentucky and ohio and every darn place that held any referendum on abortion rights after trump appointed judges overturned roe v. wade, and now it's 2024, and trump isr very much still in charge. and three swing state republican parties and counting are in total meltdown, but you're not allowed to blame trump for any a of that. and so heading into the republican party's meeting, big annual winter meeting this weekend, these were the headlines about the republican party chair, ronnie romney mcdaniel. quote, ronna mcdaniel hit with new wave of resignation calls. ronna mcdaniel faces mounting gop crit

this year not since herbert hoover in '32 have an incumbent have a down stock market year.ooking for peaking in q1. softness by may. bottom by memorial day. it will not be easy. charles: you're telling us here, left turn, right turn, this is -- >> sent met is there there. get back to the mag, super elite whatever you want to call them. charles: right. >> fundamentals will catch up with them. stock prices go down when the fundamentals catch up. charles: talk about current buys. i have 30 seconds, i want to go through quickly if we can. talk through, what is the characteristics here? these all look like relatively safe investments. >> i'm not, i don't hate the market. i'm not net short. i'm still net long by a big margin but i stuff that wasn't in tech. people yawn what is this old guy doing. bristol-myers, i'm looking for drug exposure. i already own pfizer for full disclosure. bristol-meyers, 4% yield beaten half to death. gone sideways. nobody wants to talk about it. sentiment is ripe for pretty good run. bar harbor bank. i think a mini s&l crisis coming 2025-26. this bori

. >> jessica: he doesn't want to be herbert hoover and now he has --. >> greg: i dismiss that.ith an analogy that i don't want to be on the five when it's low rated. that doesn't mean i want the show to have low rated it just means i don't want to be here when it gets a low rating. that's what he said. >> charlie: me neither. we have to go. coming up team biden is laser focused on the things that really matter, like misgendering people. ♪ matter, like misgendering people. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪) scout is protected by simparica trio and he's in it to win it! simparica trio is the first chew with triple protection. whoa fleas! and ticks! (♪) intestinal worms! whoa! heartworm disease! no problem with simparica trio! this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a

navy and then the final justice in this period was owen roberts, who was appointed to the court, herbert hoover, in 1930, and roberts, the one who had the famous switch in time that saved nine. he was perceived as flipping his vote so that the supreme court now was upholding new deal programs instead of striking them down, but was just a tremendous impact. fdr had, both in terms the number of justices and in terms of his very, very close relationships with them. and those close relationships just of a personal nature, preceded his presidency. they were political relationships in many cases, and they continued on the court and policy relationships. and frankly, this something that today's eyes and ears is really kind of astounding. it's something that i really learned about in in working and and the book is let me give you a couple of examples. so jimmy byrnes, as i just mentioned he was the justice had been a senator from south carolina and he was the one who left in the fall of 1942 to go to the white house. but while he was on the supreme court while he was a sitting justice after pearl harbo

herbert hoover didn't help with the depression, his policies. so there's a group of people, presidents that were considered some of the worst in history. what will be interesting, i think now now we're sort of in this heated political climate. what will be interesting is to reflect on ten, 15, 100 years from now and see where those rankings sit. >> exactly, exactly. >> yeah. because and not, you know, those presidents, they led during less divided times and so you're right, with the benefit of history and reflection, they could change. right? >> sure. i mean, you know, we've had presidents, uh, uh, in more recent times who are judged differently now than they were at the time. jimmy carter is one example. second, george bush have been judged a little bit differently as time goes by. >> that's a great point. >> now it's time for us to pass judgment on these snow talkers that donald trump unveiled. check it out. they're called the never surrender. hi tops. they're gold and have an american flag and retail at $400. but with only 1000 pairs availabl

there's a crash, i hope it's going to be during this next 12 months, because i don't want to be herbert hoover

about the economout age y, about saying, you know, trump caused more jobs to loseem in not since herbert hoover. well, he actually increased jobs hoover. up until the covid, and then he almost saved like half of them when whenand he wet away. and in this woman, what was your name? claire mccaskill, saying? >> like, god, you know, you should be fact checking trump where she'd been since 2015. they were back checking everyce opinion, birth, every joke.opino >> that's all they did.n, e. and then they suspended it. when biden came in, they did the cnn fact checker justpp disappeared. y and they'reawa going to have to do it because i think and kudos to the times for fact checking in.to they have to do it because they know they got to ge becaus joe out. >> you know, i've seen you writing things down furiously. trump donald trump said, you know, biden-nomics don't work in thi s speech. he talked about maga nomics, which worked well. >> the dow and the s&p closed at record highs. today we find ourselves in an economy, i think a dual economy where you have wealthier people doinghighs. a lot bettern perh

. >> i'm on a mission to make herbert hoover great again.rs in the white house. before he was president, he was the great humanitarian that fed the world after world war i. he was an orphan that was a self-made millionaire. he waltzs into the white house in one of the most lopsided victories in history in 1928. he's tarnished by the great depression. and harry truman resurrects him after fdr's death because they knew what it was like to live in fdr's shadow. they're staring the end of world war ii in the face, and asked herbert hoover to become the great humanitarian. he becomes the great executive, reorganizing the executive branch under truman and eisenhower. he achieves the bipartisan feat when joe kennedy calls on him amidst the cold war. it's time to make herbert hoover great again. >> your book comes out tomorrow. it's gotten rave review from richard norton smith, i'm excited to read it my former colleague at the state department, in policy planning. i want to ask about thomas jefferson, founded uva, he faced an interesting situation i

they are the worst one since herbert hoover. what was happening in that time?t's terrible and we can't have this, it's got to stop. host: pennsylvania, democrats line. caller: hi, yes, i have something very disturbing -- i heard something very disturbing that trump said he will make stephen miller head of the immigration and they will go door to door to hispanic and black houses and knock on doors and make sure that there is no illegals in there. that reminded me of nazi germany when they went door-to-door to door looking for jewish people. it was very disturbing area than they also made the daughter-in-law in the rnc so she will make sure the money goes to her father-in-law. this is not democracy and not the united states of america. it's just disgusting. that's all i have to say. host: if you go to the website at the atlantic, a recent story about trump's quote knock on door. you want to read more, that's at the atlantic website. we will go next to vivian in tennessee, democrats line. caller: good morning, can you hear me? host: i can, go ahead. caller: trump

the worst economy since herbert hoover. even before covid, he ranked seventh since, like, 1960.aid it so people would believe it. could you bust open this lie about donald trump doing well against black voters? because it's a lie. the data shows it's a lie. the data shows that people in the media keep repeating this lie, that trump somehow has some magic with black voters and is doing better than other republicans, when he's just not. >> he is not doing what they are saying. he clearly, as you stated, did less than john mccain and other republican candidates. let's be real clear. we're talking about a man that was just found liable for lying about how many square feet he had in his bedroom. why are we being surprised he'd lie about how many blacks are voting for him? he did not get the overwhelming majority or even a significant amount of black male voters, and he won't get it this time. particularly when insulting people over and over again. you must remember, when they campaigned, the republicans, saying, well, joe biden didn't deliver on voting rights, it's because every repu

thinking frontiersman, who embraced rugged individualism, a term populated by republican president herbert hooverhief prerequisite, to viability in the party. this near total submission to the former boss has persisted no matter how egregious his actions are, or how plainly he states his authoritarian goals. yet, the republican party now appears to have entered a new level of capitulation to trump. i kind of ho-hum acceptance phase, we are full support as become almost mundane, just like joining a grocery line. there's a certain power and bland and seemingly harmless gestures from people who know better. permission structure's strength overtime. complicity calcifies in obscurity. go ahead. >> i was just saying, it used to be that republicans, or in the early days, would have to justify mean tweets. if you listen to what a certain senator aside from utica. but now, he's classifying as quote, mean tweets, rape, donald trump raping a woman, according to a judge. >> defaming her. >> defaming her. >> saying nasty things about a lot of women. >> and also, saying nasty things about generals he's going t