mckinley appointed the only professional library and herbert put on and i was curious how did putnamorkout as a library in being the first professional library to take the job? >> a small correction? >> sure. >> actually, she was inexperienced library in and then the head of boston public. he was able year. he wasn't trained as a library and except for his experience in many at minneapolis as the head librarian. >> was he related to the putnam potion? >> yes he was, he was from the boston put on family. he worked out wonderfully because he was actually a library and from 1899 until 1939 that he had that building to play in 40 years. he brought in the library, librarians of the world as a constituency. back in 1896 when their jefferson building was open congress said what have we here we have this huge building, we don't know much about this institution. general casey and mr. swa offered worked together despite the differing tastes and they had hearings on what else to do and they brought the american library association to say what do we do, how do we handle this? putnam and dewey we