used to be over to and i learned many things from a person who many of you here have heard of, herbert stein, it used to be richard nixon's chairman of the council of economic advisers. he used to say the difference between a growth rate of 1% 2% is 100%. and that is absolutely true. if you look over 30 years you double at 2% and you don't double at one percent, you would be about half of the 35 years of where you would be if you are growing at two percent. these have very important consequences for the long run, these low numbers. and everybody's trying to find out what's going on. >> you gave a speech last night that i read last night and he talked about long-term interest rates, cyclical versus structural. we had we had discussion about productivity and the weakness of investment. investment has not showed up in this recovery, at the u.s. corporation sitting on 2,000,000,000,000 dollars worth of cash, board rooms are not interested in capital expansion, why do you think investment has been so weak? what must happen before we see an excel ration? >> investment was higher before the oil pri