herger was working on. in looking at the medigap policies, i understand you have licensing agreements with insurance companies, is that correct, sir? >> we have a, an arrangement where we have our brand that is lent to them, assuming that -- >> but this is the licensing agreement? >> you can call it a license agreement. we called it a royalty. >> i'm going to get to the definition of royalty in a moment. and under the medigap arrangement, only dues paying members, aarp dues paying members are allowed to participate in the medigap policies, is that correct? >> again, if i could -- >> transfix runs the organization, can you answer that question? is it only dues-paying members that are allowed to participate in the aarp medigap arrangement with the insurance companies? >> i believe we have some products that you don't have to be -- >> i'm talking specifically about medigap. >> when you start out then the answer is yes. some way the program and they stay with the insurance, and we're happy that they stay with t

herger was working on. in looking at the medigap policies, i understand that you have licensing agreements with insurance companies; is that correct, sir? >> we have a arrangement where we have our brand that is lent to them assuming that -- >> this is the licensing agreement. >> you can call it a license agreement. we call it a royalty. >> royalty. okay. i'll get to the definition of royalty in a moment, and under the medigap arrangement, only due-paying members, aarp members are allowed to participate in the medicare policies, is that correct, sir? >> sir, again, if i could? >> well, mr. rand runs the organization. mr. rand, can you answer that question? >> you -- >> is it only due-paying members allowed to participate in the aarp medigap arrangement with the insurance companies? >> i believe we have some products that you don't have to be -- >> i'm talking specifically about medigap. >> when you start out, the answer is yes. some leave the program and stay with the insurance, and we are happy that they s

herger was working on. in looking at the medigap policies, i understand that you have licensing agreements with insurance companies; is that correct, sir? >> we have a arrangement where we have our brand that is lent to them assuming that -- >> this is the licensing agreement. >> you can call it a license agreement. we call it a royalty. >> royalty. okay. i'll get to the definition of royalty in a moment, and under the medigap arrangement, only due-paying members, aarp members are allowed to participate in the medicare policies, is that correct, sir? >> sir, again, if i could? >> well, mr. rand runs the organization. mr. rand, can you answer that question? >> you -- >> is it only due-paying members allowed to participate in the aarp medigap arrangement with the insurance companies? >> i believe we have some products that you don't have to be -- >> i'm talking specifically about medigap. >> when you start out, the answer is yes. some leave the program and stay with the insurance, and we are happy that they s

herger was working on. in looking at the medigap policies, i understand that you have licensing agreements with insurance companies; is that correct, sir? >> we have a arrangement where we have our brand that is lent to them assuming that -- >> this is the licensing agreement. >> you can call it a license agreement. we call it a royalty. >> royalty. okay. i'll get to theefinition of royalty in a moment, and under the medigap arrangement, only due-paying members, aarp members are allowed to participate in the medicare policies, is that correct, sir? >> sir, again, if i could? >> well, mr. rand runs the organization. mr. rand, can you answer that question? >> y -- >> is it only due-paying members allowed to participate in the aarp medigap arrangement with the insurance companies? >> i believe we have some products that you don't have to be -- >> i'm talking specifically about medigap. >> when you start out, the answer is yes. some leave the program and stay with the insurance, and we are happy that they stay

now, usually we get criticized for always going back to the herger 8480 debate and that is always theand all that is used. our friend was saying they are going to try the same clips this week but i have a different clich to show to to go back to the first in canada. it was 1968. a lot of things happening but it's interesting to see how that debate shaped up because there were four parties and it was the [inaudible] they didn't let him in because he did this kind of last half hour and to our debate, and this was one of the moments in at. listen to see what you're talking about, the question coming from ron and 1960 the attack on the opening debate just like the class. >> the national debate, life and in color from the confederation hall in the west block of the parliament buildings in ottowa. >> you cannot win because you are not fielding enough candidates. in view of the record of political instability that seems to accompany the minority government, all minor parties not a liability in our parliamentary system. >> i think a minority government, responsible one, can certainly receive