and brian darling columnist of human events and director of government studies at the heritage foundation let's get started ok there are have been two raids this week by l.a. occupy philly and you know the old saying firstly first they ignore you then they ridicule you then they fight you then you win it's starting to look to me like they're winning l.a. city council has announced in response that they're going to have a vote on whether or not to strip corporate personhood you know to support a constitutional amendment to end this which is one of the consistent demands of occupy wall street groups all around the country similar resolutions of past in boulder in missoula so damn my radio show i had jack abrams off on here's what he had to say about it. would you support a constitutional amendment that says that corporations are people and money isn't speech well i think it's got to say a lot more than that to be honest with you there's a lot more but there's a lot more problems here but if you didn't back then you could get out and you could start then you could pass the laws that you're talking

future and brian darling for human events dot com and director of government studies at the heritage foundation let's get let's get started well don't you guys are glad to have you here with us the senate republicans yesterday filibustered a payroll tax cut extension for one hundred. million americans a thousand bucks apiece on average and at first they filibustered this because there was certain acts of three point eight percent on income over one million dollars on the million and first so that was you know that they didn't go for that now they're talking about slapping the keep the keystone x.l. pipeline in there which obama has already said he doesn't want anything to do with he will vote he will veto so it sounds like what they're saying is we'll give the middle class their tax cuts but only if they're willing to choke on the pollution from our refineries why do republicans insist on combining tax cuts for the middle class with poison pill well obama not liking the x.l. pipeline is actually sort of a recent development i mean he's very much been in favor of the x.l. pipeline on behalf of his uni

darling columnist of human events dot com and director of government studies at the heritage foundation ok gentlemen let's get started it looks like the government won't be shut down but whether or not one hundred sixty million americans are going to get hit with a thousand dollar a year pay tax increase is still up in the air the republicans first said oh i will will not hit them with this tax increase if you'll just. give us a pipeline across america that we consult you boiled to china or something whatever i don't get the whole d.c. deal there and then the speaker house john boehner came out today and doubled down of that he said that this bill comes over to us we will make changes in it and i will guarantee you that the keystone pipeline will be in there when it goes back to the united states senate so you know we had two wars republicans didn't need balance or pay on that we had tax cuts the problem is didn't need what's the deal why why can't they just say hey we like tax cuts we're going to give these people a tax cut i don't get it brian what am i missing here i think you're missing a few things f

let's listen to what he said today at the heritage foundation. >> i'm not a scientist nor am i a physicistthe scientific community owes us more in terms of a better description or explanation about what might lie beneath all of this. but there's not enough information right now to be able to formulate policies. >> is he going to give up on evolution next? by the way, that's a stark contrast to the position he took, mr. huntsman did, in august, fairly recently when he tweeted did he trust scientists on global warming and he said call me crazy back then. he's joining the pack. he's joining the clown show. we'll be right back. >>> and we still believe in the words of man who called for a new nationalism, all those years ago. the fundamental rule of our national life, he said, the rule which underlies all others, is that on the whole and in the long run, we shall go up or down together. and i believe america is on the way up. thank you. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. >> we're back. that was president obama earlier this afternoon in kansas evoking the spirit of teddy roo

let's listen to what he said today at the heritage foundation. >> i'm not a scientist nor am i a physicistand say the scientific community owes us more in terms of a better description or explanation about what might lie beneath all of this. but there's not enough information right now to be able to formulate policies. >> is he going to give up on evolution next? by the way, that's a stark contrast to the position he took, mr. huntsman did, in august, fairly recently when he tweeted did he trust scientists on global warming and he said call me crazy back then. he's joining the pack. he's joining the clown show. we'll be right back. i'm an expert on softball. and tea parties. i'll have more awkward conversations than i'm equipped for because i'm raising two girls on my own. i'll worry about the economy more than a few times before they're grown. but it's for them, so i've found a way. who matters most to you says the most about you. massmutual is owned by our policyholders so they matter most to us. massmutual. we'll help you get there. our machines help identify early stages of cancer, and

let's listen to what he said today at the heritage foundation. >> i'm not a scientist, nor am i a physicistn that discussion. and i would say that the scientific community owes us more in terms of a better description or explanation about what might lie beneath all of this. but there's not enough information right now to be able to form late policies. >> is he going to give up on evolution next? by the way, that's a stark contrast to the position he took, mr. huntsman did in august, fairly recently, when he tweeted that he trusts scientists on global warming and he said, call me crazy, back then, i believe in evolution and climate change. he's joining the pack, he's joining the clown show. we'll be right back. ♪ sen♪ co-signed her credit card - "buy books, not beer!" ♪ ♪ut the second at she shut the door ♪ ♪ girl started blowing up their credit score ♪ ♪ she bought a pizza party for the whole dorm floor ♪ ♪ hundred pounds of makeup at the makeup store ♪ ♪ and a ticket down to spring break in mexico ♪ ♪ but her folks didn't know 'cause her folks didn't go ♪ ♪ to free-credit-score-dot-com har

it's amazing, everybody, the heritage foundation, newt gingrich, everybody else has figured out that mandates are bad. but he's still standing there with mandates. >> let's about what you said then about the health care, you said that you like it that it was achieving goal for everyone to have health care. it was a personal responsibility. if the mandate is off the table, how do you do? >> what has been developed as a concept called patient power by john goodman which involves tax code. if they don't want to buy any of the health care, their charitable contribution goes to the tax credit. the tax credit takes care of it. but the challenge that you've got, and this is why everybody finally, at least every consecutive starting with the heritage foundation, which is where i was originally the more you look at it, two things become clear, you are extending politicians into people's health care in a way which in the long run will cripple the system. because you end up in all sort of definitions what can you do and what can't you çdo? that's exactly what's happening in massachusetts under romney care. the second is, in the long run, you can't afford the kind

jon: let's hope all the diplomats are not away for the christmas holidays. peter brookes at the heritage foundationk you. >> thank you, jon. jenna: it is an issue that affects millions and millions of americans. congress has just a few days to hammer out a deal. otherwise there will be no more payroll tax cut. this tax holiday will not be extended. why lawmakers are deadlocked is something we'll discuss with house majority leader eric cantor who joins us live coming up next. my name is jill strange, i'm forty-nine years-old, i love gardening, and i love volleyball. i've been taking osteo bi-flex for several years now. i really can't see myself not taking it. osteo bi-flex is a great product. i can go back and do gardening with comfort. [ male announcer ] osteo bi-flex, the glucosamine chondroitin supplement with 5-loxin advanced. shows improvement in joint comfort within 7 days. [ jill strange ] since taking osteo bi-flex, there's nothing that i can't do. [ malannouncer ] osteo bi-flex. the #1 doctor and pharmacist recommended brand. jon: a new battle heating up in the gop race for the white house.

let's get right to it. joining me are former obama state department official and currently princeton professor, anne-marie slaughter, author of "foreign affairs," gideon rose, and nile gardner, director for the heritage foundation'sthatcher center, ian bremmer, president of the eurasia group, global consulting firm. the first thing i want to get on the table is pakistan. and get a sense as to whether anyone think anything is going to fundamentally change because it seems like the relations have deteriorated once again. but are we still in the same dance where we need them because we need the access roots to supply afghanistan and they need us because a quarter of the military budget is paid for by washington? >> as long as we have troops on the ground in afghanistan, i think the answer is yes. we are, of course, moving to exit. the pakistanis understand that. clearly the closer you get to exit, the more you realize, wow, they're not going to pay up as much anymore. what are we going to do? what's our option? i think it does start to unravel before we get to the end of that game. >> you have a guy, steven crazner, former bush department official, who had the job anne-marie had, who says we should cut all aide to t

heritage foundation, we used the mandates as a way of blocking her. the politicians rather than the doctors wind up defining health care. so it was a mistake. >> letng man. you are making a living. you have got a good job. you could buy health insurance but you decide not to. you would rather go to ball games but then you get critically ill. you are in intensive care. you have no held insurance. you should take care of you? >> john goodman came up with an answer. he said we ought to have a refundable tax credit to help people buy insurance. your share goes into a charity pool. something happens to you, you are taken care of by that pool so that there is, so that you are taken care of. >> taxpayer money? >> yes. it would have been the tax credit you would have used to buy health insurance. you may not get a private room or everything you want but you are taken care of. i think it's important to look at that and try to figure out are there practical ways to help people who don't insure themselves without making them eligible for everything everybody else gets who is paying the price, writing the check every month. >> you're a 30-year-old and you kno

let me remind people here that according to the conservative heritage foundation, net regulatory burdens increased in the years george w. bush assumed the presidency between 2008 and -- between 2001 and 2008, the federal government imposed almost $30 billion in new regulatory costs on american, about $11 billion imposed in fiscal year 2007 alope. with regard to the numb of pages of regulations, the code of federal regulations totaled 145,000 pames in 2007 alone. the obama administration issued an executive order, 13563, and a memorandum on small businesses and job creation an executives -- and the executive order instructed them to seek the views of affected entities prior to proposed rule making and it calls on agencies to engage in periodic reviews of existing regulations. so -- 15 seconds more. if we come here and instead of dealing with the issues impacting small businesses and that is access to affordable care so they have access to job but rather oppose the obama administration for setting regulations. let's set the record tathe and talk about the regulations urn the republican adm

heritage foundation. beater g tpeter good to see you. >> good to see you. gregg: you say there are three areas we should be concerned about. cyber activism. let'sirst. >> that's when a group goes out and high school a political statement it wants to make or advance some sort of agenda. it can be generally harmless. it is intrusive and it messes with people's cyber capabilities and computers annette works and things like that. that is probably the least damaging. gregg: what about cyber crime? >> that's a big issue here. it's actually one that people don't talk about. it could be anything from identity testimony or to something like this act as well where they took people's credit card numbers and used them for other purposes. people have to be very careful when they are online with their identity and credit card numbers. there are people out there who want access to them and will use them. gregg: what is cyberwar fair. >> that is military. essentially where a potential add srer say are row or enemy will get into your computer systems and shut them down. the united states needs to be very conscious of this. the pentagon gets attacked on a regula