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i don't think it's herman cain and michele bachmann. this is much more profound than that. >> we need to take a quick break, laura and karl stick around. carlie and dr. ben carson surging in the polls, so how did the other candidates do and what can they do to make their own jump? their own jump? that's at ally bank no branches equals great rates. their own jump? that's it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. edition of "on the record." >> political outsiders like donald trump, carly fiorina and dr. ben carson must be doing something write -- right as their drastic rise in the polls continue. how are they addressing outsiders like donald trump taking the lead in polls? >> you dare take a swipe at trump? he doesn't seem to take the first swipe. you take the first swipe at him he is going to nuke. >> you listen. bottom line is this isn't about donald trump this is about me.

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but number three, start talking about substantive issues and the rest of them will follow him. >> herman cain, good to talk to you. yes or no, glad you're out of politics? >> i'm glad to be. >> fast, i have to go. you can't answer, can you? all right. you coming back, herman? >> no. i can tell you that. no. i'm glad to be out. >> what can a new president do about the new iran deal if it passes? i'm joined next by a supporter and critic of the deal. breaking news, the suspect of the aricuation orders still in effect for lake county destroying homes and killing eight people. back to the judge. >>> breaking tonight, the suspect in that string of arizona highway shootings is talking. we'll go live in the west coast bureau with the details. will. >> good evening, judge. leslie merit junior is the prime suspect according to authorities here. today, they ended up laying out part of their case against him. these shootings started on august 29th and shortly there after detectives used bullets in the cars that had been shot to determine the exact type of gun they're looking for, a handgun. they went to

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i'll remember that from herman cain. i'm an ordinary guy even though i come from this famous political family, i'm kind of just like you. the big risk for jeb bush is that everything that he says about this particular topic reminds people of two things, number one, his brother wasn't exactly known for being an intellectual wasn't enough to cram for the answers and didn't stop him from being president. but that jeb himself may know the answers to those questions because he's being advised by the same neocons that got us into iraq. trump is running against that sort of thinking that got us mired in a war we didn't have to fight courtesy of jeb's brother. marco yubio who has no more foreign policy experience yet he's on the committee. he was head of the house of representatives in florida. so none of the candidates really have the portfolio to say that they've got so much more knowledge just because they're elected officials than trump does. so unfortunately, i think it's just a problem for all of the candidates. none of th

you just had herman cain on. he i remember they asked herman cain what his favorite kind of pizza was before they got to the first foreign policy question. that is going to be a test of the debate tonight. the first job of the president, the first job is protecting the country and to me everything else is secondary. >> well, we will certainly be watching. what do you think, a fair question on what's going on in hungary and how to resolve that problem? >> well, i think that would be a fair question. i think that test the candidates'' understanding not just of the refugee problem in europe but the failure of obama's policy in the middle east. there are a huge range of questions to be asked out there. >> you know what i would ask is what's the difference between a migrant and a refugee because even you helped me with that the other night i don't know if you know that but there is a difference. >> look, this is a problem that's not just europe's problem. if, in fact, among the legitimate refugees there are terrorists

leland: that argument didn't work so well for herman cain. does it work for donald trump?> so far it does. so far donald trump defies laws of political gravity. and a lack of specific knowledge about the problems facing this country. other than saying i'm going to do it because i'm donald trump so trust me. i don't think this will cut it but so far i have been wrong. leland: lynn, are you willing to make a prediction? >> i think at some points people understand that people aren't trying to give him and s.a.t. test, but you have to bring something to the table. everyone knows even if you do a home remodeling project, there is a learning curve. i think donald trump has to bring something more to the table because if nothing else as time goes by, it may not happen forever. and i don't see why he doesn't want to have some interest in knowing a little more and to get beyond bluster. but as judy said. if you are saying whatever he's doing is working, it doesn't absolve you of the responsibilities of knowing more, just in case you do become the president of the united states. >>

herman cain was an outside washington candidate. people can tell you very little .bout herman cain over time, i think it was proven that he should not be president. i'm not telling you that will be proven about carly, ben carson, or trump, but what i am telling you is that we of gotten nowhere near that where people have made that determination. if you look at the difference between last time and miketime, you mentioned huckabee. correct me if i'm wrong. i would put an carson in that category, ted cruz, maybe there are a couple i am missing. doesn't that make for a much more crowded and competitive playing ground in iowa than you had last time? , and a muchtely more credible field. last time, we could come in the top three in iowa. once you are in the top three in iowa, there is like a reset -- not the romney reset -- another reset where you shuffle the deck and have a smaller number of candidates. we felt that we could be the conservative alternative because the other candidates that would move forward would not be all that conserv

. >> proving the herman cain or michelle bachmann flash in the pan. >> his not over yet.s a train wreck you. can't look away. he is entertaining. a showman. >> i think you're -- i respect you. think you're triflizing him. poem don't get him or say -- people don't get him or say he was a showman a real estate titan building an empire, and how people can play fast and loose with that and mock the empire. the fact of the matter is long before he became a tv star, he was a successful businessman. so i think that trivializes that. do you think that is what some woman are looking at regardless of now and then he offends them with his language and demeanor? >> i think they're sick of the idea that women or overly sensitive, we're victims. we're strong and that is why i think this ad will do very well for hillary clinton. it speaks to the power of women and it doesn't talk down to us the way the democratic party has done now for two election cycles. so, look, you're right. he is a strong candidate if don't know how this is going to end but i think tea end of the day, when women h

together, but you go through these waves and i think it was four years ago we had a love affair with herman cain and then michele bachmann. but they come and go. is there anything that you see in carly fiorina that suggests she might have more staying power? >> yes. she has a stealing intelligence, she has incredible television presence. i think this woman will go all the way. i could be wrong, i'm sure you all will mock me if i am. but i see it having two where i am candidates going at each other and i think carly will be president. and i love her. >> there is no doubt that she was the most commanding presence on that stage and no doubt -- >> by far. other than donald. >> right, the two best personalities on the stage carly fiorina and donald. >> and she beat donald trump when they asked her how she felt about his female remark, she took the high road, she didn't criticize him trekdirectly amer was listening. >> she said she's beautiful. >> when we come back, what if i told you the biggest issue in this race just happened this past week? is that a problem for that particular lady? >>> take on f

is not michele bachmann or herman cain. this is not a joke candidate that will pop up and go away.ark: every other candidate would kill for his poll numbers. john: donald trump at 11%, more than double his preannouncement total. mark: he predicted once he was taken seriously, he would rise. john: every leaderboard insight. mark: crazy high best in show marks on everything from handling the economy to immigration. donald absorbs anything you fire at it and uses it as fuel. >> donald trump, donald trump, and donald trump. ongoing attempt to understand the trump phenomena, --did a focus group less last night with 12 donald backers in new hampshire. him callou hear mexicans rapists, does that bother people? do you think? >> classy. i think he would bring a lot back. >> i look forward to it. >> it's an interesting thing every day. mark: what, if anything, will you is his caps on? he is successfully parlaying anxiety. there's a healthy dose of racism and what he is doing. in ames, iowa, mark asked trump about his suggestion mccain is no war hero. trump survive this? will he take a dive?

if you go back four years ago in the league was herman cain, michele bachmann. romney was there, gingrich was there. a lot of people and perry and most of them didn't get past iowa. you really have to take a look and understand the way these races are. the first thing you have to understand as there is not one primary right now are not one caucus. there are many. different people are running against different people. shannon form is probably running against huckabee to some degree and maybe cruz is running against chris christie. nobody's going to win this race by getting 50% and states. they will win by getting a lot of 15% and 18% so you start running a race that way and it looks different. i've been involved in last four presidential races. i was with rudy giuliani and i can tell you is the strangest experience of my life because we would sit in our war room and see all these places were rudy was up by 15 points and nationally up by 15 points yet we knew he was going to have a lot of trouble because he wouldn't be conservative enough for republican primary vo

this summer, when he started rising in the polls, everybody said, well, look back four years ago, herman cainmichele bachmann, any of these guys who surged for a few weeks in 2011 and disappeared the minute they got scrutiny. trump has survived the scrutiny. when you look at ben carson, is he equipped to survive that kind of scrutiny, too, or does he fit more of the profile of a bachmann or cain or another one of the short-lived phenomenon of 2011? >> what's unbelievable about trump, some of the smartest minds in washington, you talk to people in this town, and no one knows how this story's going to end. they don't understand the rise of trump and don't know what the fall of trump will look like. many think it will happen. and if that's the case, carson is very well positioned to wait this thing out. the thing about ben carson that a lot of people don't know is he has a lot of money. he's an excellent fund-raiser and has done very well with small-donor donations. so he has the funds to wait out trump, see if he has implodes, and if he does, be the guy in iowa waiting to pick up trump's suppor

herman cain was an anti-outside washington candidate who waited for the top because of that but they can tell you very little as they did in overtime i think it was proof that he should be president. >> if you look at the difference between last time and this time you mentioned some candidates are running against the specifics. you mentioned mike huckabee. correct me if i'm wrong i would put carson in that category and ted cruz in that category. maybe there are a couple a missing. but doesn't that make for a much more crowded and competitive playing around in iowa than last time? >> absolutely and i would say much more credible field than last time. one thing we felt very coachable last time as we could come into the top three in iowa and once you have in the top three in iowa is like a reset not the romney reset but i matter where you shuffle the deck and have a smaller number of candidates and then we felt we could be the conservative alternative because we felt the other candidate ever to move forward within the field of conservative and so we saw the path. this time i would like

you know, if we were worried about that herman cain would have been the nominee of the party at thise four years ago. >> don't you think the trump upon no, ma'am that is a little different than herman cain? >> i don't think anyone knows what the trump phenomenon is. it's too early to tell. look what's going on right now. a food fight going on between jeb bush and trump who both think it's about them. it's not about them. it's about the american people. you don't hear them talking about that. they are just working over each other. the fact is i'm talking about things that matter to the american people. they are worried about each other, their image, how they talk to each other, how they call each other names. the american people are going to grow tired of that act from the both of them. >> charles? >> so you are planting the christie flag in new hampshire. how well do you have to do? >> i have to do well. i have to do well. >> how well? >> listen,. >> you have to win it? >> no, i don't have to win it. here's the question. the question is how many people are on the ballot when we get t

people could hundred little about herman cain. in overtime i think it was proven he shouldn't be president. i'm not telling you that's necessary going to be proven about carly or about ben carson or trump. what i'm telling you is we've got nowhere near where people have made that determination. >> if you look at the difference between last time and this time, you mentioned some candidates are running against specific other candidates rather than the rest of the field you mentioned mike huckabee. correct me if i'm wrong, i would put ben carson in that category. i would put ted cruz in that category, maybe a couple i'm missing. but doesn't that make for a much more crowded and competitive playing aground in iowa than you guys have last been? >> absolutely. at a much more credible field of the last time. one thing we felt very comfortable last time is we could come in the top three in iowa. once you have the top three in iowa, there's a reset, not the romney reset but another reset where you shuffle the deck edge of a smaller number

herman cain was an outside washington candidate who went way to the top because of that. but it people could tell you very little about herman cain and whether he should be president. over time it was proven he shouldn't be president. i can't tell you whether that's going to be proven about carly or ben carson or trump. what i'm telling you is we've gotten nowhere near where people have made that determination. >> if you look at the difference between last time and this time, you mentioned some candidates are running against specific other candidates rather than the rest the field. you mentioned mike huckabee. correct me if i'm wrong, i would put ben carson in that category. i would put ted cruz in that category. maybe there are a couple i'm missing. doesn't that make for a more credible proving ground in iowa? >> and a much more credible field. last time, we had the top three in iowa. once you have the top three in iowa, there's the reset, not the romney reset but another reset, where you shuffle the deck and have a smaller number of candidates. we felt we would be the c

you know, if we were worried about that herman cain would have been the nominee of the party at thisr years ago. >> don't you think the trump upon no, ma'am that is a little different than herman cain? >> i don't think anyone knows what the trump phenomenon is. it's too early to tell. look what's going on right now. a food fight going on between jeb bush and trump who both think it's about them. it's not about them. it's about the american people. you don't hear them talking about that. they are just working over each other. the fact is i'm talking about things that matter to the american people. they are worried about each other, their image, how they talk to each other, how they call each other names. the american people are going to grow tired of that act from the both of them. >> charles? >> so you are planting the christie flag in new hampshire. how well do you have to do? >> i have to do well. i have to do well. >> how well? >> listen,. >> you have to win it? >> no, i don't have to win it. here's the question. the question is how many people are on the ballot when we get there?

endorsed by nub lawmakers, the establishment, i think we are learning that -- remember, in 2011 herman cainent up and down quickly. one thing trump has taught me is a candidate that's really good at manipulating and getting media coverage and really savvy about the media can kind of ride that wave longer. i wouldn't have initially thought calling lindsey graham's cell phone and announcing it on television is a great idea but trump seems to understand the modern media in a way this no other candidate does. that's the lesson. if you can keep yourself in the attention all the time, that can help you to rise in the polls and get people to tune in to you. people are watching because of donald trump, that does help you. that is a skill. bernie sanders should learn from that in some ways. >> perry raises a very interesting point and a key point for trump. if he's going to have a chance of winning this nomination, that we'll have to get to the point where real republican elected officials start saying he's our guy, we endorse him. he's got to get some real endorsements. can you imagine that happeni

model. >> he is not herman cain or michele bachmann. he is a good man with a remarkable life story. he is more likely than not a parking place for republican voters right now. we will see how he performs tonight with the spot light on him. i think one other thing we are going to see playing out tonight is the moment of time, what is american conservatism? you will see candidates attack donald trump on issues as the proof point that he is not a conservative. conservatism is increasingly severed from issues. it's an emotional sentiment. the person with the hottest rhetoric, that's the person who is viewed by republican voters as the most conservative candidate. and the proof point of who is a rhino and a real conservative is who has fidelity to the person with the hottest rhetoric. to chris's point by the time you get to your 50 or 60th vote to repeal obamacare and republican voters see it they know it is play fighting, they know it is theater and they are sick of it and don't think the policy positions are worth the paper they are printe

after that, herman cain posted, "every other black republican in america chipped in $10 to get you a gift. here's $10." [ laughter and applause ] sweet of him. yeah.

john: this is not michele bachmann or herman cain.his is not a joke candidate that will pop up and go away. mark: every other candidate would kill for his poll numbers. john: speaking of polls, a new poll shows donald trump at 11%, more than double his preannouncement total. mark: he has been telling people for a long time that one he was taken seriously, he would rise. mark: the tops every leaderboard insight. mark: crazy high best in show marks on everything from handling the economy to immigration. >> here's the latest sign that donald trump absorbs anything you fire at it and uses it as fuel. a new poll has him at 32%. >> donald trump, donald trump, and donald trump. mark: in our ongoing attempt to understand the trump phenomena, we partnered with our colleagues at purple strategies into the best and did a focus group last night with 12 donald backers in new hampshire. >> when you hear him call mexicans rapists, does that bother people? >> didn't bother me. >> what would a trump presidency look like? >> classy. i think he would br

we within herman cain to have a great -- want him to have a great life. >>> all italian u.s.pen women's final today. michael douglas family featuring actress catherine zeta-jones. flavia pennetta near court trading blowing with roberta vin chi. a forehand down the line for pennetta and here's championship point. for her far court. and she finished it off winning 7-6, 6-2. her first grand slam win and apparently her last. >> before i started this tournament. like one month ago, i was -- i take a big decision on my life. and it is the way i would like to say good-bye to tennis. [ booing ] [ laughter ] you know -- you don't have to be like that, this, i'm really happy i mean. [ laughter ] >> that's how you doubt. win a grand slam -- do it. win a grand slam event like the u.s. open and then retire. >> now if she hadn't won the grand slam, was that still preplanned to retire or was that -- >> yeah, u.s. open was going to be it. she just happened to win it. >> okay all right. just go out on top. why not? >> pete sampras did the same thing right? >> just won everything and said hey

and head of people to tell you a little bit about herman cain and it is proven he was to be. i know say that will be proven about carson or trump but we're nowhere near it said period rather that is. >> with the difference. you mention summer running against specifically other candidates and you mentioned mike huckabee. ben carson, ted cruz, . >> absolutely and a much more credible field. one thing we felt very comfortable it is the top three in iowa. but another free set where you shuffle the deck to the candidates. windows are not the conservative. this time i like to say there are 16 people running and none of them are the front runner. in fact, my argument day la bit about the mundane the debates it to be the greatest field of the verb the findings didn't history for presidency. it is remarkable when scott walker is struggling who in my opinion is a very, very credible candidate. they are all well behind in some says the couple's in iowa those at 1% and 7% that is the best majority right now that just shows how good the field this ended is difficult they're all long shots

charles: that was herman cain last night explaining how progressive economist paul krugman took his commentsxes out of context. >> he talks about important things. we both agree that there ought to be more taxation of the billionaires. >> he must be driving the right wingers out of their mind. >> it is a pretty right position. charles: right now a lot of these progressives have taken his comments and what there trying to say is that conservative voters particularly white male working-class males while progressive economic policies but also vote against there own self best interest out of social issues. let's discuss it. fiscal times .com columnist. capital strategies, puerto rico president and political analyst. what do you make of that? this is something that generally can resonate with a lot of people because no one likes these fatcats getting away with not paying more taxes. >> didn't we go through like this? pandering to the masses. >> making 50,000. some guy in the hamptons you may $900 million you might. >> if not doing anything wrong while you do it. republicans don't do this. when yo

remember michelle bachman and herman caine? they were very high in the polls back then and then dropped out very quickly. it still remains a horse race and donald trump is right now in front. >> i doubt in four years we won't have forgotten about donald trump >>> an opposition rally in the democratic republic of congo has turned violent after fights broke out over support of the president. people were protesting against what they said were plans by the president to cling to power after his presidential mandate ends next year. >>reporter: at first the rally seems to be going well. then this. people rush to stop a dangerous situation. on the podium, a man suspected of being a supporter of the president tries to get away. opposition members chase after him and beat him saying they tried to disrupt the rally. >> we are suffering. we are suffering. we might as well be dead. opposition leaders in the capital accuse him of trying to delay next year's elections so he can stay in power longer. that's why they're protesting. >> the oppos

in 2000 it was rick perry and we had herman cain. and newt gingrich until mitt romney took the lead and held it. >> we'll see more about the debates. if anyone is catching fire is seems to be carly fiorina. >> i think she did well. i don't think there is denying that. there may be a difference about the commentary saying she won and how big of a bump she gets. they are notes inially going to equate. but given the focus that is on her, has a huge chance to build leverage that performance as she did the first one to continue to build the campaign. >> it is a fascinating race to watch and it is it a pivotal one right now. thank you. >> we'll bring you back to new hampshire when ed henry asks his question of hillary clinton. in the meantime, the illegal immigrant accused of gunning down a california woman a pored before the judge. sanchez a convicted felon was deported five times before making his way to san francisco. the case shines a light on sanctuary cities. and now to the criminal case against him. claudia has more? >> reporter: je

remember who was leading four years ago, it was herman cain. the pizza tycoon. lou: he was making it something of a hoot. i give herman credit for that. >> he was ahead in the polls. i didn't mean he was ahead in being funny, in the polls. lou: what the hell's the point, really? >> read too much into what goes on the year before. lou: marco rubio starting to sound like anti-establishment politician, this is a man who hasn't done anything but politics. >> he has to. that's the way to get the popular vote, the way to get people excited. he's the only guy people think of the establishment crowd that the establish sdment like. lou: he's the least establishment of the establishment crowd. >> exactly right. >> you got to be kidding me. >> chris christie, donors are stepping up. is there fire to come after the fanned embers? >> it may be so. chris christie has been good in both debates, i think. lou: i would agree with you. >> hasn't showed up in the poll numbers, but i think it indicates his campaign has some life left in it. we can overestimate the value of money and

he was like herman cain michele bachmann but if anything trump's number keen gig up and bush's numbers, among the other so-called insiders their numbers go down down right. >> i think eric is right ultimately you'll likely have a trump and anti-trump. so there's a competition on who that other person will be. the challenge for that other person will be is if you add up the poll numbers of the outsiders, carson trump, phonia even cruz even though he's in the senate fits in that. it is exponentially larger than that. you add to that two factors that are changed. one is campaign finance law can benefit people and the republican party establishment is held in tremendous usually the establish can come in and beat down the outsiders candidates. >> sara you asked donald trump about the man who is number two in a lot of these republican polls, dr. ben carsing, who disagrees with trump this is what your exchange with trump had. >> he doesn't understand it. >> why do you think that is? >> he just doesn't understand it and he's wrong. we have to come back bring back this country. we need borders,

i would remind everybody that herman cain led the race four years ago.herman cain didn't stay on this long. >> i will tell you everybody is looking to the non-reformers right now. there is a spot for the reform minded governors. anthony is right. let me say one thing. they need -- neil: let them finish. >> $100 million will be dumped on donald trump's head between january 1 and february 1. where will the republican primary voters peeled off at that point go? >> it could be 100 trillion. all these guys have a pulse. feed scout walkers and gun power before it starts tonight. it was really interesting speaking of gop strategist. trump has no official endorsements are many big wins in the party. the less he has, the better it is. >> make america great again. i've got tom brady. >> i thought that was his candidate. people are telling me i get ratings. i get e-mails that my trump accent sounds pretty good. neil: people who are like -- you'll get to hear a lot more about tomorrow. a lot more from charles, maria bartiromo, trish regan and never one of the covert

been watching trchl, and look at how he is peak i peaking, and they have looked at someone like herman cain last cycle, but a lot of it is coming from the support and hoping that he is going to peak, and now, we will need some new numbers to see what the trend is, but you will see ben carson upping the place in the polls, and don't forget about marco rubio and carly fiorina, because she was just an asterisk a a few months ago, and also -- >> and jeb bush is not doing so we well. >> right. and the other side of the spectrum which is jeb bush and back in june 22%, and in july 14%, so you will see the trajectory of bush head ing ing the opposite direction. >> yes, not looking good. and the first democratic debate in las vegas, brianna, and cnn is the host of the debate, but if jbd announces that he is running, the vice president, he will be allowed to participate in the debate, and anything yea or nay as far as the biden run is concerned for the white house? >> well, wolf, it is a day-to-day decision for joe biden, and there are a few folks who are getting the ducks in the row if he decides to

former presidential candidate herman cain goes "on the record." good evening, sir. >> hello, greta. >> what are your thoughts, sir, of carlie foreign naps foreign policy plan which is what she laid out at her debate about a week ago. >> i like it, i like it, i like it. she is talking about the united states of america being a leader nation. unstead of a reactive nation. and instead of being a follow nation. her statements have strong, clear and definitive. he you have got to tell you i'm impressed with the philosophical statements that she has laid out relative to foreign policy. i like it. >> what do you make of her strategy? she lays out what her strategy is and you compare it sort of with donald trump who says he doesn't want to tip off the enemy so to speak. he doesn't want to tell them what he is going to do. he thinks that's a bad strategy. she has made very plane what she intends to do. tell me which is the better approach politically and which is the better approach for the american people? >> in this case, carlie has the better approach b

we had herman cain and rick perry was leading and same 2007 candidates people rise and fall. in the five months before the voting starts how will it play out. there will be a lot of people rising and falling. >> there is an interesting line talking about trump. and the common thread. it is ideas and not the individual pushing them that prevail. i wonder if that will be true for this election as well. karl, thank you. it is always great to see you. >> charge of heart from the democratic front runner. hillary clinton apologizing and saying it was a mistake to use the private e-mail. she spoke out in washington and defending the iran nuclear deal and taking credit for. it we have the dramatic turn around from the democratic front runner>> reporter: it is a 180. she spent weeks and months refusing to say she's sorry and suggesting that she simply followed the rules and much ado about nothing. it is only the media asking her about it. and big turn about it with abc news. jeb bush saying she's only doing it under pressure. >> that was a mistake. i am sorry about that and i take res

that is the biggest hit so far he will continue to be the guy to beat but herman cain and michelle obama- and obama over winning at this point. >> also they were not building a stadium is like based -- basketball teams there is different from the trump phenomenon or into the audio or michele bock man. it is distinct but i think senator brown hits on something. i think the fans are finding it harder to say without adding a caveat that goes towards his demeanor. >> that is to the senator's point that people want some dignity but it is different. the first reality tv star we don't know that translates to votes. it is into a sprint but of marathon i would say he is the nominee if this is the last week of a january but there is a long way to go the debate on wednesday is key. people will see donald trump or scott walker can address the issues. charles: it is early but what does translate his enthusiasm. it is a reflection of amazing enthusiasm for in this candidate. >> but the republicans have abandoned their base and they say no more. they want something new and it is in just a vision but ke

ted cruz ain't rick santorum, he ain't newt gingrich, he ain't herman cain, he has resources, organizationush found himself today in the one on one duel with cruz, cruz could beat him. lou: he has rand paul just chewing on him. >> oh, man. lou: is that for paul's benefit, or is it -- what's at work there? >> well, i don't know how you all said it where you grew up, that's a whooping, he's putting a whooping on rand paul and stealing voters, rand paul is down at 1 or 2% and can't get anything going and trying to get back to libertarian roots. i don't know whether rand paul stays in the race, whether he trenches but he's in trouble. lou: chris stirewalt and senator cruz number one in power rankings. >> number one. lou: good to have you here, appreciate it. >> you bet. lou: on wall street today stocks rallied at then of a brutal third quarter for investors. the dow gained 236 points, the s&p up 36. enough to get out of correction territory barely. the nasdaq up 103 point. volume 4.4 billion shares. the worst quarter for the markets since 2011. the dow down 7 1/2, the nasdaq and s&p down about

. >>> plus, he was once the front-runner, former presidential candidate, herman cain, joins me with hisake on the gop hopefuls, including the man at the front of the line. and a reality check. wh

, you used to have herman cain on the show all the time.iant with marketing, the 9-9-9 plan was talking about the tax reform plan. jeb bush needs to be creative. he needs to be interesting with this. the donor guys want to see somebody serious, and jeb bush has got that, can he be interesting? a fighter, and most importantly they want somebody that can beat hillary clinton. neil: hillary clinton is campaigning, where is she? iowa? new hampshire? one of the things this rage at establishment candidates and jeb bush might be feeling that, the traditional argument is that after the flirtations with the outside the box characters they will come back to the mainstream guys, and jeb bush will be a beneficiary of that. do you buy that? >> jeb bush and advisers have to think, there's no way to think he would get the nomination if this cycle is like every other cycle and somebody like mitt romney gets it. if you're not committed to jeb bush, why would you not give a look to marco rubio or a first look to carly fiorina. they're in a better situation t

. >> he a black man and there's been republican support for other black candidates, herman cain the last time. i think muslims are the new target for this kind of racism. >> muslim is the new black. governor mike huckabee said this about president obama as he welcomed the pope. watch. >> i'm less concerned about what faith a person has. i'm more concerned about the authenticity of their faith and how that plays now the their policies. i'm also concerned about a guy who believes he's a christian and pretends to be and says he is but then does things that makes it very difficult for people to practice their christian faith. >> this is another form of bigotry. this is homophobia. this is an encoded way of saying we don't like obama because he supports a supreme court decision that a person of faith like kim davis violated and we should therefore support people who break the law of the land. that's what that's about. it's a dog whistle about that. >> i thought there was a separation of church and state that you put the constitution above what you believe that your personal faith may be and y

. >>> plus, he was once the front-runner, former presidential candidate, herman cain, joins me with hisake on the gop hopefuls, including the man at the front of the line. and a reality check. what can the next

the person leading in august was michele bachmann, then herman cain, newt gingrich. those poor folks didn't even finish in the top two in new hampshire, iowa. >> part of the problem when you talk about special interests, i remember when rand launched, it was to defeat washington machine. another candidate talking about special interests in the personal of donald trump who has this whole very compelling stick. he used to spread money around and ask for favors and that has been working with folks. do you feel like he's crowded out some of your message? >> i think it is great. that he actually demonstrates the hunger out there. that we do need to defeat washington machine. the reality is who is up right now? him being up in the summer. it is never indicating who is actually going on win this. >> can i ask you? here's part of the problem with defeat the washington machine. it is being given by a senator, a man who is the son of a congressman who served many terms, ran for president. he work on the guy's campaign. this is not some guy who just came out of nowhere. this is

outsiders make the impression on what we call off years, whether bernie sanders or donald trumps or herman cains that we've seen in the past. this is likely to settle down but it is going to come at a cost for those people close to the establishment. >> all right. thank you very much. nice to see you. >> take care, kris. >>> we will be right back. you should shop at grocery outlet first, because their prices are up to 60% less than what you'll find at regular stores. ♪ but wait- there's more ♪ shop here first and you'll always find more bargains. ♪ but wait- there's more ♪ amazing deals on big-name brands in every aisle. ♪ but wait- there's more ♪ like right now, monterey farms chunk cheese, two pounds are just $5.99. grocery outlet. bargain market. wondering what >>> welcome back. start you with a live shot from point reyes. not looking at fog this morning. you can see a little fog hanging out across the sand. elsewhere, we have sunshine across the bay, across the state and the rest of the west coast. if you are doing traveling from redding to tahoe, palm springs expecting sunshine. temperature