herman cain goes on record. nice to see you, sir. >> happy to be here. >> tell me, is the people who are supporting the outsider candidates now -- which would be carson, fiorina, and trump -- are they the tea party or more than the tea party? who are these people that support the outsiders? >> i think they're the tea party and more. you often hear about the old political model talk about 40% of the voters are going to vote democrat no matter what, 40% are voting republican no matter what, then you have those that are 20's in the middle or independent or whatever. here's an element i believe these outsiders are attracting, people who have never voted before. i have received many calls from listeners who said they've never voted before because they were turned off and felled disenfranchised. so i happen to believe these three outsiders as you're calling them, they're attracting from both parties, from the middle and taking people that never voted before. >> do you find the way they deliver their campaign informati

"we have to remember, in november of 2011, herman cain was doing really well. newt well"as you can recall in the 2012 republican primaries - herman cain dropped out even before the iowa caucuses, while newt gingricleft the race that may. may.remember you can watch tomorrow's debate live right here on cc 2.coverage starts at eight. cbs 2 news anchor kevin barry will have complete coverage of the debate on this week's iowa in focus.be sure to tune , sunday morning at 10100, only on cbs 2. the university of iowa has raised its minimum wage to eight-20 an hour. hour.this comes after the school initially hinted that it might opt out of johnson county's minimum wage increase. the universitytysays it made the change earlier this month. more than 700-temporary and student employees will now get a raise. cedar rapids is bucking the national trend of rising poverty rates. rates.according to finincial website smart-assest-dot-com the number of people living in poversty is down by more than four-thousand people compared to ten years ago.cedar rapids placed third in smart-a

herman cain. everybody remembers him.erman cain at this time in the campaign in 2012 was ahead of romney. look, carson's going to go away. he won't be the next negro in the white house. i can guarantee you that. i think we checked the box once-- no offense. i say this tongue in cheek. >> larry: we're not going to go black to black. >> you're not going to have back-to-back black in the white house. i think they're like -- >> you said angry white men are voting for carson. >> they are. you can-- but it's because -- >> are they angry because they're voting for carson like that's the only choice they have. like, "this is our choice!" >> this is our choice to get behind a real black. you know who said that, right. >> larry: rupert said it. >> do you think it's a symptom of the republican party just feeling broken now. i feel like they cannibalized a lot of good candidates. >> right. there's been a premium put on the amateur and i know carson cheaps championing, i have no experience." would he want a brain surgeon to work on hi

herman cain. thank you.ou will be watching the fox business channel tomorrow night. >> i'm looking more forward to this one than certainly that last debacle. >> we are all looking forward to it here as well here at the fox news channel tomorrow night. it's on the fox business network. that's our sister channel. 9:00 p.m. eastern. it's our sister network. fox business network and if you don't know how to find it head over to fox business.com/channel finder. and for the first time in more than a year, president obama and israeli prime minister netanyahu m >>> president obama and israeli prime minister ben i can't minute netanyahu have have -- benjamin netanyahu. this is first meeting between the two leaders in more than a year coming after a fresh burst of violence in israel. >> equally i want to make it clear that we have not given up our hope for peace. we will never give up our hope for peace. i remain committed to a vision of peace two of states with two peoples, palestinian state that recognizes the jewis

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and businessman herman cain led be more than 25 percent. and mitt romney became the nominee.see do the polls at this point matter? what do you think about it elana? are you making predictions for the field one year from now? >> all we can tell, the polls don't tell us what the nominee will be. if you look at last four open nominating contest, we have not seen the nominee pick up momentum until the last few months and some cases a week before the primaries began. john kerry hit his lowest point in poling in december of 200 throw when the voters went to the polls in january. and same for obama and mccain. see let's talk a year from now. who's going to be the next president. >> shaun, polling is a snapshot in time and on this side dr. ben carson, can he hold that momentum all the way to election >> there's see much that is going to happen between now and election day for that to be the case. one trend we have seen clearly is that the early front runners and the early polling front runners or the flavor of the month candidates. and you mentioned herman cane and newt grinning rich

herman cain. 999 tax plan.s what it is like being on a stage like you are seeing in the picture. he joins me now with some advice for these candidates. great to see you. good to have you on the program. >> thank you, trish. my pleasure. trish: your 999 plan is still being talked about. trump invited you to a rally. i wanted viewers to hear this. take a listen. >> mr. 999. come here. 999. when he said 999, i said what the hell is that? he had a good thing, right? trish: voters like the simplicity of it did you look at some of the tax plans including mister trump's that are now out there. what advice do you have for them? trying to make it accessible to the american public. >> have to talk about the how they are going to solve problems in addition to what the problems are. secondly, they need to be as specific as we can. specifics are those things that connect to the american people. that is why 999 connected. they may not have understood all of the mathematical underpinnings, but when they heard it and they knew

but december 2, herman cain was gone. we still have two or three weeks to see how this narrows out. >> what about marco rubio. he's been surging in the polls. did he do enough tonight to keep his momentum going? >> he didn't do anything to hurt himself. i was talking to the camera man here earlier, if i had to put my name and rep on the line, even a year out, if frank said james who would you pick today who will be the candidate, next november, i would say marco rubio vs. hillary clinton and hillary clinton wins. that's my guess. please don't hold me to that. >> the two front runners are ben carson and donald trump. how do you think the two of them did tonight? >> donald trump played it safe. he didn't do anything to hurt himself. ben carson played it safe. he was able to reset the conversation about himself. he was able to joke around and also prod the idea the questioners that thank you for taking me seriously, not asking me about a childhood statement i made. then he also got an opportunity to sort of present his own p

there was a moment when herman cain, people rallied around him. barack obama isn't on the ballot but the sense of white republicans smeared as racists and this was proof positive of how liveless the claim is. >> right. he offers a little bit of protection. he eval dates concerns and he says, you know, look, i have a black friend. i can't be racist. i want to push back or flip it a little bit. think about how carson has support amongst some black circles. >> yep. >> that goes in a different direction than what we would traditionally understand. a new pole came out that said if carson matched up with hillary clinton tomorrow 20% of african-americans would support him. that support is unheard of amongst republican candidates. that's amazing. >> that's one of the most fascinating things. barack obama won upwards of 98%, somewhere in that ballpark. you could see something more like margins of 80%. we may never know. leah, thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me . >> ahead a preview of tonight's main debate and what the crop of candidates doesn't

. >> you know, rebecca, shep touched on this, this notion that it's not quite like a herman cain fling, something that was going on four years ago at this time. that was much shorter lived. that if you look at how long donald trump has beaeeen numbere or two in polls or seen as a formidable force in spol polls ben carson similarly regarded in polls, it's part the similar of '42 fling thing. so does the party have to reassess how it is assessing and oftentimes dismissing these guys? >> absolutely. and we're at the point now where republican strategists and these other campaigns what we would consider the more traditional campaigns are definitely starting to take ben carson and donald trump seriously. they were late to the game and they will all be totally honest about that. they didn't take these guys seriously at first. but what is different this time that we didn't see in 2012 with some fof the herman cain, michelmichele bachma bachmann, you have the anti-establishment vote which is about 50% of the gop vote right now. and on the other side, you have the so-called establishment candid

on that herman cain, something to keep in mind. a lot of people compare herman ca cain. trump has been at or near the top for more than three months now. already he's proven more durable than herman cain. now let's take a look at the democratic side. this is the new poll an this race. hillary clinton had a fantastic october. she's up, since the end of september, she's up nearly ten points, now doubling up bernie sanders, 62 to 31%. clinton has also gotten some great news in the early states, iowa, where she'd been in a close race with sanders, she's now expanded her lead significantly there. and in new hampshire, where sanders had been ahead, hillary clinton, we're now seeing polls that put her back in first place there. so that debate performance she had, that performance before the benghazi committee, october seems to have been a very good month for hillary clinton. we can look back, though. where did the democratic race stand the last time there was a competitive democratic contest, at this time in the campaign? that would be in the fall of the 2007, hillary clinton w

yes, herman cain of pizza. although, his time didn't last as long as trump's. one poll had hillary clinton leading obama by nearly 20 points. carl cameron is in d.c. there are other points of interests. enlighten us. >> well, trump is 6 points behind carson. that makes them pretty close given the margin of error. rubio and cruz are tied for third. not good news for jeb bush. he is in single digits at 8. the rest of the entire field is at less than 3%. here is a key indicator. long time viability is often dependent on likability. favorability versus unfavorability. carson is near 60% with the net positive. that's twice as popular as marco rubio who is second. you see trump there, third. at the other end of the spectrum, jeb bush. he has a negative of 7 meaning more people see him unfavorably than favorably. today, trump unveiled his book crippled america. and losing the news conference to blast rubio and carson. >> look at rubio, very, very weak on illegal immigration. you look at ben, very weak on immigration and he wants to get rid of medicare. ben wants to ge

. >> in november of 2011 herman cain -- [laughter] was doing really well. newt gingrich was doing well. reporter: martin o'malley has its own challenges. yes to figure out ways to stand apart from his opponents while attracting voters. the debate. >> he has signaled he would go aggressively. the last debate. reporter: even though this is a nationally televised debate, when they take the stage they will be focusing most of their answers on voters in iowa. they will be the first to vote when they caucus on february 1. >> other people are just turning to tune in and start a attention to the race. here in iowa, this is been an ongoing process of getting another these people are, what thth stand for. reporter: viewers could have their own questions answered as they submit them via twitter which is a partner in the debate. cbs news, des moines, iowa. proud to partner with cbs to co-host tomorrow's debate. be a moderator. our live team coverage continues now with emmy victor with more on the final media scramble before saturday's big event. emmy: good afternoon. i

herman cain rose and fell very quickly. a lot longer than anybody thought. that's the first lesson. the second lesson is, but ben carson might still be sort of. let me explain this one. it's surprising how long he has been at or near the top of the polls. however, if you look deeper into his numbers, there was a poll out last week that had carson in first place, but found that 80%, 8 out of 10 of ben carson's voters said, my mind's not made up. i could still change my mind. that's a big contrast with donald trump. almost 60% of donald trump's voters say my mind's made up, he's the guy. so it's more fluid with ben carson. still a lot of potential for ben carson to fall off. he's been more durable that we thought, but 80% saying we're not sure about that. lesson number three, 2016 isn't 2000. remember the term shock and awe? at the start of this year, the people around jeb bush, that's how they were talking. they were going to raise a ton of money, roll out all sorts of endorsements. what they thought they would do is replica

at this point, herman cain also noted for its controversial statements was in the lead. numbers also have to be put into a national context. 25% of americans identify as republicans, 27% say they support trump. as nate silver pointed out, that represents 6% of the u.s. population. or the same number who believe the moon landings were fake. >> they were dancing in the street, and they were dancing on roof tops. >> reporter: that's not to say his candidacy isn't significant. the republican establishment hasn't firmly pushed back against trump. it's not as if the other candidates considered main stream are any less extreme in their attitudes. they are just less quotable. sheila macvicar, al jazeera, washington. >>> a mystery in san francisco where police are trying to explain this. more than a dozen baseballs chained to street poles. officials brought in the bomb squad to investigate one that looked like it could have been a bomb. >>> if you are one of the estimated 46 million drivers on the road this holiday weekend you may want to plan a detour. montana is on top of the l

ben carson, look, i've had plenty of people throw herman cain at me, rudy guiliani at me, hillary clintong each one of those polls, our poll at this point in time, had people that ended up not winning the nomination on top. should we just toss carson aside, or is this more real than we might think? >> well, first, i don't think any pollster would tell you we know that carson is going to do well in iowa, new hampshire, or anywhere else. what we know is, there's a lot of things people find attractive about him. you said he's the first candidate to 50% on a two-way ballot. a and that tells you he's putting together a broader coalition inside the republican party than any candidate has so far in 2015 and that needs to be noted and recognized. >> peter, you said something a little provocative. you said there's been this assumption that republicans are going to coalesce around supposedly somebody who looks to be a more plausible president. you said, 1964, and barry gold water. i might throw back at you, what about '76 and jimmy carter? aren't they two of the same examples? >> exactly the same e

. >> now they have home but it's in herman cain heaven but we would rather see them -- but it's in heaven. but we would rather see there. cutteled with them, dried them ow off. >> donations of food and supplies are coming in by the truck load. investigators say the fire was accidental. volunteers expect the surviving pets to leave the vet in about a move. if you would like hope to you can find the information up on our website. >>> hundreds of students taking part in a vigil and new tonight they were remembering a local young man killed last week in a terror attack. fox 25's malini basu is live at brandeis university in waltham. you spoke with people, malini, who were inspired by doing? >> elizabeth, just to show you how much people loved ezra schwartz yesterday thousands of people showed up to his funeral. today -- to honor him they haul to say the same thing connection with them. hundreds gathered for a candlelight individual nil honor of ezra schwartz. while studying abroad a day filled with so many other attacks. >>a our one source of light is the memory of those who we have lost. >>

this is second time that herman cain is appeared at a donald trump rally an joined him october 9th in. didn't endorse him then but appearing alongside him does show some level of support and says cain is bashing jeb bush and saying he was a pizza guy leading the polls. cain said at least i was once winning. jeb bush is doing nothing but losing throughout the entire campaign. the problem is him. so jeb bush really taking it from all skids right now and can't seem to win a battle. be it with donald trump or herman cain. >> all right. katy, thanks so much. chris christie is in new hampshire for a two-day swing to include events across the state. he just wrapped up a business roundtable luncheon in portsmouth and then next hour announcing he has the backing of coalition of law enforcement officials in new hampshire and events on the heels of a major endorsement of "the union leader." according to the paper, chris christie, quote, the one candidate with range and type of experience the nation desperately needs. joining me now, msnbc host and correspondent steve kornacki. now significant is

november of 2007 or 2011, which is a comparable point to today. 2011, we were at the beginning of herman cainia. we still had new gingrich, rick santorum, and it's not until february 28 that mitt romney takes command and holds it. , romneypoint in 2007 was ahead in iowa and then got eclipsed by mike huckabee who loses to the ultimate nominee. that i agree with you there are a lot of people who could in doubt as nominee. you think the cycle will turn out the way the cycle has turned out since president reagan, an establishment person is most likely the nominee. >> a somewhat conservative person can unite the party. i readily admit -- i could make a case on how donald trump could that win, butson i think it is unlikely. if you get down to it in reverse haseketical order, rubio, -- john kasich, ted cruz, chris christie -- john: reverse alphabetical is hard. mark: what is the calendar path for jeb bush to be the nominee? an early to do well in state. he will not do well and i will. mark: could he be the establishment leader in iowa? >> that is a social conservative evangelical state. that is why

john: it makes it sound like an amateur, it makes him sound like herman cain.ow he has an advisor on television claiming that they have better intelligence than the white house. it is going to hurt him with anybody who might seriously give any thought to whether he should be president of the united states. mark: he said somebody things about policy that are -- john: if you are try to tell me that this is another reason why this man does not have a leg to stand on in terms of policy, i agree. fact, if he said these things before, no one would have cared. as a front runner and getting close to iowa, this stuff more than any of the other flaps -- john: we agree. voters are going to start a focus in that matters. i like it when we agree. mark: chris christie has been on a run lately. it seems like he might have finally put the shadow of bridge gate behind him. now, bridge gate is back with a weird subplot. lawyers are trying to get their hands on documents from his office in a court filing yesterday. they also claim that christie's high school classmate who pleaded

if you look at this history, , we had people like michelle bachmann and herman cain all have their moment sun command it is fun and interesting. an individual who ultimately did not achieve but we hope. they came together and said we are serious minded individuals. also, trump is not a republican. if you look at the issues he cares about and i think she has espoused , he is clearly not republican, certainly not a conservative. and people that have began to gravitate toward him because he is a conservative , they just don't look at his record. this is a man who is wanted to continue funding for planned parenthood, supported single-payer healthcare, been a person who just went on the news this week and said george w. bush is the reason we had september 11 even though he had only been there for two months on that occurred. these are not orthodox positions in the republican party. for someone tofor someone to espouses positions and still maintain a sizable portion of the early polling suggests that we are not serious hit and once we get serious and sober after the summer of trump he will begi

in 2008, hillary clinton was up 26 points, rudy juliano in 2008 and then 2012 herman cain. my point is things will probably change. >> do you think marco rubio?>> yes, i would say that if we have to look at the mix right now, rubio is starting to make the move.'s content is good. it is true. he just has -- as i say, he has a lot to say. he is eloquent. i think he is starting to make a move from the pack. >> so brian is joining us on the phone with his analysis. thank you brian. >> you're welcome. take care. >> a valid point at the end. look back at other elections. who was winning at that time? >>> oakland mayor met with the nfl owners committee as she makes her best play to keep the raiders in the bay. that's being overshadowed by this news that disney ceo tom eiger is bidding for moving the raiders to l.a. >> this could be bad news with disney money behind this project. it could push the project over the top. games are sold out even in the years that the team is it when he. when it comes to the players themselves, they are focused on winning games. >>> coming up, calling

. >> we have to remember, in november of 2011, herman cain was doing really well. newt gingrigh was doing really well. morning, france past president says the islamic state is responsible for the attack, marking the worst carnage in the country since world war ii. nikole killion is there. nikole: french president francois hollande is calling the paris attacks an act of war and vowing to strike back after convening a special security manning this morning. he also declared a state of emergency as suicide bombers launched coordinated attacks on friday. all eight attackers are dead but the search continues for accomplices. france has deployed troops and is tightening its border. overnight, president obama spoke with him, expressing the united states' unwavering support. >> this is an attack not just on paris, not just on the people of all of humanity and the universal values that we share. nikole: the white house says president obama offered assistance with the french investigation, and both leaders vowed to work together to defeat the scourge of terrorism. alyx: react

but on the republican side, herman cain was leading. mitt romney was second. this time around it was carson, trump, rubio, cruz and jeb bush. donald trump was promoting his new book and trashing opponents and making claims about the cnn debate. this is what he said about my moderating the day after. he tweeted, anderson cooper did an excellent job of hosting the debate last night. tough, firm, but fair. >> hillary clinton was given all softballs not asked one tough question. >> keeping him honest, he is right. we did not ask one tough question but a lot more than that. here are a few examples. >> were against same-sex marriage and now for it. you supported his trade deal dozens of times and called it the gold standard and now you are against it. you are going to be testifying before congress about your e-mails. you haven't been able to put this issue behind you. you joked about it and called it a mistake. what does it that say about your ability to handle crises as president. how can you represent the views of middle class. did you underestimate the russians a

herman cain lasted for about two weeks in 2011 before he crashed back into on security.teresting because he takes a lot of heat for the poor performance in debates. there are times he can seem listless in public. he can seem -- you wonder where is the energy, where is the passion. that low-energy label from trump really has stuck. i will say, there have been some moments in this campaign, and there are plenty of moments more to the point in his political past, plenty of settings where he really does come to life. i'm thinking particularly of his announcement speech back this spring. he had a packed hall down there in florida and it was a jeb bush that if you watched these three debates that have happened so far and you compare that jeb bush to the jeb bush who spoke in that hall on his announcement day earlier this year, two completely different guys. the challenge for the bush campaign to find settings like that to showcase his talents. he does not do well it seems in a sort of off-the-cuff debate stage encounters where you are taking questions and trying to reformulate

herman cain plus ambien equals ben carson. there you go. [ laughter and applause ] if you take shaquille o'neal -- plus tinder, it equals love shack. yeah! >> steve: yeah. [ cheers and applause ] love shack little old place where we can get together jackman [ laughter ] >> jimmy: here's another one here, i never heard the cowbell in that song. >> steve: yeah. you didn't know there was one. >> jimmy: yeah, there is. >> steve: you thought that was a little extra soul. >> jimmy: you gotta go -- >> steve: love shack. huge cowbell. >> jimmy: you gotta go analog. analog. all tubes you'll hear that stuff. here's another one. larry david plus sticking your fingers in an electrical socket equals bernie sanders. >> steve: oh! >> jimmy: there ya go. [ laughter and applause ] simple math. here's one. everyone can learn from this. if you take a veggie wrap, add how a baby would say it, it equals fetty wap. [ laughter and applause ] >> steve: fetty wap. [ light laughter ] >> jimmy: you eating a veggie wrap. >> steve: fetty wap. >> jimmy: no

i think at this time last year, herman cain was in the lead. >> jimmy: oh, yeah. >> and then he had to go back to delivering the pizzas. >> jimmy: pizza, yeah. [ laughter ] >> so he kind of fell fast. next week after the fox business debate you'll see the polls start to take on a little more. because there are only five contenders right now. the others are 3% or less, and they're going to have to start to drop out soon. >> jimmy: i mean, cause it's got to cost money to do all this stuff. i mean -- >> right. >> jimmy: and it's tough to do, i would think, to do any debate, to be a moderator with >> it's very hard to do it because you forget their names. [ laughter ] and you are? >> jimmy: yeah, i forgot who you are. >> right. who? >> jimmy: this guy, he just wrote in today. and a lot of people are saying to, o that even donald trump and ben carson, that they won't get the nomination either way. >> well, i think they have a a shot at it. i mean, if they win the primaries, they're certainly gonna get the nomination. but it's going to be difficult because the republican party itself feels m

you know from covering campaigns for a long time, national polls had usedie giuliani ahead, herman cain in 2011, that doesn't matter. we feel great momentum in new hampshire and iowa. our numbers tripled in iowa and quadrupled in new hampshire. we're going to go to work and let people hear about the things we care about. >> i'm going to talk about new hampshire in a second, but you brought up trump. there's an armchair idea, analysis that you'll be the largest that is life bombastic guy, and trump has kind of filled that space and that has diminished you. is there some truth to that? that -- and then we'll know exactly what that was. i'll tell you what we do know is the american people are concerned about where this government is headed. they want a extrastrong, decisive president who will tell it like it is and mean what he says and. >> one sign of live is in new hampshire, where in a recent poll you're not in fifth place with 8%. as you say that's a big increase. is it fair to say it's new hampshire or bust for you? >> no, because you think we'll compete in iowa as well, chris. but i

hillary clinton led barack obama by 23 points and rudy giuliani was atop the republican field. 2011 herman cainhe polling leader in the gop. re rejoining us from washington charles crownhammer. which candidate tonight is the most desperate? >> that's izeasy. jeb bush. he's lost three debates in a row. his numbers have plummeted. his supporters are really panicking, they're very upset. some of them are ready to bolt. so he's got to show something. the best would be if he had this moment the kind of moment that cruz and rubio had last time around. but bush is not a moment type of guy. so i think his second best chance right here is to play to his strength. it is going to be about economics. it is going to be very different debate from the cnbc. they're going to try to make it substantive and this is where he's strong. so he may not be able to be theatrical which is what the primary race has been all about until now, the most theatrical showman leads. but i think if he can make a strong case for himself and come off just confident, somebody you can trust with the country, that would be a plus. he

national polls, longer than any of the so-called bad candidates in previous cycles, howard dean or herman cain or bachmann. he gets a quarter to a third of the republican vote steadily. and at this point you have to believe that's going to continue until someone starts spending some money to make a strong, sustained case against him. that's how a front runner gets taken down and so far none of his opponents have been able to do that. >> there are tiers. at the top, trump and carson, and cube owe and cruz, each with 11. cruz and rubio have 11%. jeb bush has 4 and the rest are in single digits. people said trump and carson didn't talk much. it didn't hurt them. >> you have to think about it this way, trump and carson survived the debate. they didn't have a stellar performance but they didn't bomb either. >> is it better if they really don't say that much? >> sometimes it's better to be quiet than say something and put your foot in your mouth, don't you think, don. what is fascinating about donald trump. we saw this yesterday when the first set of polls came out that ben carson came out. what did

that donald trump and ben carson say, look seven or eight years ago there was michele bachmann or herman cain and at some points they were doing well, but only for a few weeks if that. these two leaders have been doing well for # 100 days. >> it is a scenario that you cannot compare so. and donald trump sort of has the e ceiling, and he has been sitting there at 23% or so, and people have made up their minds. he has a core of support that is not going anywherement, but i do believe that dr. carson is coming under new scrutiny and we will see if he has more staying power than others, but until they start to fall away, you won't see anybody getting up to the numbers. >> and i am told that it is going to be focusing on the key economic features on a fox business debate and focus on finance and business as opposed to some orff of the more -- to some of the more personal stuff. >> we need to watch ted cruz. >> we will watch them all. >> and now, joining us live in 20 minutes, we will find out the assessment from milwaukee. >> and meanwhile, the crash of the airliner in egypt is causing a second lo

you can see right there, herman cain surging. newt gingrich, surging. a lot of uncertainty then. what's different about the uncertainty this time around? >> notice who you didn't point out in there. the eventual nominee was on top of the polls at that time. mitt romney was always in first or second. this time, you know, if you don't believe donald trump or ben carson is going to be the nominee, then who is? i think it's a lot more volatile than it was four years ago. i think the potential for a donald trump or a ben carson to be the nominee is higher today than it ever has been before. is it possible that the republican party suddenly decides to sort itself out a little bit and goes to a little more of a traditional way, and maybe it's jeb bush, maybe marco rubio, but i don't think so. i think when you look at the different things that have happened, craig, in kentucky this week, an outsider candidate, who republicans said was unelectable, guess what? they have a new republican governor. ten points. i think a lot of conservative to settle this time. i think it means we are in for

. >> reporter: at this point in the race in 2011 herman cain noted for his controversial statements wase lead and being prized by his outsider status but trumps numbers also have to be put in a national context, 25% of americans identify as republicans, of that number some 27% say they support trump. as noted u.s. pollster nate silver points out that is 6% of the u.s. population. the same number who believe the moon landings were fake. >> dancing in the streets and roofto rooftops. >> reporter: not to say it's not significant and the republican establishment has not pushed back to trump and if that is too early in the race it's not clear and the other candidates considered mainstream are any less extreme in attitudes to erase civil liberties and admin but they are less quotable. al jazeera, washington. >>> turkey's role in the fight against i.s.i.l. and russia getting attack shun but ankara could decide the conflicts and peaceful way forward and the pope tells the men how to keep itself from a violent future. ♪ the foreign ministers of russia and syria meeting in moscow today talking ho

you can no longer compare this flirtation with popularity in 2012 of michele bachmann or herman cain else. he's dominating this race, and what we're seeing post-paris is a real attraction to his message about our borders, securing our borders, securing who's coming in here, and really he's talk mostly about the fact that we're threatened by the policies of this administration. threatened by hillary clinton's policies and the quote, unquote amnesty policies of the other republicans in the race. lou: you know what strikes me, rich, it is, as a.b. says, all of this he is prescient whether it's kate steinle and illegal immigrants committing crimes in this country. the list goes on and on, but now the elites still will not yield in their absolute resistance to him, despite the fact that he's clearly smarter than they on foreign policy in most respects. rich, what do you think? >> i'm not sure i agree with all that, lou. lou: i'm sure you wouldn't. >> i haven't understood the rush in conventional wisdom to say he's going to be collapsed by the paris attacks. lou: did you notice that? >> tr

in october four years ago herman cain was the front-runner. years ago hillary clinton was beating this unknown senator from illinois by 25, 26 points. the world changes pretty quick, and it takes a concerted, consistent effort and that's what i'm doing. >> in the coming days governor bush will make several stops in florida. he considers his home state to be critical on the path to victory and he returns to the early voting states of south carolina and new hampshire. harris? >> molly, thank you. the fox news political insiders are here and you can join our conversation on facebook and twitter because i'll read your posts. pat caddel, former pollster for jimmy carter. look at that sunset behind you. gorgeous. >> former republican congressman for new york and doug shown, former pollster for bill clinton and fox news contributor, as well. i want to start out with this tweet. america first says neither jeb bush and marco rubio hold close to donald trump in their home state of florida. >> that piece was done in florida this weekend which is a worris

who knows that better than herman cain who four years ago at this time was the leading candidate and then he wasn't. herman, you talked a lot since then about what happened and what you let transpire and didn't fight back soon enough to address slippage. how would you advise some of these early phenoms like dr. carson comes to mind or marco rubio, donald trump certainly, about staying high in those polls. >> one of the things i would have done differently is that i would have had a crisis management team on standby because when you get hit with a crisis that comes out of nowhere, you need to have a team outside of your campaign to evaluate and assess how you handle it rather than people running your campaign. remember, running in a presidential campaign is like drinking from a fire hydrant. you want to try to make sure you don't get your lips blown off. have an outside crisis management team because when i say they, the opposition, they're going to continue to try to find something to throw the leading candidates off kilter. have that crisis management team. >> now, if you're marco ru

if you think back four years ago, at this time, in november of 2011, herman cain was beating mitt romneyhe republican nomination. that is obviously what ended up happening. it is a longer race than people think it is. promise you, these candidates feel like tomorrow is election day every day. liz: i know. >> but it's not. liz: the book battles, we have both trump out with a book yesterday. ben carson with a book out today. ben carson getting pretty significant crowds here. let me shift over to jeb bush. john, jeb bush is plummeting in the latest poll. he has fallen to 4%. he had 10% of the support in september. that reading but how much trouble is he really in? or is this still that opportunity for him to have the, you know, stick-to-itiveness to make it through the marathon? >> job obviously had difficulty with the past debate. it is early and i think he can turn things around. jeb's greatest attribute is his record. he has a proven conservative record. ultimately the reason there is so much angst and anxiety in the country the american people want someone capable of solving problems. j

ago, mitt romney was trading the lead in the republican presidential primary with 999 businessman herman cainformer speaker of the house, newt gingrich. and mr. romney, of course, would go on to win the republican party's nomination for president that year. but right around this time in that race, four years ago, "the boston globe" broke one of my all-time favorite stories about mitt romney. and it never became a huge issue in the election. i'm not sure why. i think if he were running this year, maybe it would be a bigger story because of hillary clinton's e-mail drama from her time as secretary of state. but at the time, in the race, basically four years ago exactly, "the boston globe" broke what i continue to believe is an astonishing story about mitt romney, even though it did sort of disappear after they broke it. this is the story, look at the headlines. before leaving office, romney staff wiped records. ex-governor's aides say they did nothing wrong. here's the story, just before mitt romney left the massachusetts' governor's office and first ran for president, 11 of his top aides purch