and there was a time in johnson's early career where he had a problem with his chief financial backer, herman brown, of brown and ruth and they, brown was a man nobody crossed, and johnson and him were on a collision course, and it was alice glass who devised the compromise. give herman the dam and let lyndon have the land, which really saved his career in that sense. c-span: did you write, i can't remember the details, that lady bird johnson and former president johnson would spend time at his mistress' home? >> guest: yes, they went down to, well it was a great estate in virginia, and they would both go down there, and on other occasions he would go down and leave lady bird at home. c-span: so you don't know whether or not she knew or not? >> guest: no, i do not. c-span: this is really off the subject, but warren g. harding, fdr, john f. kennedy, lyndon johnson, i must be leaving some, general eisenhower, all rumored, in some there was evidence, had mistresses -- what is it about presidents and mistresses? >> guest: or men. i don't know. but in johnson's life, alice glass played a role, you