both of these books give you a sense of herman kahn as a colorful individual. ce griggs is a fan of kahn and rather than than placing him in a cold war culture milieu and those who are personally sympathetic to kahn but less so to his ideas. kubrick set out to make a serious film about the nuclear threat until one day he came across herman kahn. now, herman kahn was -- if you know anything about kahn personally, he was a quick-witnessed neo-southern californian you could say born in new jersey and grew up for his first part of his life in the bronx. his native attire as you can see in the picture of herman kahn over here is the white short-sleeved shirt worn in the dead of winter and he had this ability to tell stories. and he very quickly captured the imagination of kubrick who had an idea of a much more dour, imposing figure, gruff which kahn was a lot of things but he was an absolutely endearing, charming individual. i'll go through kahn's personality in a bit and kahn by the time he met stanley kubrick was a major intellectual celebrity. he was a huge intell

and so this individual said you should talk with herman kahn. he picked up the phone in my presence, called herman, and i was hired on the spot. this conversation. but as often is the case with herman there was more to it than saw. at that time, herman had a request of the ford foundation for sizable amount of money. and eye gouge go to the ford foundation and maybe that helped. and one of the things that herman always was, was a master salesman and fundraiser. i heard once, i don't know if this is pocketful or not come but in those los angeles years before he went to rand he spent time as a salesman at a shoe store. i would not be surprised if that was the case. one of the truth are, he was very good at raising money. from the u.s. government. defense department, particular air force, particular others. there was sort of an army and 80 air force contract, you know, sort of on the ball. but it was a tendency to use some of the same materials in various contracts. people have pointed that out. and one day, this is a story i did not witness. it too