hermann miller trading 4.6 times. that makes them much cheaper than the average stock in the market the more expensive than knoll and hni. two other major office furniture players. some people see steelcase as the ultimate turn-around play for the office while the company's u.s. business is decelerating for years. steelcase has been investing in manufacturing capacity and new workers to turn things around. that's why the areas have been less than stellar. hermann miller, on the other hand, has been trying to expand its consumer business, which mostly sells its products through design within reach, or as i call design not within reach, because the sticker shock for their gorgeous furniture can make your eyes pop out they kind of stumbled initially, but when opening new stores, launching new products, so far the focus on innovation is paying off hermann miller increased by 16% in the most recent quarter they've gotten aggressive about putting technology into their products what can we learn from their quarters we got re