we are in london and talking with hermione lee author and president of the college of oxford. and another topic, does she fit into this virginia woolf and edith wharton mix? >> i'm not sure that biographers any more than fiction writers do things according to a plan. i have an interest in women writers and an american literature and and very interested in these strong independent of original women who don't get easily classified as feminist or, you know, but i actually think that they are different kind of novelists and what links them together is a passion that and rather stringent interest in language. they want to use the best possible language. >> what are you currently working on? >> i just finished a biography called penelope fitzgerald who became known in the state's for the blue flower that came out in the year 1996, i think maybe 1997 in america. she started very late. she was the daughter of a very distinguished and interesting family. her uncle was a convert to catholicism and her father was the editor of a british magazine and so she had a very clever professional