you know congresswoman jaime herrera beutler fairly well. tell us about her. >> she's one tough member. it's very smart for them to call her. she's very credible. she is a leader on health care issues. she had three kids while in congress, one with special needs. she was one of a dozen who opposed repealing obamacare. we were all heavily lobbied and she stayed the course and was one of our tough allies on that. i know this is a move of conscious on her part, as was her vote for impeachment. i'm confident with her being honest and that she will be a very effective witness and when you see the trump attorneys consistently attack women and minorities, attacking her as i imagine they will, isn't going to intimidate her and will be another bad move for republicans publicly, even if it doesn't change any of the senators' minds. >> barbara, how about that possibility that heidi heitkamp raised that lindsey graham will use his rights to try to get a new vote and convince those four republicans who voted for witnesses to change their mind? >> i don't

they want to hear from representative jaime herrera beutler. and as you alettered to herrera beutler says that the president said that antifa was breaching the building. and they say this is opening the door for a long process. >> there are a lot of depositions that need to be lapping. nancy pelosi's deposition needs to be taken. vice-president harris' deposition, absolutely needs to be taken, and not by zoom. these depositions should be done in person, in my office, in philadelphia. >> this could lead to a panoply of witnesses summoned by both sides. vice-president pence, perhaps, mccarthy, even g.o.p. alabama senator tommy tuberville. this could be a defacto review at the capitol. and one from speaker pelosi what she requested for the security posture on the 6th of january and the republicans are more than happy to stretch this out. they believe the democrats were stretching authority with the trial. this could be the shortest impeachment trial of a president, five days. last year's two weeks. president clinton's trial five weeks in 1999. the

republican representative jamie herrera-beutler explained her vote for impeachment in a town hall this week by quoting what kevin mccarthy said in that phone call. she said that she voted for impeachment because of what donald trump did during the insurrection. quote, you have to look at what he did during the insurrection to confirm where his mind was at, herrera-beutler told cnn. that line right there demonstrates to me that either he didn't care, which is impeachable, because you cannot allow an attack on your soil, or he wanted it to happen and was okay with it, which makes me so angry. i'm trying really hard not to say the f word. what donald trump did during the insurrection was the focus of the most important questions asked by the senators in the impeachment trial today, the most important question of the day was so good they asked it twice. and they had to ask it twice because donald trump's lawyers had no answer. the first time the question was asked by republican senators. the second time the very same question, word for word, was asked by democrats just to emphasize that th

but last night congressman jamie herrera-beutler app washingtonon state issued a statement confirming that in the middle of the insurrection when house minority leader kevin mccarthy called the president to beg for help president trump responded m and i quote well kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election then you are. needless to say, this is an additional critical piece of corroborating evidence further confirming the charges before you as well as the presidents willful dereliction of duty and desertion of duty as commander-in-chief of the united states, his state of mind and is further incitement of the insurrection on january 6. for that reason because this is the proper time to do so under the resolution the senate adopted to accept the rules for theen trial we would like the opportunity to subpoena congresswoman herrera-beutler regarding her committee patients with house leader kevin mccarthy and subpoena her contemporaneous notes that she made regarding what president trump told kevin mccarthy in the middle of the insurrection. we are prepared to proceed by

>> let's start with jaime herrera beutler. she issued her statement the day before. we tried mightily to get in touch with her. she could have come and done an interview. we couldn't get through to her. so we did seek permission to do it -- >> i don't mean to interrupt you. can i interrupt you real quick? >> please. >> her story was known for weeks. why did you not try to contact her until the last couple days? >> she issued her statement the day before, and we brought up the resolution right at the time that the resolutions for witnesses for called for according to the senate resolution. there's no other time we could have done it. that was the moment to do it. we won that vote. we were going to proceed to do it. hen the republicans stipulated to allow the evidence to come into the record. you asked about some other people who might have gotten up there and lied. we don't know what kevin mccarthy would have said. that was her record of what he was telling people. what he had told people was that he called trump to say, you've got to get us out of this hell, they're

herrera beutler saying mccarthy told her it was a shouting match. mccarthy pleading with trump to tell his supporters to stand down saying, quote, "you've got to hold them. you need to get on tv right now. you need to get on twitter. you need to call these people off." trump responding, "kevin, they're not my people." mccarthy then saying this, quote, "yes, they are. they just came through my windows and my staff is running for cover. yeah, they're your people. call them off." the former president telling mccarthy, quote, "well, i guess these people are just more angry about the election and upset than you are." [ crowd chanting "hang mike pence" ] >> reporter: that afternoon, mccarthy told abc news about his attempts to get through to trump. >> as i was stuck within my room, i called the president, explained to him what was going on. >> reporter: the house managers saying this account is so damning, herrera beutler must testify and share her account of that conversation. trump's defense team objecting strongly, claiming they were blindsided. >> i t

corporate funding is provided by... >> congresswoman jaime herrera beutler, welcome back to "firing line." >> it's good to be here. >> it has been just over four weeks since you, along with nine other house republicans, voted to impeach president trump. how do you feel about your vote now? >> you know, i feel like it was still the right vote. i don't have a moment of regret. that doesn't mean it has made everything easy and pleasant in my world. but i think if it's right, it was right, then it's right today. and i feel -- i feel like it was the decision that was most akin to the things i believe as a republican. and i think it was the right thing, really, for the country. >> did you vote to impeach because you believe president trump acted in violation of his oath of offic >> fundamentally, yes. and, you know, as a republican, we talk about the constitution beinso central to our platform. when you take your oath of office, you're swearing allegiance to protect and defend the nstitution of the united states. on january 6th, when we were counting the electoral votes, the constitution was u

we got the essence of what we wanted which was a statement of how this woman jamie herrera-beutler. i think what you are doing is making a lot out of it and dismissing the incredible evidence of habit, mayhem and what this president had done over at period of months to bring destruction to our democracy by talking about if you had two or three more witnesses what was going to happen. >> one thing i would add, remember there's a reason that the request for witnesses comes at the conclusion of the case. we had an opportunity to see the former president's counsel and decided whether we needed to provide additional witnesses and don't forget our case was filled with dozens of witnesses presented by way of videos and statements and recordings and last night we learned about this new information and begot that testimony in the record before the jury without any risk associated with it. that's important to remember produces a congresswoman who repeats a telephone call between kevin mccarthy and the former president within which kevin mccarthy is pleading for help saying help us we are unde

we needed more spines. >> so you're saying you would not have -- you would have called herrera beutler, had mcconnell not made that statement. is that what you're saying. >> what weighed on us was that the issue in our case with republican senators was not a lack of witnesses. it was a lack of, you know -- it was a lack of courage. they were looking for a loophole,off ramp and using the jurisdictional issue. when you look at the statements from the 43 who voted ng, they're not saying, well the democrats should have brought more witnesses. they're saying no matter what, we found this proceeding to be illegitimate. and so we weren't going to, you know, go for months in the courts, chasing subpoenas and witnesses if they're going -- they're never coming around to it anyway. >> do you feel like on the substance, though, of what congresswoman herrera beutler put forward, that ultimately there were many more of your republican colleagues who knew about that conversation with kevin mccarthy and about the trump call, and just chose not to speak up about it? >> well, actually, i gave a lot of c

her name jamie herrera beutler from washington state. she put out a statement that's somewhat unusual, all of you guys get thousands of statements, but the last line of this statement said if there's anyone who has more information about this phone call between kevin mccarthy and donald trump on the day of the riot, now is the time to come forward and actually say it. it was a very clear signal, it seems, both to other republicans in the house and public signal to the house impeachment manager there is more information out there that may be relevant to the case that they are making. so that is how we got here. jamie raskin, house lead manager, went down to the floor and said i want to call a witness. there's a lot of technical process involved in this. it's all pretty arcane. the vote they took was a vote on opening debate on witnesses. so they basically retreated to their offices and leaders are hovering to get a plan that everyone can get behind to figure out how to proceed. the republican side of this, and i know hallie has been doing

herrera beutler, who voted to impeach the former president, says mccarthy told her as he pleaded withormer president to call off the rioters. mr. trump responded, "well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are." >> we should close this case out today. >> reporter: the former president's legal team was laughed at after threatening to call hundreds of witnesses, including speaker nancy pelosi, and vice president harris. >> these deposition should be done in person, in my office, in philadelphia. laugh that's where they should be done. i don't know why you're laughing! >> reporter: but a deal to enter herrera beutler's statement into the record allowed the trial to move on to closing arguments and after five days of proceedings, the final vote. >> mr. cramer, not guilty. >> reporter: senator mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate, voted to acquit mr. trump, but then condemned him on the senate floor. as for senator burr, that surprise guilty vote, he said in a statement, "it was what the former president did and didn't do the day of the attac

i will now need the statement congresswoman jimmy herrera beutler february 12, 2021. in my january 12 statement in the articles of impeachment, i restaurants house minority leader kevin mccarthy related to me he had with president trump while the january 6 attack was ongoing. there are the details. when mccarthy finally reached the president january 6, asked him to publicly and forcefully call off the right, the president initially repeatedly falsehood that he was an antifa that breached. mccarthy refuted that and told the president that these were trump supporters. that's when, according to mccarthy, the president said well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are. since i publicly announced my decision to vote for impeachment, i've shared these details and countless conversations with constituents and colleagues and multiple times to the media and other public forums. i told it to the daily news january 17, i shared it with local county republicans, executive board members as well as other constituents who asked me to explain my vo

herrera beutler. >> i appreciate it. i know we'll be hearing from the board in different hearings, but everybody is going to be in a separate hearing. it might -- i don't know how changing this would be. it might be helpful to have everybody on the board at once in front of us. we can see how this goes. we're going to hear from the individuals. as this line unfolds, i have more of these questions. it might be nice to have them all sitting together. i don't know if we can do that. that's my thought. yield back. thank you, mr. chairman. >> you're welcome. ms. clarke? >> thank you, mr. chairman and ranking member herrera beutler. thank you to all the witnesses coming forward today to talk about, not just january 6th, but how we get the citadel of democracy safe and in the state of good repair. mr. blanton, i want to return to you and this question around these meetings in advance of january 6th. my understanding is from your testimony that you were not part of the meeting on january 3rd? you weren't involved until the meeti

. >> last night, congresswoman jaime herrera beutler of washington state issued a statement confirming in the middle of the insurrection when house minority leader kevin mccarthy called the president to beg for help, president trump responded, and i quote, well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are. >> the news of the phone call coming to light last night is the source of the new decision. democratic impeachment managers arguing they need to hear from congresswoman jaime herrera beutler, the exact details of the phone call between former president trump and house republican kevin mccarthy of bakersfield. now widely reported that mccarthy from inside the u.s. capitol during the siege shouted at former president trump to calm his supporters clearly to no avail. so people want to hear about the phone call. the defense team responding saying house impeachment managers had several days to complete the final case. >> after what happened here in this chamber yesterday, the house managers realize they did not investigate this case before bringing the impea

kevin mccarthy told congresswoman herrera beutler that he called donald trump trying to get donald trump to help save the capitol from the trump invaders and donald trump said this about the trump mob in the capitol. "well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are." on friday night, we speculated about the possibility of that evidence being included in the house managers' case the next day on saturday, possibly by calling witnesses and on saturday, the house managers tried to call congresswoman herrera beutler, but after negotiations, settled on accepting her public statement as the equivalent of an underoath affidavit. congressman david cicilline drove home donald trump's words in his final comments to the senate jury on saturday. >> in those critical moments we see president trump engaging in a dereliction of his duty by further inciting the mob in real time to target the vice president with knowledge that the insurrection was ongoing and that's, of course, included in the conduct charged in this article of impeachment. what does the president say in r

take a listen to congresswoman jaime herrera beutler. >> part of the problem there was chaos because each and every one of these officers boots on the ground commander or not had to make a decision with no information. there was no incoming help as far as they knew. they had no idea what you guys were doing. my hat is off to these brave men and women, they saved our lives and i'm frustrated that i'm not hearing this is how we're fixing that right now. that is what we're doing and that is what i expect. >> there were not a lot of answers today from these two officials, the acting chief of capitol police and the acting house sergeant at arms but it is shocking what congresswoman herrera beutler is saying in the lack of basic communication with members of congress that they were charged with protecting. >> the lack of communication is through the entire incident. you had individual officers making life or death decisions about where they would go and what they would be doing. how they would protect individual members. that is one of the reasons you saw during the impeachment hearing, th

the night before on friday evening, we found out that one of our colleagues, jaime herrera beutler had made a statement about a conversation she had with kevin mccarthy which went to the state of mind of the president during the time of the riot while it was ensuing. we felt that this was important to collaborate and to bolster the argument that we had already made. and so we used the opportunity for the motion to ask for witnesses, and then once that was granted, to ask for the statement of our colleague jaime herrera beutler. at the same time, defense counsel decided that they would make a motion for, you know, 100 witnesses at the time. we negotiated and were able to get her statement in the record not only as a written statement but to read it out loud to the senate. and we believe that just further bolstered the case that we had already made, and at that point we rested and did our closing argument. i know that so many people felt that, you know, maybe if we had more witnesses it could have changed more senators, but i think as you're seeing these statements come out of those 43 i

i will now need the statement congresswoman jimmy herrera beutler february 12, 2021. in my january 12 statement in the articles of impeachment, i restaurants house minority leader kevin mccarthy related to me he had with president trump while the january 6 attack was ongoing. there are the details. when mccarthy finally reached the president january 6, asked him to publicly and forcefully call off the right, the president initially repeatedly falsehood that he was an antifa that breached. mccarthy refuted that and told the president that these were trump supporters. that's when, according to mccarthy, the president said well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are. since i publicly announced my decision to vote for impeachment, i've shared these details and countless conversations with constituents and colleagues and multiple times to the media and other public forums. i told it to the daily news january 17, i shared it with local county republicans, executive board members as well as other constituents who asked me to explain my vo

. >> you and your fellow house impeachment managers wanted to call republican congresswoman herrera beutlerrom washington state as a witness to describe president trump's call where president trump effectively sided with the terrorists while the attack was going on. take a listen. this is what she told a town hall. >> he said, well, kevin, these aren't my people. these are antifa, and kevin responded and said, no, these are your people. you need to call off. and the president's response to kevin was chilling. he said, well, kevin, i guess they're just more upset about the election theft than you are. >> i mean, siding with the terrorists while they were attacking the capitol. ultimately democrats did neither of those things, and accepted the public statement she'd made. why did you back down? >> i think we didn't back down. i think what we did is we got what we wanted, which was her statement, which was what she said and it had put into the record and being able to say it on the record out loud so that the american public is aware witnesses in a senate hearing do not come and stand before t

bu last night, congresswoman jaime herrera beutler of washington state issued a statement confirminghat, in the middle of the insurrection, when house minority leader kevin mccarthy called the president to beg for help, president trump responded, and i quote, "well, kevin, i guess these people are morupset about the election than you are." >> sreenivasan: the request set off a furious response from mr. trump's attorneys. >> i'm going to need at least over 100 depositions, not just one. the real issue is incitement. they put into their case over 100 witnesses-- people-- who have been charged with crimes by the federal government. and each one of those, they said that mr. trump was a co-conspirator with. co-conspirator with. that's not true! but i have the right to defend that. >> the motion is agreed to by a vote of 55 to 45. >> sreenivasan: then, voting 55 to 45-- five republicans joined all 50 democrats-- the senate approved calling witnesses, throwing the proceedings into a confusing delay and then an hours-long recess. on return, there was a deal. there would be no witnesses. the

the prosecution and trump's legal team weighed whether to subpoena witnesses like miss herrera beutler agreement. her statement would be admitted to the record and the closing arguments were made. senators, we proved he betrayed his country. we proved he betrayed his constitution. his oath of office. the startling thing to recognizse now is that he is even betraying the mob. he told them he would march with them, and he didn't. they believed the president was right there with them somewhere in the crowd, fighting the fantasy conspiracy to steal the election and steal their country away from them. they thought they were one big team working together. he told them their great journey together wasjust beginning. and now there are hundreds of criminal prosecutions getting going. this has been perhaps the most unfair and flagrantly unconstitutional proceeding in the history of the united states senate. for the first time in history, congress has asserted the right to try and punish a former president who is a private citizen. nowhere in the constitution is the power enumerated or implied. c

the prosecution and trump's legal team weighed whether to subpoena witnesses like miss herrera beutlernt. her statement would be admitted to the record and the closing arguments were made. senators, we proved he betrayed his country. we proved he betrayed his constitution. we proved he betrayed his oath of office. the startling thing to recognizse now is that he is even betraying the mob. he told them he would march with them, and he didn't. they believed the president was right there with them somewhere in the crowd, fighting the fantasy conspiracy to steal the election and steal their country away from them. they thought they were one big team working together. he told them their great journey together was just beginning. and now there are hundreds of criminal prosecutions getting going. this has been perhaps the most unfair and flagrantly unconstitutional proceeding in the history of the united states senate. for the first time in history, congress has asserted the right to try and punish a former president who is a private citizen — nowhere in the constitution is the power enumerat

the two sides agreed to submit into the record a statement from republican congresswoman jaime herrera beutler which detailed a phone call from trump to house minority leader kevin mccarthy on january 6th where trump told mccarthy the rioters cared more about election fraud than mccarthy. the house managers decided to call her as a witness after her story came out on friday. >> no number of witnesses demonstrating that donald trump continued to incite the insir e insurrectionists would have convinced them. >> reporter: the prosecution arguing the evidence made it clear the riot was incited by the former president. >> he named the date. he named the time. and he brought them here. and now he must pay the price. >> reporter: and the trump defense warning the constitutional questions of convicting a former president were impossible to ignore. >> this is perhaps the most unfair and flagrantly unconstitutional proceeding in the history of the united states senate. procedures when the votes were cast, seven republicans joined democrats and voted to convict trump but fell short of the two-thirds majo

what i expect jamie raskin will say is we've spoken to congresswoman herrera beutler, she is availableday, we will do that deposition tomorrow, we will present to you monday what she said, and we'll be prepared to close. now, the wrinkle here is trump's defense lawyers should be able to get an equal number of witnesses as what the impeachment managers will ask for. i think the democrats will vote for an equal number. certainly the last time around when we were talking about witnesses, there was always this notion of an equal number. i think that's what's perceived as fair. there will have to be relevant witnesses as claire pointed out from trump's side. it's very dangerous for them to call a witness that they don't know what that witness is going to say. the managers know what congresswoman beutler is going to say for the most part because she already said it. if trump's lawyers just call nancy pelosi out of the blue, i mean, she will destroy them and hurt them, so that is a terrible strategy. so i don't know, you know, if they want to call some fbi agent and talk about what threats th

congresswoman jamie herrera beutler who revealed president trump's reluctance to call off the rioters to her account of a call between president trump and kevin mccarthy. they are sadly the exceptions. joining me is republican larry hogan of maryland. the senate fell short for conviction. seven senate republicans did break with their party, voted to convict former president trump. would you have voted to convict and what does the final vote count say about the gop? >> well, first of all, i think there were a lot more people who didn't have the courage to vote that way who may have been convinced and moved by the argument, but you're right, there weren't enough people willing to stand up. there were ten members of the house and seven members of the senate who did. i'm proud of them, because sometimes it's not -- it's not easy to go against your party and the base of your party and the former president and -- but it's hard to do the right thing sometimes, but i think -- i'm proud of those folks who did take that decision and put the country ahead of party or personal affection or whatev

the house impeachment manager jamie raskin asked to subpoena republicanjaime herrera beutler and heres, believing there may be new evidence about a phone call between donald trump and house republican leader kevin mccarthy, while the capitol was under attack. here's what mr raskin had to say. last night, congresswoman jaime herrera last night, congresswomanjaime herrera beutler of washington state issued a statement confirming that, in the middle of the insurrection, when house minority leader kevin mccarthy called the president to beg for help, president trump responded, and i quote, well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about these people are more upset about the election than you are. needless to say, this is an additional, critical piece of corroborating evidence, further confirming the charges before you, as well as the president's wilful dereliction of duty and desertion of duty, as commander in chief of the united states, his state of mind, and his further incitement of the insurrection on january six. further incitement of the insurrection onjanuary six. for that r

of getting the president's counsel to agree that the statement of our colleague, congresswoman herrera beutlerad into the evidentiary record, and obviously the american people were able to hear that statement as well. i also think it's important, rachel, to consider the balancing of the equities, which was fairly complex that obviously the team had to consider. you know, i've been on your program before to discuss, as you'll recall, the investigations that you covered extensively of the president. for example, during the mueller investigation, and the fact that the subpoenas that were issued by the judiciary committee on which i serve are still being litigated to this day. the subpoena for don mcgahn's testimony, for example, is still a live matter. so it was fairly clear to us that any witnesses that might have some prohibitive evidence to share could very well end up tying the impeachment in litigation for months, perhaps years, as had been the case, as you know, in prior investigations that had been conducted by the congress. so i thought, as delegate plaskett articulated, that at the end o

they were frustrated, from tim ryan to jaime herrera beutler and focused in two areas that seemed clearly. the intelligence and the f-- th failures of intelligence and what was done before january 6th and then the failures operational or otherwise on the day. what did you take from this so far? >> well, i have to start, kate, by saying it reminds me as experience of testifying on the house side. it is a more aggressive form of questioning. the members are kind of -- they don't really hold back. you know right away when they're not happy with what they're hearing and i think that is pretty evident from the hearing the testimony that we've heard so far. i think you hit on the two major issues that will continue to dominate this process. on the intelligence side it is not only what intelligence did we have but what conclusions did we base on that intelligence and of course how was it communicated and how did it effect the preparation and the operational planning that the capitol police department put into their position for january 6th. obviously a lot of missteps along that process. frustra

it's not like herrera beutler was on the call herself. we need to look at who got what they wanted out of this situation. i think democrats really wanted to damage the president further, to create further splits within the republican party. i think they got what they wanted. mitch mcconnell and a number of conservatives both in office but also in the media landscape, i think felt uncomfortable with what they saw. they created or showed certain riffs that exist within the republican party. but i also think that donald trump kind of got what he wanted out of this which was that clearly showing the majority of the party still stands with him, that the majority of the party's voters still stand with him and given the kind of motivation going forward, he remains the 800-pound gorilla within the republican party. the media also got what they wanted out of this which is one more bite at the apple of donald trump. we're not going to give up on him yet. we need those ratings. we need to be able to talk about him. we need him to come out of this as

herrera beutler. >> acting sergeant at arms, if we could scale back, you know, when the communications i'm not necessarily talking about like the tweets and the texts that came to members while this is happening, what you and i discussed on the phone and what i think is really important is i was standing next to officers both sergeant at arms and capitol police officers as the insurrection was happening on the house floor, getting to the house floor. it was very clear that their headpieces, like the communication pieces, they were getting no actual real communication. they were getting no leadership, getting no direction. there was no coordination. and you could see the fear in their eyes. like they literally, the brave men and women who were just kind of left out on their own to defend did the they could with what they had. there is a video on youtube where the woman who was shot, there is a time with different armed forces and different forces coming in at different angles and it was clear that the person who shot didn't know that there was a tactical team coming up the stairs and th

i give a lot of credit to representative herrera-beutler. coming forward with that information that revealed the state of mind of this president when he's being called desperate calls to help, to send troops, to send help, to protect the capitol and to protect the joint session of congress, and his own vice president, what was his state of mind? he was more concerned about his so-called big lie and the rigged election. i give her a lot of credit. we didn't need more witnesses. america witnessed this. we were in room full of witnesses and victims. we needed no more witnesses but what we were able to secure was a stipulation by the former president's lawyers that what she had said was true, it was entered into the record, further witness of the high crime and insurrection incited by the president. >> minutes later, the president's lawyer denied that on the floor of the senate. >> well, the president's lawyers really struggled, i think the world witnessd that. they struggled with their own credibility. they absolutely struggled with legal argum

possibly by calling witnesses and on saturday the house managers tried to call congresswoman herrera beutler but after negotiations settled on accepting her public statement as the equivalent of an under-oath affidavit. congressman david cicilline drove home donald trump's words in his final comments to the senate jury on saturday. >> in those critical moments we see president trump engaging in a dereliction of his duty by further inciting the mob in real time to target the vice president with knowledge that the insurrection was ongoing and that's, of course, included in the conduct charged in this article of impeachment. what does the president say in response? not i'll send people right away, i didn't realize you were in danger. he says, well, kevin, and i quote, i quote, "well, kevin, i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are." "i guess these people are more upset about the election than you are." the president just as he conveyed in that tweet at 6:01 was essentially saying, you got what you deserve. >> leading off our discussion tonight is house impeachment man

there are votes to certainly get congresswoman herrera beutler there. chris christie was right. they melssed up yet. it wasn't a great presentation. continuing to threaten people isn't a good position because you're basically threatening people who are jurors. that's not a good place to be as a defense attorney threatening a juror, which team trump has been doing all along in the house impeachment vote going after liz cheney and adam kinzinger. one of the things when mitt romney was harassed where he was flying back for january 6th, donald trump referenced that, you know, whether it was at the rally or somewhere like hey, that wasn't fun for him. he revelled, it clear from the record the president revelled in his political opponents or those who are just standing up against the mob. he revels in them getting attacked. that's why i think it so important to have this conv conviction, to stop that bullying. you got to stand up to a bully. that's what, you know, a lot of -- not a lot but these republicans who stood up are standing up against the bully and giving a good model to the

reporter: that part of a statement house managers read aloud from republican congresswoman jamie herrera-beutler who says she was briefed on the call. the former president's defense dismissing the impeachment as political. >> if you don't impeachment him he might be elected again. >> reporter: house leaders pleading to disregard politics. >> the country in the world know who donald trump is. this trial is about who we are. >> reporter: the senate today writing the last chapter in the presidency of donald trump. >> in a written statement just after the vote, former president trump said the make america great again movement has only just begun, teasing that he'll have more to share in the months ahead. terry, back to you. >> alice, thanks very much. house speaker nancy pelosi reacting to today's vote by really going after senate republicans. >> but what we saw in that senate today was a cowardly group of republicans who apparently have no options because they were afraid to defend their job, respect the institution in which they serve. >> she also took aim at senate minority leader mitch mcconnell

the prosecution and trump's legal team weighed whether to subpoena witnesses like miss herrera beutler. her statement would be admitted to the record and the closing arguments were made. senators, we proved he betrayed his country. we proved he betrayed his constitution. his oath of office. the startling thing to recognizse now is that he is even betraying the mob. he told them he would march with them, and he didn't. they believed the president was right there with them somewhere in the crowd, fighting the fantasy conspiracy to steal the election and steal their country away from them. they thought they were one big team working together. he told them their greatjourney together was just beginning. and now there are hundreds of criminal prosecutions getting going. this has been perhaps the most unfair and flagrantly unconstitutional proceeding in the history of the united states senate. for the first time in history, congress has asserted the right to try and punish a former president who is a private citizen, nowhere in the constitution is the power enumerated or implied. congress ha

republican congresswoman jaime herrera beutler saying that she saw. >> there was no coordination. you could see the fear in their eyes. >> reporter: tuesday confusion about when the national guard was called in. >> who did you ask for assistance at 1:09? >> it was from mr. irving in the company of mr. stenger as well. >> mr. irving, why would you not remember that? >> senator, i have no recollection of a conversation with chief sund at that time. i was on the floor during the electoral college session. >> reporter: today the acting chief showing up with evidence -- the phone logs saying they did call for help. >> on january 6th, chief sund first reached out for national guard support to the house sergeant at arms at 12:58 p.m. >> reporter: tonight we're learning 800 insurrectionists made it inside the capitol that day. other lawmakers insisting police had the intelligence but failed to act. but the acting chief saying today there was no intelligence indicating an attack of this size and scale. >> we acknowledge that there are a lot of things that should have been done differently.

raskin asked to hear from herrera beutler.ded to be done. it's pretty important to point out this isn't an actual court of law. all of these senators read the newspaper. they probably go on social media. they watch cable news. if they don't their staffers do. they were aware of what this report was, whether or not it was entered into the record. and what it did is it kind of pushed this unforced error forward where progressives were upset because raskin seemed like he backed down. other folks were just wondering why we went through this several hours-long period where we didn't know what was going on. and what i'm seeing tonight and i imagine this is going to keep playing out-s our sources on the democratic house side and then the democratic senate side sort of pointing fingers at how we got to this place where democrats ultimately accepted just putting her statement on the record as opposed to actually going down the rabbit hole with witnesses. i do think the thing that was made really clear, though, is that while i can under

all of it according to congresswoman jamie herrera beutler. mccarthy pleading with trump to tell his supporters to stand down. the former president telling mccarthy, "well, i guess these people are just more angry about the election and upset than you are." but as trump moves forward, h hh will be doing it without the support of senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. though he voted to acquit, he had this warning. >> he didn't get away with anything yet. yet. >> we heard senator mcconnell say that over the weekend, rachel. we know there's a potential criminal investigation in georgia. you've reported on this, looking into those phone calls with election officials there, including that call to the georgia secretary of state when the former president said, i just want to find those 11,780 votes. so, rachel, what did mcconnell mean by saying "yet?" >> reporter: well, georgia is still looking into that, launching that criminal investigation. donald trump still denying any wrongdoing here, david, and tonight, he is plotting out his next steps. he

we got the essence of what we wanted when i was the statement of congresswoman jaime herrera beutler. the defense got nothing. i think you're making a lot out of and dismissing the incredible evidence of havoc, mayhem and what this president had done over a period of months to bring destruction to our democracy by talking about if you had two or three more witnesses what was going to happen. >> one thing i would add to it is remember there's a reason that the request for witnesses comes at the conclusion of the case. we had an opportunity to see the former president's counsel and decide whether we needed to provide additional witnesses. our case was filled with dozens of witnesses presented by way of video and statements and recordings. it was only last night we learned about this new information and we got the best of both worlds. we got that testimony in the record before the jury without any risk associated with it. and that's important to remember. this is a congresswoman who repeats a telephone call between kevin mccarthy and the former president of the united states in which kev

herrera-beutler. just quickly as a quick follow-up before we go further, in line with what ms. herrera-beutler was just saying, can you give us an explanation about the preparation for january 6th? and was there any special training for the officers to have them prepared for this? >> yes, sir. so, a couple points of clarification. explaining the incident command structure was just basically to detail what the system was supposed to do. the executive team here has taken a number of proactive steps to ensure that incident command protocols are adhered to in the future as it relates to the command staff that are giving directions in the command center. that was forthcoming. i myself directed the capitol lockdown on the day in question. with that said, there are many more improvements to be made. as it relates to the vote of no confidence, the numbers there are not totally accurate. 36% of our sworn population, less than half of available officers that could have voted said that they vote no confidence for the capitol police leadership. with that being said, i think that one vote i

testimony of republicanjaime testimony of republican jaime herrera testimony of republicanjaime herrera beutlerf 55—45. mr president, i suggest the absence of a quorum — a quorum. let'sjust take you a quorum. let's just take you back life a quorum. — let's just take you back life to the scene of the floor of the senate where there is still some debate going on and we are not sure about what it is because there was a vote sometime ago and it was 55—45 which we believe was in favour of allowing a witness, a debate on a witness to be called. and there was always the chance of house impeachment manager vote to call witnesses although few in the senate, democrats included, were interested in continuing this trial passed this weekend, and it was anticipated that at the final closing arguments we would have them now. and a vote if not today then sunday but that has certainly been delayed. and this is after reports yesterday of an angry frankel between donald trump and house minority leader kevin mccarthy as the january the 6th rights were unfolding. this evidence came to light in yesterday's proceedin

. >> do you want to hear from witnesses now, particularly congresswoman jaime herrera beutler?that this statement from her is very much in line with the kind of reaction that trump had because we know that he had to have known that the riot was going on because we senators were taken to a safe place. we didn't even see the video until, i don't know, about an hour later. but when we saw what was going on, a lot of us were getting texts. i got texts from people in hawaii who were watching what was going on and asking whether i was okay. the president had to have known. of course we know that senator sub tuberville told them that the vice president had been taken to a safe place. the president knows all this and does absolutely nothing. here's a man who knows how to use the word stop, stop the count, stop the vote, stop the steal and yet he doesn't tell the rioters stop the rioting right now. kevin mccarty calls and begs him and he still doesn't stop it because, one, he expected it; two, he liked it. this is what he wanted. these people rioting for him. >> i mean, if anybody think

>> senators, donald john trump by his counsel is prepared to stipulate that if representative herrera-beutler were to testify under oath as part of these proceedings her testimony would be consistent with the statement she issued on february 12, 2021 and the former president's counsel is agreeable to the admission of that public statement into evidence at this time. >> thank you mr. castor. mr. raskin.. mr. president, managers are prepared to enter into the agreement. i will now read the statement. this is the statement from raskin february 12, 2020. in my january statement in support of the articles of impeachment i've referenced the conversation house minority leader kevin mccarty relayed to me that he had with president trump while the january 6 attack was a ongoing. here are the details. when mccarthy finally reached the president on january 6 and asked them to publicly and forcefully call off to riots the president repeated the false so that it was antifa that had reached the capitol. mccarthy refuted that and told the president that these were trump supporter's. that is one according to

i saw today, brianna, adam kinzinger of illinois sent out a fundraising appeal for jaime herrera beutlerger coming to the aid of donating his own pac money and urging people to vote for beutler. they understand they went against the grain of their party. they may be facing very tough primaries upcoming. >> indeed. david, thank you very much for taking us through that. nearly a month after leaving the white house and facing his second impeachment trial, donald trump is facing legal probes at the state and federal level. so why do republicans continue with their loyalty to him. my next guest wrote the book "death by politics" and he's an opinion writer at the "new york times." thank you for being with us. your latest op-ed is titled "why are republicans still loyal to a mar-a-lago exile?" answer your question for us. why are they? >> the short answer is old habits die hard, and the republican party has committed themselves to donald trump for four years, and they're finding it very hard to break. in part, i would say, because the base of the party has been so radicalized. it's extreme, and