those roles are tremendous for important and often understated herriot. >> on the go? "after words" is available via podcast through itunes and xml. visit booktv.org and podcast on the upper left side of the page. >> host: .or jain have done much research in this field of the culture and the society around cancer care in america. the industries, the patientspatience, the consumers, the profiteers. are their market place predators when it comes to cancer and how much of an industry is cancer care? >> guest: i mean i think part of what i'm trying to point out in the look is that there there's a lot of ill happening in cancer culture and it's not necessarily intended. so i think for example with pharmaceuticals, their aim is not to cure cancer. their aim is to make money so we can't blame them for trying to make money even at the expense of perhaps not having the best cancer research. similarly something like vitamin sup laments for example, the fda doesn't have control over these things and often people with cancer, people with terminal diseases will do anything they can

know, i've gone from 1947, the very beginning of how pakistan and the united states became allies herriot the thing that has always concerned me is why is this relationship dysfunctional, and why hasn't pakistan benefited from an alliance in the united states like others in the postsecondary war? i've been to south korea and japan that was devastated in the second world war but then it became an american ally after the second world war and look at where japan is economically. south korea has prospered. all east asian countries have done it. why didn't pakistan do well economically? what did we do wrong blacks i discovered there were productive pakistani leaders that have delusions about what they could get from the united states and american leaders were also delusional about what to expect from pakistan and hence the title of the book, "magnificent delusions." >> host: let's talk more about those american delusions because you talked earlier in your book about george kennan, that he was somebody that maybe didn't have such delusions. that he couldn't see the value of pakistan to the unit