hersch made it his story >>> those who were dubious about seem our herb's story, and -- seymour hersch'sry, and there are many, say a story like that is too big to keep secret. that argument has a self-defeating access to it. had hersh grand our interview request, which he didn't, he would have replied something along the lines it isn't a secret any more >>> on the download viewers on the ongoing coverage of the osama bin laden story. >> seymour hersch is certainly no stranger to directing criticism at the media. i think the latest investigation really is a backhanded attack on the reporting. and the easiest means of answering back to that is to emphasise the shortcomings of his methods and ultimately dismiss the investigation as clap-chat. >> tonight. >> we're going to the bottom of the sea. >> deep submergence vehicles. >> three zero three six. >> ocean experts have made some miraculous discoveries. >> octopus everywhere. >> but are the most important discoveries yet to come. >> implications for energy and also for climate change. >> techknow's team of experts show you how the miracles

hersch told you this, and you truth. what you told me is what i heard from former colleagues who have been on a fact-finding mission. is the version of osama bin laden's killing given by the u.s. government a lie? it's not only hersch's report. there were other studies. a former colleague of mine, brigadier general wrote a book and there were a couple of other reports. all talk about pakistan cooperating. off the operation was over, president obama thanked pakistan for its cooperation. that vanished after it. it's one part of it, that so many are supportive of that. >> let me ask you this. i'm glad you are here discussing this. a wall street journal blog made reference to an interview you this with my colleague at al jazeera initial, and he said: how good are your sources. >> no, i do not have many sources. i did it believing that's how the game should be made. obama thinking. number two, i don't believe despite stealth helicopters don't believe any government will take that big a risk to fly the helicopters deep in the

seymour hersch is a long-time journalist. he is associated with the new yorker and writes in a piece published in the london review of books that osama bin laden was not hiding, he was a intelligence. senior pakistani leaders knew of the u.s. raid in advance, according to hersch, and cleared pakistani air space for u.s. navy seal helicopters to fly in and conduct their mission unhindered. when the c.i.a. found out about osama bin laden's whereabouts through a paid informant, not from one of osama bin laden's court yours. these and other allegations that hersch makes contradict the line that's been put out by the obama administration, and by pakistani officials. hersch is a legendary journalist, covering the mili massacre of vietnamese citizens, and the abuse of iraqi prisoners at abu ghraib. the white house and some noticeable delegates in the world denounced hersch's story calling it incredible and thinly sourced. since 9/11, the u.s. funnelled $20 billion in direct aid to pakistan. to help it fight al qaeda and the taliban

hersch also contends, among other things, the u.s. told the pakistanis about the raid ahead of time. hersch calls the contention leaders were not informed of the raid beforehand, quote, the most blatant lie. his reporting has met with strong pushback from washington. the pentagon calling his piece largely fabrication and saying there are too many inaccuracies to list each one. joining me now is investigative reporter, seymour hersch. mr. hersch, this piece is constructed largely around -- not exclusively, but largely around a single unnamed source. he's cited about 55 times in the piece. and the big question everyone has had after this piece landed last night is can you hang what you have hung on him on this one guy who we have no way of verifying whether he knew what he says he knew. >> well, of course, if i did, he would do what he had done, and that is prosecute him. leaving that aside, i think it's more complicated than that. in the article, i made clear that, look, in my business, somebody comes and he tells you something. you th

joining me now is investigative reporter, seymour hersch. all right. mr. hersch, this piece is constructed largely around -- not exclusively, but largely around a single unnamed source. he's cited about 55 times in the piece. and the big question everyone has had after this piece landed last night is can you hang what you have hung on him on this one guy who we have no way of verifying whether he knew what he says he knew? >> well, of course, if i did, he osama would probably do what he's done, people from the inside have gone public, that is prosecute him. leaving that aside, i think it's more complicated than that. in the article, i made clear that, look, in my business, somebody comes and he tells you something. you then verify with others. if somebody happens to be retired, it's much of easier to quote somebody like that than somebody who is still inside. i was able to verify the story from people who are basically inside the game, and, of course, that helped a lot. i'm not going to just go with one source. i've been around too long to do that. but, yo

in an article published late sound in "the london review of books" well-known journalist seymour hersch alleges the white house concocted a narrative about the 2007 navy seal raid that killed osama bin laden in pakistan. al jazeera spoke with hersch, and he laid out what he claims is the truth behind osama bin laden's death. >> president obama did authorise the raid. the seals did it. the rest is hokum. he did do that, the rest of d... ..we did work with the pakistanis, we got d.n.a. the seals went in uncontested. remember two helicopters, the second was redundancy, they needed one one do no in -- one to go in and do it, the second to watch >>> he was tracked to his complex >>> after four months of testimony in the boston marathon the first sign of remorse from dzhokhar tsarnaev emerged. a popular nun asked jurors to spare dzhokhar tsarnaev's life saying he was genuinely sorry. john terrett joins us with more. >> yes, more of the popular catholic nun in a second. first of all the court has a day's recess tomorrow wednesday, closing arguments begin in the second phase of the trial, the s

seymour hersch said osama bin laden was cap toured and used as leverage against al qaeda. if pakistan agreed to return to the us and give him up for aid. >>> cuba announced an oil expiration deal with france during an historic trip to havana. he's the first western leader to visit the country. he and his counterpart called on the u.s. to lift the trade embargo. lucia newman reports. >> reporter: >>> untying the ideological knot. 12 years since the european union froze ties with communist cuba, in response to dissident. the french president is here to declare bygones be bygones. >> translation: this visit is taking place in a context in which, at last, it's possible for cuba to have necessary conditions to interact with the rest of the world. france has been in favour of the lifting the embargo that hinders cuba. speaking at the university, francis hollande made it clear that france wants to take a leadership role. it has made latin america a foreign policy priority. it's not just political. france and holland are key to possession themselves, lifting an embargo to cuba. am

the man behind it seymour hersch investigative reporter says he said the raid of osama bin laden's compoundis saying isn't true and we will have the famous investigative reporter on. he will tell us what he heard and we will test it. i have to tell you, it is shaking a lot of trees this morning of people who have been reporting on this and thought they understood it before. it is one report. we'll take it on. >> with decades of experience in shaking things up. chris cuomo, thank you. >>> new developments this morning in the death of freddie gray. there are growing calls for a new prosecutor in the case. we'll tell you about it ahead. i don't want to live with the uncertainties of hep c. or wonder whether i should seek treatment. i am ready. because today there's harvoni. a revolutionary treatment for the most common type of chronic hepatitis c. harvoni is proven to cure up to 99% of patients who've had no prior treatment. it's the one and only cure that's one pill once a day for 12 weeks. certain patients can be cured with just 8 weeks of harvoni. with harvoni, there's no interferon and the

seymour hersch about the mailai massacre. and all those factors led to the church committee being founded and going ahead and doing the most comprehensive investigation ever. and i want to join in something bob and mika said. you have to recognize that some secrets are legitimate. and the church committee succeeded in part because we recognized that some secrets are legitimate. the government could argue that it would reveal something that shouldn't be revealed. and the parallel house committee, which could have potentially done great good, because it was focusing on the quality of intelligence coming out, but it foundered and ultimately failed because it didn't accept that there are some secrets that are legitimate. >> fritz, a number of things were obviously unearthed by the church committee and the leaks. can you highlight some of them? >> i'm give three. one, martin luther king, we uncovered the document sent to him by the fbi after bugs, which, by the way, they were able to put bugs without even the approval of the attor

cy hersch who publish those photos said you actually have not seen the worst of them yet. so now let talk about -- let's talk about what mr. negroponte did not talk about, the word "torture." there is no doubt porcher played a major role in the push for invading iraq. while the senate report and other critics say torture produced false information that could have been one of the program's goals, in 2009 mcclatchy reported the bush administration repli --applied pressure to use methods to find evidence of cooperation between al qaeda and saddam hussein's regime. a former u.s. intelligence official said there was constant pressure on the intelligence agencies and the interrogators to do whatever it took to get the information out of the detainees and especially the high-die once they had, -- high- value ones they had. they were told to push harder. the iraq torture connection gives only bear mention to the senate report from the executive summary that was released in december. in a footnote, the report cites the case of a person, after u.s. forces sent him to egypt he made t

so everything seymour her shall said is wrong and he -- hersch said is wrong and he said he got this information from a senior intelligence official who was close to the operation. whoever that source was was not in any room i was in. >> tonight on the communicators, members of congress on n.s.a. collection of phone records, privacy and net neutrality. >> section 215 authorizes the metadata collection, you know, the bulk collection authorizes because last week we found out that the second district federal court agrees with justin amash and i that this patriot act never authorizes these programs, that these programs are illegal, but the n.s.a. will tell you these programs were authorized by section 215 and then the fisa court, you know, proceeded to write a warrant that covered every american citizen. i think our founding fathers would be appalled. >> i think our policy is far from being up to date. we have a policy that's actually, you know woefully out of date. we have copyright policy from 1976. a lot has changed since 1976. we have the electronic communications privacy act, which

put on a great deal of time on the initial draft of this legislation including amber coddle bruce hersche, and lisa pearlman. i want to thank my colleagues on the finance committee whose input and support has been instrumental in both drafting and as well as helping it move forward. i want to thank the finance committee's ranking member and the coauthor of this current legislation, senator ron wyden. his commitment to his principles and constituents has been has been micial. and although -- been admirable. and although it's taken a long time to get to this point his efforts have improved the substance of the bill and helped broaden its support. i very much appreciate senator wyden's efforts from drafting the bill, getting it through the committee and here on the floor. there are other senators who played key roles in getting us to where we are. i want to thank our distinguished majority leader and the majority whip. i also want to thank senators carper and murray. obviously every senator who's voted and worked to get us to this point deserves thanks. i'll thank you all individually as the