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heisman trophy winner herschel walker.tart with the news on the ground, shelby. >> there is definitely a lot of people here. we've seen productive conversations. there's a conversation cafe but that's not the whole story. we see as the evening gets on in particular there's a lot of tensions. just last night things changed in the blink of an eye. at first there was a group dancing and hanging out as one guy got f on the microphone and claimed that a local business owner was actually holding somebody hostage at gunpoint and this mob came for the local business, broke down the fence, interrogated the business owners for about a half an hour. >> sean: where is the mayor? where's the governor? >> i'm not sure. she's been on the ground during the day visiting chop. i know that, and talking to, i guess, the new residents in the area. but it doesn't seem like this is something that's going to let up anytime soon. >> sean: herschel, you've known the president a long time. the president has been begging new york, beggingan illinois,