blume: well, john hersey definitely believed that. people don't realize how perilous the nuclear landscape is right now. the bulletin of the atomic scientists, whichas its famous doomsday clock, has now set it closer to midnight, e., nuclear apocalypse, than it has ever been since its advent in the late 1940s. one of the things that john hersey was especially worried about by the time the cold war accelerated again in the 1980s oswas that the memory of hma was fading. and if you didn't have the memory as a deterrent anymore, ntwas it going to be as po deterrent? and i think that remains a really crucial question today. jeffrey: for the "pbs newshour," i'm jeffrey brown. ♪ judy: and now we turn to the weekly pitical analysis of shields and brooks. that's syndicated columnist mark shields and new york times comnist david brooks.o he both of you. so, david, let's start by looking at what hasn't happened between the white house and republicans and the democratin the congress on what kind of, if any, relie americans in this pandemic. i gue

was john hersey who made his way to hiroshima and wrote the first story for american audiences in the new yorker of what really happened. so i would like to ask you all to share your thoughts on that would youd, kai, like to start us off? i am you to. -- muted. that is an interesting question, the role of the early journalists in covering this, the thing i am struck by always is that if you look at the record of the early critics of the bomb, they were actually all republicans and right-wingers. review, in thel 1950's, was a critic. herbert hoover was a critic of the decision, saying it was unnecessary. and it was ironically left wingers and left-wing publications like the nation magazine, that defended the decision. and then, low and behold, by the 1960's and 1970's, everything slept. and it -- everything slept. -- flipped. and it was the right wing defending the decision and the left-wing had become critics of it. this is ironic. as journalists we should be aware of the politics of this hot button issue. you included a chapter in your book, the decision, about the role of journalist

later in the greek-- we could conversation between lesley bloom, author of a new book about john hersey's reporting on hiroshima. to find out about these programs and to register go to our website at brooklyn history.org. now it's my pleasure to welcome the four participants in tonight's program. maya schenwar is the editor in chief of truth out and co-author i should say of "prison by any other name". she's also the author of "lockdown lockout" and code editor of who do you serve food you protect. she lives in chicago. hello. >> high, it's great to be here. >> welcome. >> victoria law is my is co-author on "prison by any other name". in addition to that she wrote the book "resistance behind bars and coeditor "don't leave your friends behind" and is cofounder of the book through. welcome. >> thank you for having us marshak. >> a brooklyn -based community organizer and strategists working in the lgbtq transformative justice & violins and economic justice movement and is the founding director of vision change when consulting. coeditor of the survival stories and strategies of the transforma

got two questions one from robert and hersey pennsylvania. we were in a disinformation war with russia, are we still? or is it the case it's basically homegrown forces have learned may be other third parties have as well. the russians can update that one. they can declare true the problem does not go away to the extent that that may be the case, when we do about it going forward? >> i would say we are absolutely still in an information war thresher. we have not imposed on russia june extent that is been a necessary deterrent. our government, parts of our government executive branches openly accepted foreign assistance in terms of interference related to the election. and not only that, the social media companies also have not closed off all of the avenues that the foreign adversaries are using to manipulate our discourse. it is such a low cost both in terms of human and monetary spends, there is no reason any bad actor would stop right now. it is really quite effective. with evidence for that even in 2017 a flash mob story that i told before,