she's been following israeli president hertzog state visit to germany, and i put it to her. that remembrance seemed to be the light motive of that visit. it was indeed in fact, he called remembrance the most important command that the bible has in it, except for the command to love thy neighbor. but his emphasis on remembrance was not as an end in itself, but as a path to responsibility and explaining that he paid a very, moving tribute to his father, who in fact, was the 1st israel president to speak to the blandest tug in 1987, and also was a british officer who helped to liberate the nazi concentration camp baglan belsen and president hertzog described his father's words in connection with his experiences. they are at bargain bells and his father said that no one can forgive except for the dead. but the living have a duty to remember and that that is not easy, that it's complex and painful for both sides, for germans as well as for israelis. and he said, for president hartzog in his speech this morning, there are those who want to draw a line under our past and leave it b

this is 60 president of israel heine. hertzog. i am and he was among the 1st officers who liberated the death camps and germany from the jaws of the nazi beast. the ha, nazi large cottleville. i shall never forget how he described to me the horrors he witnessed them out. the stench that's uh huh. the human skeletons and striped pajamas was so the piles of corpses, the destruction the whole the hell on earth again. no man adam. before visiting bergen, belsen, both presidents laid remembrance reeds at berlin's holocaust memorial. it was another symbolic act to show that neither country could forget the horrors of the nazi regime. a mere 7 hotmail, whether we wanted or not, on a shot, the memory of the shore is a deep part of our identity as a nation. this eco, a people who carries in its historic memory such a dork, abysmal impossible experience is not a people like all peoples outside and my mother hats. og state visit to germany, also marked the 50th anniversary of another horror that israel can't forget. the munich olympics massa

it was even put in mung speaking to the parliament in berlin. hertzog urged both countries to fight anti semitism together. and not to forget the past. and the ha i it's more the duty music only the van metre dell. it is not easy to critically engage with remembrance. m. okay, it shakes us. i regular go my name. it is complex for the germans as well. a sure shall mutual motion. there are those who deny every thing called michael or feel guilty or wealth and a hell of a want to put the past behind them. read a shot record in israel to remembrance is painful. survey harvey love. whether we wanted or not. the remembrance of the holocaust is a quintessential part of our identity, which a lot of i, but i remembrance of these atrocities is not easy. or a man or alcohol are ma'am date of his chief political correspond melinda, kind of following president, has on to visit to germany, and she joins me in the studio, melinda high. so the importance of remembrance really seems to be the through line . the central thought here, the central theme of her talks visit, tell us a bit more about math. abs

the central fort here, the central theme of hertzog visit. tell us a bit more about math. absolutely, but the importance of remembrance not simply as an end in itself, but as a path to responsibility. and the president hartzog gave a very moving tribute to his own father, who interestingly enough, was the 1st is rarely president to speak to the bonus tag in 1987. his father was also one of the british officers who fried the german concentration camp of bergen . belsen and he said that he remembers his father's words, describing the horror that he saw at bergen belsen when he went there and that his father said we in the present, we do not have the right to forgive our only the victims have the right to forgive but we have the duty to remember and have sold this person. it has, i went on to say that is the duty both to the victims, but also to future generations to ensure that this can never happen again. and if you remember the speech that we heard yesterday by the german president, frank rotter, stine, mar, in munich, at the commemoration ceremony for the victims of the 9

she has been following israeli present hertzog state visit to germany, and i put it to her. that remembrance seemed to be the light motive of that as s. it was indeed in fact, he called remembrance the most important command that the bible has in it, except for the command to love thy neighbor. but his emphasis on remembrance was not as an end in itself, but as a path to responsibility and explaining that he paid a very moving tribute to his father, who in fact, was the 1st israel president to speak to the blandest tug in 1987 and also was a british officer who helped to liberate the nazi concentration camp baglan belsen and president hertzog described his father's words in connection with his experiences. they are at bergen bells and his father said that no one can forgive except for the dead. but the living have a duty to remember and that that is not easy, that it's complex and painful for both sides, for germans as well as for israelis. and he said the president had sog in his speech this morning. there are those who want to draw a line under our past to leave it behind,

a we've seen israel's president isaac hertzog. he was joined by the german president, frank voltage time my along with other german and dignitaries and some victims families of the time. i'm joined in the studio by melinda crane, our chief, political correspondent, to talk through it, went into what, what stood out for you today for that with that commemoration ceremony. well, certainly the headline news is that very sincere and very moving apology from german president. stine meyer. and apology that the victims families have been waiting for in this form for 50 years. he pointed out that he did apologize. 5 years ago when a memorial was, was opened in munich, but certainly this one is the ringing and very sincere words of apology that i think the families have been waiting for. and he talked, and several others spoke as well. about the fact that germany had a duty to protect, to protect its guests in general. but of course especially to protect these israeli athletes. and we heard several very moving descriptions of what those is

you've just been hearing israel president isaac hertzog, addressing the commemoration. he was following german president, frank frank, voltage time maya. i expected to be more remarks shortly. but 1st, let's take a listen. continue listening. you'll be hearing now from the jewish chamber orchestra. ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah, ah ah ah ah ah ah, ah ah ah.

we've been hearing from german president frank filter stein, mind israel president isaac hertzog, among other speakers. there is more to come. let's listen in now to the musical interlude play by the jewish chamber orchestra. ah ah, ah ah ah ah ah . ah . a nuisance to tom on que pizza. the space between us and they should be so that in order to, let's say, it sees turn out, you know, if you search pleasure in doing my dearest under 50 years ago, i was here to a few hours after the massacre. i stood in your room and couldn't believe how much hatred had been in that room blood in the whole room, even on the ceiling. and i thought to myself, is this where you spend the last hours of your life? i will never stop talking about it. so that that will never, ever happen again. and at those who were responsible for it will pay the price. please forgive me, andre. that took me so long. although we have finally, after 50 years, reached our goals. at the end of the day, you are still gone and nothing can change that. then they murdered you. they also killed the part of me and of all those people wh

my father is a 6th president of israel hind hertzog. i am and it was among the 1st officers who liberated the death camps and germany from the jaws of the nazi beast. the ha, nazi large ga hello lie. i shall never forget how he described to me the horrors he witnessed them out. the stench that's a ha! the human skeletons and striped pajamas. so the piles of corpses, the destruction the whole the hell on earth again on my ladder. before visiting bergen belsen, both presidents laid remembrance wreaths at berlin's holocaust memorial. it was another symbolic act to show that neither country could forget the horrors of the nazi regime. a mere 7 hotmail, whether we wanted or not, on a shot. the memory of the shore is a deep part of our identity as a nation. this eco, a people who carries in its historic memory such a dark, abysmal impossible experience, is not a people like all peoples outside and my mother hats. og state visit to germany, also marked the 50th anniversary of another horror that is real. can't forget the munich olympics massac

the bertelsmann institute, a head of a state visit to germany by israeli president is our head sog. hertzog arrives on sunday and will spend several days in germany. both governments regularly stress the close relations between the countries during a visit to yard for sham. earlier this year, german chancellor, all assaults again underline that germany has a special responsibility towards the israeli state because of the holocaust. but the new study shows that science of alienation can potentially be seen among the younger generation in both countries. for more now, i'm joined by our chief political correspondent, melinda crane. melinda, hi there. what will be on president had folks agenda during his upcoming germany trip. he'll be here for 3 days and he will meet with chancellor all our shots and also speak before the german parliament, the bonus tag. but the most important and undoubtedly the most emotional part of his is it will be a memorial ceremony in munich for the 11 israeli athletes killed in a terrorist attack at the $972.00 olympic games. it's exactly 50 years this monday since t

and i can see that german president frank volter stein meyer and is radio president, is our hertzog are actually, they're paying their respects on the field. we might want to take those there. we others, the pictures live for you. you're absolutely right. you can see many people taking pictures so you can see how family members went really close to that area, standing in front of the building where this happened. so when we arrived here, they told us that the helicopters were standing here of this terrible rescue. and by as melinda already said, coolly prepared police officers who started shooting at the helicopter. and they're still several question marks to actually see what happened there. and that's why this commission of historians, of germany, of israeli historians is so important. and also the germans, they taking responsibility. so it's definitely not just about the financial compensation for the family members. indeed, we are expecting the bavarian premier mark asserted to open the commemorations in just a moment. we can see him there with the group. they're paying their respec

germany's presidents have laid remembrance rapes set berlin's holocaust memorial. israel's isaac hertzog and germany's frank welter. shine maya may the symbolic visit after had sunk, addressed the parliament in berlin. he's in germany commemorating the 50th anniversary of the munich olympics. massa kept on monday, germany apologize for miss handling the murders in 1972, which left 11 is righty. team members dead at the hands of palestinian terrors, even within monmouth, speaking to the parliament in berlin. hotel urge both countries to fight anti semitism together and not to forget the past. they observe before we love whether we want it or not. the memory of the show is a deep part of our identity as a nation. on a story shall a people who carries in its historic memory such a dark, abysmal impossible experience is not a people like all peoples calling them mother. and despite all of this, even if we cannot meet in the realms of memory, we must meet in the realms of meaning and mutual learning. to give meaning to the memory classical, to treat memory as an obligatory imperative. as a mo