. >> i will make an attempt to answer your question, hetbut in essence, and the appeal that comes before the board of supervisors, the planning department did a more substantive analysis for medicated declaration. certainly in all of those instances, the planning department has looked at this issue of cumulative impact. any decisions that this board has made to uphold the ceqa determinations have -- [unintelligible] in terms of the cumulative impact relating to the particular project and similarly situated projects in the vicinity if they are going on at the same time. supervisor mirkarimi: in recent memory, i know this might be of more interest to someone else. of all the appeals that have taken place here and the hours we have sat through, the question of cumulative impact has been at least attempted. i do not recall any time that we have ever ruled in favor of cumulative impact. that is anecdotal, but would you say that that would be almost as safe? >> i don't think i can answer that question. i have been absent for a lot of the appeals. supervisor elsbernd: i keep gong ing on -- you'