since israel's defens operations against hezbollah in 2006, hezbollah has rapidly rearmed, again, thanks to syria and iran and north korea, and reports indicate they now have over 40,000 rockets aimed at israel. recent resports -- reports indicate syria is providing hezbollah with long-range missiles that could strike most of israel and some of that weaponry was reportedly manufactured by those folks in north korea. i would add, incidentally, it doesn't help matters when senior administration officials say the united states should build up what they call more moderate elements of hezbollah. there are no moderate elements of hezbollah. they are not a mainstream political party,er that bloodthirsty terrorist group. but i di gress, madam speaker. to israel's south, hamas and other violent groups have fired somehows and thousands of rockets and mortars on civilian targets in southern israel since 2000, killing, wounding, and inflicting dipe psychological trauma on israeli citizens. i doubt if we'd long put up with rockets coming from the north of our border and the south of our border, but t

i suppose if we had -- hezbollah is designated. it is a sanctioned as sanctioned can be. -- as sanctioned as sanctioned can be. the question of whether the government of lebanon is advancing in any material way or providing material support to has a lot in this context and you have to ask a further question of whether it serves our broader policy interests so it can control its own territory esignate it. whether that makes sound policy. >> thank you. since 2000 -- 2009, [unintelligible] since that time, america used the same [unintelligible] to combatting the terrorism. but now, [unintelligible] he didn't feel any improvement on the ground. the thing is getting complicated day-by-day. the issue is not only to survive. we have to build the country. we have [unintelligible] we can talk about. --[unintelligible] american talks the same way. that is my question. the way you are following now, [unintelligible] thank you. >> i am not sure i agree with the premises of your question. i do think that we're making progress and i tried to out

government to verbally engage with hezbollah and hamas. mark perry is interviewed by terrorism analyst larry johnson, former deputy director in the state office of counter terrorism. mr.johnson is the founder and main author of the no quarter weblog. >> host: hello, larry johnson. i am a former employee of the central intelligence agency and work with the department of state anount terrorism and had been considered somewhat of an expert on terrorism because i can spell. today we have the opportunity for the ultimate reader's fantasy in this program, after words, to meet with an author. if you have read the book all of you would have wanted to sit down and say i would like to ask to answer questions. today, mark perry, but havethis opportunity to speak with you about this book. talking to terrorists. let me ask you, what are you? >> guest: the first question is the hardest question. i am a historian and author in one life. a middle east activist and analyst in another life. this is a combination of both. it refers to the history of the regi

it would embolden support for hamas and hezbollah. and say nothing of the existence of palestinian moderates. it would force the united states into a position of containing a regime whose nationality we could never quite take for granted. it would create a situation in were both israel and iran would have an incentive to carry out a nuclear first strike on the other. so, how are we going to go about preventing this? when roosevelt became president, he had a thought of what is similar. he said to try anything. un sanctions? unilateral sanctions? yes. at the gasoline embargo? yes. at last but not least, military strikes if necessary? yes. should military strikes cripple them for a period of time? you do it all over again. i suspect roger is going to make them as the debate unfolds. the bottom line is, when military strikes have unforeseeable consequences, and military strikes always do, the foreseeable consequences are going to be worse. i think it is fair to say that the west, at jews in particular, have paid a terrible price. he wants

what would hezbollah do in lebanon. what would happen in gaza? what would happen to security interests around the world? you're very idealistic and there is nothing at all wrong with idealism. on the contrary -- but i think you need to temper your black- and-white, idealistic, manichean view of the world with a dose of what comes with aging, which is that sometimes you cannot get everything. you cannot take the draconian step because the repercussions are too great. and i would urge you, as i said in my introduction, to drink a glass of sobriety. >> ok, gentlemen. [applause] >> i think i could just leave the stage and let you guys go back and forth. but we have been flooded with questions from our web cast and from members of the audience. in the course of your back and forth, you have answered some of these questions, including one that we just received from the web about the impact of the bombing iran if that were the military option we would have to take. but let me get to another question that just came in from the web to both panelists. what

fact the report issued by the congress of the united states over the last year that points out that hezbollah is using our country.der to enter the >> i understand their facts but there is no connection right now between hugo chavez and arizona and times square. >> a lot of the terrorists that these terror networks are focusing on are already here, it is not a bothered issue. >> you bring up a fair point and we have to have all the opinions. is what we do here at fox news. thank the panel for being with us tonight. coming up, a student viciously beaten by his own teacher and it was all caught on tape. we will meet the boy who got the beating and we will hear what happened in his own words. >> she started kicking me and punching me and banging my hea [house] wow, i feel like a new house after my quick home energy check-up from bge. it's the closest i'll ever get to a day spa. they wrapped my pipes, installed cfl bulbs, recommended a little nip/tuck around the old windows and more. [announcer] learn to speak the language of energy efficiency at bgesmartenergy.com, and pamper your home with a q

reporter: regarding a threat of such alliance, experts say look at the role iran played supporting hezbollah hall hamas. >> they provide them with technical assistance, money, weapons and training. >> reporter: another deadly example is support iran provided shiite groups in iraq. experts suggest iran is encouraging the al-qaeda fighters to go back to afghanistan to launch attacks there, because the regime is hoping to see the u.s. fail. shannon? >> shannon: thank you very much, mike. >>> california governor arnold schwarzenegger has to terminate big-ticket government spending. the president's supreme court nominee spent four years in the clinton white house. we're going to tell you what she was up to. >> shannon: reviews from senators, democrats and republicans, have been generally positive after meeting with supreme court nominee elena kagan this week, but justice anthony kennedy is not happy with the way some senators questioned candidates for high court. kennedy told an audience in florida that lawmakers should focus on whether or not a nominee would make a good judge. >> just the ask qu

i'm a jew the head of hezbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in israel so he doesn't have to hunt us down globally. for it or against it? >> for it. >> sean: wow. here with more the editor of front page magazine david horowitz and mark levin and professor of history at the university of california irvine. david, that's chilling. especially in light of the fact that this is a no-brainer. when she was out there saying i'll be hung from a cross, homeland security will be after me. she is acknowledging in that statement she knows hamas is a terrorist organization. she wouldn't condemn it so she is saying she supports it, checkmate. >> it is a typical mentality of agrees -- aggressor s to present themselves as victims. the really chilling aspect it is going on now across the country. muslim students association is an arm of the muslim brotherhood. i was at you uc san diego because they are holding an apart tide, israel apartheid week which is a genocidal hate week funded by $40,000 in student funds. centerpiece is an apartheid wall which is a lie because israel security fence h

i'm a jew the head of hezbollah has said that he hopes that we will gather in israel so he doesn't haveo hunt us down globally. for it or against it? >> for it. >> sean: wow. here with more the editor of front page magazine david horowitz and mark levin and professor of history at the university of california irvine. david, that's chilling. especially in light of the fact that this is a no-brainer. when she was out there saying i'll be hung from a cross, homeland security will be after me. she is acknowledging in that statement she knows hamas is a terrorist organization. she wouldn't condemn it so she is saying she supports it, checkmate. >> it is a typical mentality of agrees -- aggressor s to present themselves as victims. the really chilling aspect it is going on now across the country. muslim students association is an arm of the muslim brotherhood. i was at you uc san diego because they are holding an apart tide, israel apartheid week which is a genocidal hate week funded by $40,000 in student funds. centerpiece is an apartheid wall which is a lie because israel security fence has

of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty and also perhaps they might retaliate in a blaze such as hezbollah, lebanon or hamas and palestinian. so i've heard these arguments and i think that there are hard-liners in iran who wouldn't mind some kind of military attack, not that would remove them from power of course because the number one thing is to remain in power but an attack that might aim at some of the nuclear sites but not remove the regime because that would give them an excuse to crack down further on this society and tightened its grip on power. and the second question was t -- >> guest: and about how vulnerable are they? i think they feel they've been vulnerable and that's why they've used force and violence against their own people. i think they are most scared of their own people and what they are scared of is this threat of ideas about democracy and human rights because if these ideas strengthen, and they already have in the society, then the people in power think it will threaten them because they don't want to share their power so they've been using imprisonment, intimidation

this and the fact that they support terrorist groups all over the world, but the hamas and hezbollah. they are getting weapons. i do not want to get into it. >> please do. >> we know that iran is supporting financing and training them. put this altogether. they want to develop nuclear capabilities. this is something that we see as our first priority to alarm the world, the united states, the security council, where we are not members. iran must be stopped. >> some suggested that by calling for the elimination of israel, iran is in violation of the un charter. iran is calling for incitement to genocide. what do you say to those that suggest there should be an international campaign to indict this leader said that if he comes to new york or elsewhere, he become the focal point of the international campaign. to take it a step further, that iran itself should be punished or an intent should be made to punish it within the un for its call for the elimination of the united states? >> the last stage of the bush a administration -- one person said, we are not going to allow one state to threa

they supply hezbollah, hamas, islamic jihad, you name it.ou surprised so many american corporation invest in companies that do business in iran. >> i think as a general proposition, cutting off every commercial tie we can with iran is a good thing. hopefully putting pressure on the regime leading ultimately to its overthrow. but, my worry here is that when you do this on kind of a state by state basis you could be subjecting these insurance companies to real dilemmas in how they proceed and on iran you will not get contradictory instruction from other state insurance commissioners. but, you could imagine other circumstances with other countries where it might be the case. i think, something at the federal level would be a better way to address this question. and then you would have uniformity all across the country. >> gregg: let's put up the list. roughly there are 1,000 companies, insurance companies, who say, okay. we will divest. and, won't do business. but, here 296 insurance companies, are refusing to do it and among them, i would poin

defense secretary gates accuses hezbollah of having more rockets and missiles that most foreign governments. finally, scores of american soldiers and a battery of patriot missiles have a crime in poland for a training mission. meanwhile, russia is expressing anger at having u.s. missiles so close to its territory. >> just weeks after the british elections which produced a new prime minister and coalition government, queen elisabeth will announce her legislative agenda for the new session. we will go to buckingham palace and the house of lords for one of britain's most celebrated occasions. >> on june 28, to break court nominee a landing came in -- elena kagan will testify before the justice committee. you can find more videos at a c- span archive library. >> 99% of attacks can be avoided by people doing simple things already available to them. >> preparing for cyber attacks. dan lundgren on how the government is projecting security networks -- protecting security networks. host: our guest now is abdallah of dollars, 2009 afghanistan presidential candidate, also the former minister of the co

we are dino they used hezbollah and they were responsible behind the bombing of our barracks in beirut. we need to address these issues. i think talking about sanctions has not worked. it is not an effective tool. in our missile defense we are unilaterally disarming and asking others to do likewise. these people do not see that as a wonderful gesture. they see it as a sign of weakness. the only way as thomas jefferson sought it to deal with these people that wanted to destroy the american way of life and put them in their place. every so often, somebody opens a pandora's box. and islamic terrorists come popping out. we can live peacefully with moderate muslims as we have for centuries. we have to deal with that effectively and also north korea. host: brownsville, new jersey. caller: i do not know if i am getting this right. the high court where they try war crime criminals. guest: the military commissions? caller: know, they tried a gentleman over in africa. they are getting those children to join the wars and everything. i want to know why has not the united states and joined that cou

they are behind hezbollah, hamas. russia, china, turkey, brazil are of no help to us. they are all chasing the dollar. nobody wants war, but these people only understand force. guest: first of all, there are several parts to what is going on now. in terms of the nuclear proliferation problem, what has to happen is they have to submit to international inspections to make sure that they are living up to the non- proliferation treaty. that is the legal aspect of this. frankly, they have a right to a peaceful program, if it is under inspection, but not a nuclear weapons program. i agree about their behavior. the question is, how do you deal with the regime like that? the question also is whether or not force would work. in terms of my previous discussion with the tool box, i would not take force off the table, but based on what i know -- and i have not read it entirely into the intelligence of this -- but it is hard to just use force to get rid of their nuclear program without an awful lot of problems. first of all, its effectiveness, and then, then supporting more terrori

hamas, hezbollah, the people we talked about in a negative tone they started providing medical support and food and stability and those things can be underestimated. whether it is bad or good i'm not suggesting that i'm suggesting the level of reason and influence is underestimated. the second comment is i haven't heard much talk about either today or just in general the importance of demographics and how that has changed since 2003. i've suggestd one of the biggest reasons that some of the areas have calmed down and violence is decreased is not the animosity but simply the presence of sunnis and around other portia's or kurds and christians around other arabs and in baghdad if you look at e maps from to the peasantry to 2007 you can see the massive movement out of these mixed areas into almost pure sunni and shia areas and that is going across the board and i would suggest my experience in diyala that also would go iraq. they are still mixed and ongoing fighting. if they consultedin diyala they can solve it elsewhere but i haven't en that. and now the question for you is tied to this.

syria returned the favor by transfering scud missiles to hezbollah, and if that wasn't enough, they disparaged the u.s. overture at a recent sol dare conference with ahmadinejad. while the administration takes extra precaution with our enemies, it has shown far less restraint with our democratic allies. free nations who need our support now more than ever. it has escalated a bogus fight with israeli in a very transparent manner to curry favor with some in the middle east. it has rebuked honduras for holding the rule of law and broken agreements with poland, the czech republic, south korea, and colombia. and during a highly publicized trip to asia at a time when we need india to counter the growing influence of communist china, the president passed india by on his way to china. most troubling is that this is happening as america's military defenses are being downgraded. nowhere is the erosion of peace through strength more evident than in nuclear and missile defense policy. missile defense is modern technology's most game-changing deterrent to a potentially devastating attack. by abandoning the

of other recent north korean provocations such as an attempted sale of weapons to the hamas and hezbollah late last year. fortunately, our close friend and strong ally, thailand, seized the plane containing the armed shipment to the middle east. last month, south korea also arrested two north korean agents sent to sowell to assassinate -- seoul to assassinate the highest ranking north korean official. today, south korea's president said in an address to his nation that in responding to the sinking of the cheonan, and i quote, the overriding goal of the republic of korea is not military confrontation. our goal has always been the attainment of real peace and stability of the korean peninsula, end of quote. the president went on to say that, and i quote again, north korea will pay a price corresponding to its provocative act. that price will include stopping all trade and most investments from north korea as well as closing south korea's rings to north korean ships. madam speaker, house resolution 1382 shares president lee's goals and a calibrated response to north korea. north korea must u