hezekiah, i'm glad you could join us this morning. start with ashley.e story begin and ask them how it ended. >> hi, dana. thank you for having us back on the show. it is hard to believe but christmas day almost one year ago chelsea and her husband nick had one of their first zoom calls with hezekiah. it lasted two hours and now almost a year later they will be celebrating their first holiday as a family. >> dana: how did they sign up with you? >> everything we do is through collaboration. we work with the child welfare agencies and with families like the sullivans who are willing to adopt some of our more vulnerable children like sibling groups andd has taken advantage of all of our pre-adoption services. >> dana: chelsea, tell me about your and nick and your decision to look for a child that you might be interested in adopting. >> we decided to adopt because we weren't able to have kids ourselves and it was just the next logical step. it was such an exciting adventure, really. >> dana: you chose to go for somebody who was maybe a little bit holder. he

but if we're talking about black national delaney day, um, hezekiah fought douglass, others who were who were exploring land elsewhere outside the united states, even back in africa. we say that that's not some form of colonization that could take place if black americans ended up settling in africa and if that would be bad. well, that's what i was kind of thinking about with my comparison to william walker. so whether the we call it a form of imperialism or colonization, um, i wouldn't disagree with what you're saying. we have time for one last question. just piggybacking on that line of questioning somewhere, i think i read that kansas itself was seen a potential promised land for formerly enslaved blacks. did you encounter that in your research? i did see it. i didn't write it up because it wasn't really part of the narrative. um, of the kansas nebraska. um, there, there were, there were contested, um, claims, um, should the, should some of the territory be allotted for african-americans. um, what about the native americans who were already there? um, uh, this all gets subsumed, i