why does hhs's cfo say that? >> well, what happened here is the hhs inspector general discovered millions of dollars in unreported conference funding, and in defense, pushing back on the inspector general's findings, the cfo ellen murray said the cost of. >> getting the right information? >> right would outweigh the benefit to taxpayers. >> how does she figure that? how could it possibly be we don't want exact information? >> well, she cited difficulties in actually gathering the information and keeping track of it. and said, basically, you can either have an accurate report or a timely report, but you can't have both. >> okay. so why can't we at least change the time requirements a little bit? i think most taxpayers want to know whether or not they're partying on our dime again. >> right. it's essentially the bureaucratic answer of we can't get this data because we don't have it because these services are being provided by contractors. >> i read your story and it said that hhs had 140 conferences last year. that

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hhs is a big player.but many agency dose that and in the contract area it is largely a few agencies that let most of the contracts. so it is greater challenge for o & b treasury to exercise oversight over the agencies and hopefully the ig reviews will demonstrate that as well. so i'm hopeful it will be better progress but it has to be priority for the agency possess. hopefully the administration will make it one. one of the reasons i want to be so active in this is that the initial implementation of the legislation, we have talked about the may dates but there are dates for 17 and 18 for agencies to implement these things, initial implementation is spanning two administrations so it needs to be continuity among the administrations to make sure that this operates effectively and that's one of the things gao can do is help urge the administration to maintain continuity. >> yeah. mr. chairman, thank you for your indulgence. >> you're most welcome. >> ms. warden? >> i understand, but i will have to use my own

former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. but first is security at u.s. diplomatic posts any better now than before the benghazi terror attack? that was the topic today at the second benghazi select committee hearing. >> facts haven't changed. the evidence hasn't changed. but the way our government characterizes benghazi has changed a lot. >> we all take this assignment very seriously. >> fire, violence, terror, the weaponry of war. >> today we are safer and more secure. >> one bad actor with the right position and access can seriously endanger the safety and security of personnel overseas. >> i do not think we should move on. >> and ben gau ze select committee chair joins us. nice to see you >> yes, ma'am. >> apparently because of the release of this memo, this torture memo or whatever you want to call it, we put our overseas fa sill tis on high alert. steve linnick the top watchdog for the united states said u.s. posts remain at increased security risks at diplomatic posts. in your work as chairman of the benghazi committee, are things safer? >> since b

there has to be some standardization. >> is that hhs's job to say silt down and don't do that? >>> i think when there was a vacuum, people were filling it based upon folks at if local level. the news is saying one thing and this person on television is saying another. >> but these never happened again. >> everything was fine on that point up until the point where the public was the messenger or the message or both changed. the governor said my public was out raged and i'm going to have a policy and we're going to do this or that. you wouldn't be there unless you had a consistent approach from the beginning. >>> the gap fween what a large segment of the public thought versus the science that is not in dispute, that you both understand, it was a very big gap. and does that -- how do you get over something like that? something that's more frightening or a bigger ecological threat with that inability to tamper down fears and not create chaos. how do you look at that gap? >> i didn't articulate that very well. >> you remember congress isn't simply about legislation, it's about commu

hhs finally provided the enrollment data on spread streets in 6-point font. when electronic copies were demand. the oversight investigation discovered all of the hundreds of straight ahead sheets were password protected and locked. after further negotiation we finally were able to receive the passwords and recognized that all along there had been an inherent deception. this was quickly discovered and would have been discovered by anybody simply by putting the spreadsheets in ascending order of dollars. november 21, 2014, only after it was publicly noted that the committee discovered the administration was willing to acknowledge 393,000 dental plants in the figures released in september. hhs included department pal plans in its enrollment -- dental plans in its enrollment in november and is now been forced to revise down to not greater than 6.7 million enrollees. the administration claims it made a mistake. however, there is great scepticism about that, and particularly the term "mistake" when it appears as though instead hhs and cms were too clever in an atte

what did you -- what was your payment for your contract work with the hhs? >> i was paid less than $400,000. >> $400,000. and i heard that was a sole source contract, too? nice way to go. was that a sole source? >> i -- i don't exactly know. >> well, did you compete, or did you have -- you got a so source contract, i'm told. >> i -- >> okay, i'll leave it at that. you got a sole source contract according to the information i have. nice way to go. the other thing is, then you went out to about eight states. did you have contracts with a number of states afterwards? >> yes, i worked with a number of states afterwards. >> and i heard you got between $200,000 and $400,000 a pop from them. my estimate that i've been told by staff is you took down about $2.5 million in this? >> the number -- >> all the money from health care from your involvement, again, about eight states. am i right? >> i don't recall the exact number of states. >> you can't recall. well, again, i think it would be helpful if you could supply the committee the amount of money, and i'm told it's

moreover hhs included dental plans and its enrollment figures not just once but twice. the agency has included dental plans and its november enrollment figures and has now been forced to revise down to not greater than 6.7 million enrollees. the administration claims it made a mistake. however, there is great skepticism about that, and particularly the term mistake when it appears as though instead hhs and cms were too clever in an attempt to inflict the numbers and say they had medical. it is a small technical error in many ways whether you had 7.3 million or 6.7 million. when you start to the books, add additional numbers and then use careful language so that you did not lie but did deceive, that is exactly what we are concerned about here in this committee. the american people have a right to no the honest numbers. management has an obligation to no if they are, in fact, going to be accountable to the taxpayers for doing her job and, in and, in fact, the american people expect no less. professor gruber is said to be the definition of a gap, when someone accidentally

. >> let's say hhs -- some democratic leadership in the house was going to.t would be a disastrous plate cat consequences for those people. the president, whose approval ratings are low and whose back is to the wall politically, would have lower approval ratings -- >> we're citing what gruber is saying, in maybe democrats and mainstream media hope this goes away because the train has left the station, can't be reversed. >> unless this affected the federal court decision, yes, the train has left the station. this guy is now a pariah on capitol hill. the people who paidded him $400,000, interestingly, the president's annual salary to write this report, don't even want to be seen at the same room with him, the same table with him in public. that may be the extent of the political damage, depending upon what comes out tomorrow. >> you know they'll have language -- tape quoting him ahead of time. >> yes. including the got from pelosi. pass the bill so we can read it. >> he knew what was in it. >> its interesting because the supreme court decision hangs on whether

former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius suddenly seems to know how to fix obama care. >> obama care, nouestion, has a very bad brand that has been driven intentionally by a lot of misinformation and a lot of paid advertising. and i think we may need to call it something in the future different. >> really? just change the name? our political panel is back. john, a new name? >> i just think it's delusional. right now you're finally seeing some thawing among democrats like chuck schumer who are saying it's a bigger problem than this, a problem that doesn't help the middle class. if you think it can be fixed by changing the name name it after somebody popular, taylor swift or aaron rodgers. but it's what obama care does. it's what it is, the reality of it. by two to one people say the law has hurt them rather than helped them from the new fox poll. people losing their plans, paying more. losing their doctors. >> i think she means the misinformation about the past bill. but the misinformation that passed the bill. if you liston jonathan gruber lack of transparency. nobody knew knew it or rea

hhs has announced its new regional director which is ms. stafford jones, who was the chief ceo of the california association of public hospitals. she is based in san francisco and represents california, arizona hawaii and separate territories in the pacific. so we welcome her to the region. >>> my [inaudible] portal was launched and so this is the portal for our san francisco health network patients. it's a new website that will allow patients to be part of their inpatient outpatient health records at one site. hospitalizations will be able to view their discharge documents to the portal website in addition to receiving a physical copy at the time of discharge. they will find their discharge instructions, discharge medication list and a list of vital signs and lab results. this is the beginning of the work that we have to do with our electronic medical records to ensure our patients have access to the records so we are happy about this new opportunity to further empower patients in their own healthcare. >>> i'm proud to announce throughout

moreover hhs included dental plans and its enrollment figures not just once but twice. the agency has included dental plans and its november enrollment figures and has now been forced to revise down to not greater than 6.7 million enrollees. the administration claims it made a mistake. however, there is great skepticism about that, and particularly the term mistake when it appears as though instead hhs and cms were too clever in an attempt to inflict the numbers and say they had medical. it is a small technical error in many ways whether you had 7.3 million or 6.7 million. when you start to the books, add additional numbers and then use careful language so that you did not lie but did deceive, that is exactly what we are concerned about here in this committee. the american people have a right to no the honest numbers. management has an obligation to no if they are, in fact, going to be accountable to the taxpayers for doing her job and, in and, in fact, the american people expect no less. professor gruber is said to be the definition of a gap, when someone accidentally

so there's more people to monitor connected to hhs is declared obviously but many agencies do that. in the contract areas it's largely a key agencies but most of the contracts. so it would be a greater challenge for omb and treasury to exercise oversight over the agencies, and hopefully the ig review will demonstrate that as well. i'm hopeful but it has to be priority for the agency. hopefully the administration will make it one to one of the reasons i want to be so active in this is that the initial implementation of this legislation was talked about a may date but there were dates for 17 and 18. the 18th is to government these things. initial application is legislation will span the two administration. southern is the continuity among the administrations to make sure that this operates effectively. that's one of the things jailed to do is try to help two main continuity. >> mr. chairman, thank you for your indulgence. >> you are most welcome. ms. norton. >> thank you, mr. chairman. you use a small devil to clamp down on the acclamations to you. i can understand that so i will use

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we have a very strong contingent from hhs.have williams sparks, who is for us and is commissioner the administration native americans. we have stacy, who many of you , as well as liz, from our office of intergovernmental affairs. we are here in full force today from hhs as a reflection of the importance of our relationship, broad range, many of issues we all work on together. for those of you i meeting for the first time, i think that this is -- a few of you have had the opportunity to meet -- i want to take this opportunity to tell you how much i do look over to working with you, to help the folks within indian country obtain the building blocks of healthy and productive lives. i had the opportunity to work for these goals when i was leading the walmart foundation and the work we did with the tribes and their. during my time at the bill and melinda gates foundation, i had a chance to work on these issues, too, as we tried to increase conductivity to chapter houses in the navajo nation. i also most recently, as some of you may

it was state policy, i mean, is that hhs's job to say sit down and don't do that or you can't, i mean do they try and fail? tom frieden was tried to do it. >> i think it was difficult in the midst of -- i think when there was a vacuum, people were filling it. it might have been right, might have been wrong, but they were filling it based upon folks at the local level saying hey, i can't, i think it was probably happening to the governors, probably happening to mayors or other municipal people. what's going on? tell me what's going on. washington, i keep hearing different things from washington or the news is saying one thing, and this person on television is saying the other. and i think they were -- >> but these never happened until the trust began to break down. everything was fine up to that point when the trust of the public towards the messenger or the message or both changed, then all the sudden, governors said, my public is outraged, i'm going to have to take over and have a policy and we're going to do this or that. you wouldn't be there if you had a consistent approach to it

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this was because the hhs included people with dental coverage, too. and essentially double-counted them. how could you -- how could that happen? i mean you knew everybody. they know everybody's got a microscope on the program. so i'm just curious. >> sir, it is a great question. it was inexcusable mistake. and i think, in looking at payments made instead of unique individuals, we counted individuals who had both medical and dental. i believe we have put processes in place to prevent that from happening again. but it should not have happened the first time. >> but you understand that the mistake has the same effect as dr. gruber's statement. same thing. it gives aca opponents a pr gift that they can use on cable shows, and elsewhere to attack the aca and it's an unforced political error. now i have to ask you for the record, because everybody's go to ask the same thing, you're under oath. and just tell me, did you intend to deceive this committee or the american people when you provided those enrollment numbers? was that your intention? >> i did not. >

two hospital stadges are dead hh man haron monis. he is already under charges of attempting to murder his ex wife. mmonis walked into the cafe, located at the end of martin place. next door is the reserve bank of australia, directly opposite are the tv studios for the australian network channel 7. other major buildings nearby include the world famous sydney opera house. kim vanel reports. one officer appears to throw a stun grenade. in the crack of what was either gun fire or flash explosions. paramedics were already there and quickly ran towards the building. one woman could be seen being carried out. the siege began during monday morning rush hour. >> a woman was summonings police, she had her phone to her ear. police on motorcycles arrived and others on foot very quickly. she was telling them she had gone to go inside the cafe and the automatic glass sliding doors had been disabled and shut. she initially thought the cafe was closed and then realized something was going on inside. she told police she saw a man with a blue bag and

this is a message you have heard from hhs officials. you will continue to hear it.you are currently have coverage on the exchanges, you have to get back in there and look because if there is more competition in your area, your prices may change. >> woodruff: and just a reminder, we're not just talking about premiums here. because there are other-- it's deductibles, it's copays. >> you've got to look at all the money that will come out of your pocket to get health care. it's not just the premiums. and that's a really important message. people look at that premium and it's understandable and they focus on it but there are a lot of things. your copays, your deductibles, your cost sharings, the total package you have to think about. >> woodruff: mary agnes carey, kaiser health news, we thank you. >> thank you. >> ifill: pope francis took church leaders and catholics around the world by surprise today when he used an annual christmas event in rome to sharply rebuke and audience of top church officials for their shortcomings. the cardinals, bishops and priests of the curi

we will be working with the department, hhs and cms. kind of a two group effort to make sure we put and certifications. i agree with you. >> from the perspective of the patients, are we doing more or how is this helping us to be able to understand? how are you moving to allow the patient to become a better consumer? >> that is, again, we spent a lot of 2014 helping people sign up. now how do you educate individuals who signed up? we have started work that we're doing, started within cms. from coverage from coverage to care, helping people understand what copayments are, how they -- one thing that is greatly misunderstood is that individuals don't pay co-pays and deductibles for preventive care. >> certain kinds. a lot of that they do. >> that is how we we will start. we will work with issuers and advocates to get the education out there. it is pretty complicated. >> complicated. >> it is complicated, particularly for the consumers. i don't agree with the way the system is set up, but that is fundamentally. i hope you continue to focus o

so i've had the other chances in forms but very excited about the breadth of what we get to do at hhs to work with you on these issues. i am fully committed to a strong limited government relationship with the tribes. it is important to me that you continue to be our full partners during the design and implementation of the policy programs and initiatives that we find and advance at the department of health and human services. knowing that actions often speak louder than words, shortly after i became the secretary i visited the tribe near seattle. the chair man sullivan and his staff did a great job of showing me how health and human services programs are delivered at the tribal level. we had a great visit, learned about a lot of things and had an opportunity to meet with the group working on a very promising foster care effort which is helping with funds from hhs to help find a children the children safe and supportive homes in the community. so i had the chance to see firsthand how we are able to deliver impact when we worked together. on this trip the issue came up of whether or no

we haven't seen the end of the heavy surf and hh tides.a makes new threa against the u-s as president obama weighs how to respondo the cyber attack on sony pictures. join us for kpix 5 news this morning... beginning at 4:3 ,,,, >>> here's a look at today's forecast in some cities around the country. >>> here's another look at this morning's top stories. police departments in new york and other cities are on alert after the slaying of two officers saturday. the nypd said the gunman made threats online before the ambush. >>> and upset about being blamed for the sony cyber attack, north korea threatens to strike targets in the u.s. president obama calls the attack cyber vandalism and promises a proportionate response. >>> in france police have a man in custody after police say he deliberately slammed his car into a crowd. 11 people were hurt last night. they say the motive is unclear but it's being called an extremist act as islamists are calling for attacks. >>> president obama is on vacation with his family in hawaii. the family's motorcade

it was state policy, i mean, is that hhs's job to say sit down and don't do that or you can't, i mean do they try and fail? tom frieden was tried to do it. >> i think it was difficult in the midst of -- i think when there was a vacuum, people were filling it. it might have been right, might have been wrong, but they were filling it based upon folks at the local level saying hey, i can't, i think it was probably happening to the governors, probably happening to mayors or other municipal people. what's going on? tell me what's going on. washington, i keep hearing different things from washington or the news is saying one thing, and this person on television is >> these never happened until the trust began to break down. everything was fine up to that point. when the trust of the public towards the messenger or the message are both changed, then all of a sudden, governor said my public insert of outrage so i have to take over and have the policy and we will do that or do that. you would not be there if you had a consistent approach to it from the beginning. me just say this. you can have

we will be working with the department with hhs and cms.his is a two-group effort to make sure that we put in our certification and other requirements. the measures that will push interoperability. i agree. it's critical. >> from the perspective of the patients then, are we doing more to be able or how are you helping us to be able to understand what they are going to provide? how are you moving to allow the patient to be better consumers? >> that is again, we spend a lot of 2014 helping people sign up and now the second part is how do you educate individual who is have signed up. we have started work that we are doing. it started within cms and now it's broadly out to the consumer from coverage to care. helping people understand what did you du deductibles and individuals don't pay copays and deductibles and other procedures. >> certain kinds, but there is a lot of care that they do and that's often when they are going to see them. >> we willéizx work with them tt them out there. it is pretty complicated. >> it is complicated for the consu

this was because the hhs included people with dental coverage, too. and essentially double-counted them. how could you -- how could that happen? i mean you knew everybody. they know everybody's got a microscope on the program. so i'm just curious. >> sir, it is a great question. it was inexcusable mistake. and i think, in looking at payments made instead of unique individuals, we counted individuals who had both medical and dental. i believe we have put processes in place to prevent that from happening again. but it should not have happened the first time. >> but you understand that the mistake has the same effect as dr. gruber's statement. same thing. it gives aca opponents a pr gift that they can use on cable shows, and elsewhere to attack the aca and it's an unforced political error. now i have to ask you for the record, because everybody's go going to ask the same thing, you're under oath. and just tell me, did you intend to deceive this committee or the american people when you provided those enrollment numbers? was that your intention? >> i did

the assistant secretary of emergency preparedness at hhs. that person has not been the point person of ebola. so i think the administration has got to do after action review, to to re-create the wheel? did they take a blueprint that was there? i think on any given news cycle is i different person in the administration. now there's a spokesperson but that's not the we get through a crisis like this. and in some cases to people who said two different things. but concentrated in the assistant secretary of emergency preparedness on the responsibility for the actual training that goes on continually at hospitals. i think what we've got to do is look back and say what was the training we were taking them through. we know that cdc had at least bad regulations as it related to personal protective equipment and that was transitioned very quickly. but did we communicate to the states and to the hospitals here is th the degree of trading what you go through governors the threshold want you to get, capabilities that will be different. but we would have

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lou: 84 being with us for a former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius knows how to fix obamacare. >> obamacare no question has a very bad for a and driven intentionally by misinformation and paid advertising. and day they need to call it different in the future but it is working. lou: we have heard that before. outgoing senate majority leader blamed obamacare for the democrats midterm losses. he said called mac we never recovered from the obamacare pullout. the secretary did not mention that. odd. up next president of obama has an example of what he calls deeply rooted racism in america and did not stop there. next. going on, ryan's daydreaming and inability to focus. it was just frustrating to get my mom to understand what i was going through. so that's when we talked to a doctor and she wasdiagnosed with adhd. it just explained so many things for us. hyperactivity isn't the only symptom of adhd, inattentive symptoms like ryan's, can be less noticeable, learn more. get the adhd symptom checklist at keepmomming.com then talk with your daughter's doctor. lou: a few comments of president obama w

former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius says jonathan gruber wasn't plugged in enough to know. >> maybe he was in a large room, he could have been in on a phone call, but in terms of small meetings discussing policy, that never happened. >> reporter: white house officials continue to spotlight the number of people newly insured under the affordable care act, asked if they were worth the political cost. josh ernest said without a doubt. though clearly some democratic lawmakers do have doubt. >> wendell goler, live on the north lawn, for it's hard to believe for the last time. wendell starts a well deserved retirement tomorrow. wendell, good luck to you, we will miss you greatly. make sure you tune in to the end of the show for a special goodbye for wen daal. why some of the people who were at benghazi were upset got the latest report on the terrorist attacks. >>> we now know when the house select committee on benghazi will now hold it's next public hearing, next wednesday, a week from today. this comes as we're getting more reaction from the house intelligence report from those who witne

lou: 84 being with us for a former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius knows how to fix obamacare. >> obamacare no question has a very bad for a and driven intentionally by misinformation and paid advertising. and day they need to call it different in the future but it is working. lou: we have heard that before. outgoing senate majority leader blamed obamacare for the democrats midterm losses. he said called mac we never recovered from the obamacare pullout. the secretary did not mention that. odd. up next president of obama has an example of what he calls deeply rooted racism in america and did not stop there. next. here's a question for you: when electricity is generated with natural gas instead of today's most used source, how much are co2 emissions reduced? up to 30%? 45%? 60%? the answer is... up to 60% less. and that's a big reason why the u.s. is a world leader in reducing co2 emissions. take the energy quiz -- round 2. energy lives here. i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn. because it gives me... zero heartburn! prilosec otc. the number 1 doctor-recommended freque

to deceive the nation and that's why they brought in marilyn tavener who is over seas obamacare at hhsit next to this guy and pair them together. saying those guys are the perfect pairing. the whole effort was to essentially blame obamacare and to wrap them all around gruber. basically to gruber the obama administration. >> to gruber is now a verb. >> it should be. >> and i'm with stupid t-shirts were all over outthere this morning. some reacting with panic saying you're unwinding all the progress, nobody is talking about all the progress, 10 million people now have health care, there is no debt spiral, more insurers are joining, health cost costs are growing slower than at any time in 50 years. >> i don't think you can gruber the aca here. look they can have their repeal votes in the house and senate and guess what the president is not going to sign it and in another couple years will you see that many million more signed up, then what will they say. >> was there sadness that this is daryl chairing the last committee. >> i'm excited. i enjoyed him over the year but i ecnjoyed the clip

i think all of the actors work at hhs. >> do you think obama will have a hand in casting?y it is not a movie. it is for educational purposes. you can't really understand his vision unless it is presented in a feature film. >> andy, are you going to hit on the movie because it is stealing the spotlight from your favorite hero edward snowden's future movie? >> nobody is going to see this movie. first of all, the whole first-aid story i am pretty sure is a. hoax -- is a hoax. >> what do you mean? >> it is a little too perfect. >> it is a little boring. >> they meet at a bar? >> i sort of agree. i want this to be a musical. i think it should be a singing extravaganza. the quote from the guy's making the movie -- >> next year's nbc production. stephanie and i are excited to produce this smart and time less film that sheds light on one of the great love stories of our times. >> she always seems mad at everybody. >> this is a cult, a film cult. >> it is not a cult. i think it is cute. dear leader. >> i wonder if people will go on first dates to this movie and then in the future m

for me, i have been able to climb the learning curve and sylvia burr well at hhs. my objective is to make sure they are workinging to and we are reallocating resources and getting decisions quickly from the president and making the difficult spoiss that need to be made. the thing that has been surprising me, but humbling to me is the vast array of people who are acting to fight this disease every single day. we are sitting here today and my favorite spots on planet earth and there hundreds of volunteer workers in community care centers and liberia and sierra leone who take voluntary leave to fight this disease and put themselves at risk and doing the most important work that can be done to battle this and the chance to meet with them and do whatever i can to facilitate is the most humbling and most important part of the job. >> maybe you can take us deeper into the perfect storm. where why things appearing to stabilize and look like they are on the increase in guinea and sierra leone. what can we understand about the nature of this that explains it? >> what this br

hhs officials say we didn't know hem, don't have any idea where he is coming from, don't endorse whate is saying, couldn't be more removed from what he was saying, even though they were the ones -- >> that paid him. >> he was advising. >> come on. he was called the man by politico. called the architect by "new york times." the "washington post" said the white house lent him to capitol hill to straighten out the folks on canol hill. he was in the oval office talking to the president about obamacare and yet now the videos that surfaced, he i just some adviser we don't want sitting at the same table. give me a break. no way the american taxpayers are buying the story. they know he was integral to this passing and he deceived them. >> what he said was based on fact. he was trying to sell a lemon, though, and was trying to say, here how you sell that lemon. you're closer to this than i'll ever be. i got the impression, especially when he was called upon and his advisory services, he knew he had a turkey on his hands but was advising these various groups here is how you push that turkey. th

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neil just threw three darts and hit the bulls eye on all set, nailed it on former hhs secretary. >> that's> ben tweets "let's be sure all politicians use the aca at the same price, they are no better than us." >> referring to the affordable care act that essentially they lied. >> frankie tweets, "rule number 6, i'm going to procto next week, you rock, brah." >> he's going to a proctologist next week. >> people think we share the blood type. >> we don't. >> "when people tell you eat your peas it's for your own good, run like hell." >> i don't get that one. they're saying the health care law is for your own good. that's a poor analogy. eating your peas, i understand but -- >> don't get mad at me! >> don't cop a 'tude with me. >> "if you hear comprehensive, think pork." >> very good. >> "to get a bill passed if d.c., the first thing you have to do is figure out where harry reid buries then." >> now that he won't be there. >> number nine, rosemary tweets "all politicians should put our country's needs ahead of their own concerns for their own political careers." >> that's a good general rule o

the learning curve thanks to great experts like tony fauci and others at the cdc, sylvia burwell at hhs. my major objective in the job is just to make sure that all of our agencies are working together, that we're identifying problems, reallocating resources that need it, getting decisions quickly to the president for him to make about our response and making difficult policy choices that need to be made. the thing that has been not just surprising to me but humbling to me every day is the vast array of people who are acting selflessly to fight this disease every single day. we are sitting here in one of my favorite spots on planet earth and while we sit here, there are hundreds of volunteer health care workers in ebola treatment centers in sierra leone, government employees who have taken voluntary leave, reassignment to go fight this disease right on the front lines, putting themselves at risk doing the most important work that can be done to battle this epidemic and the chance to meet with those folks, talk with those folks and do whatever i can to facilitate their work is the most h

. >> rachel hornsteen, i work in data policy at hhs. last year the office of management released the memo and one concern was the mosaic effect, how when you release different data sets and link them, there's the possibility of releasing identifiable information on beneficiaries or clients. can you please touch on that? >> i don't have anything. >> so, this brings up the elvis' doctor problem, which is if you report physician-level data and don't have a minimum number of procedures or patients treated, and if you report on the practice patterns of elvis' doctor and everybody knows who thatis, then you can find out everything else about elvis. so that's the motivation for the 11-plus minimum claim requirement. you know, there's obviously a risk that really sophisticated data analysts are going to be able to take this data release and consume it with other resources and figure things about individuals. my guess is that probably a bigger risk from hackers just getting into the cms mainframe, but i don't know. i think that we're definitely

in 2009, one month after president obama took office, the department of, her department, hhs, put out sole-source solicitation titled, technical assistance in evaluating options for health reform. that contract, andrea, was with gruber, okay? in that contract, they specifically said he was the only person, and i quote, reasonably available, satisfying agency requirements. andrea, there is no disputing this. for sebelius to say she doesn't know who he is, after her agency paid him nearly $400,000 just on obamacare alone and nearly $4 million since the year 2000? somebody should be asking some questions. >> harris, i thought of you when i watched interview. >> really. >> you do tough interviews and ask fair questions, do research. there was no follow-up when sebelius said. that i thought, harris faulkner would never let sebelius get away with out follow-up and presenting facts sand draw just did. >> thank you for that. i think it requires that she 6 we suspend our memories. wants us to go on worldwide forgetful tour all the democrats singing this map's praises for years, including harry