as add hicial winnefeld has said, we have not concluded anything about the specifics of our compensation proposals. but he meets with them and listens, and they have a general dialogue about far-ranging issues. and i have not been privy to them, but if you would like, i would be happy to take for the record some report back on the kinds of topics that they discuss. >> that would be helpful not just with veterans' group, but any stakeholders that are out there that could offer maybe valuable information as department moves forward in compensation. i would think you would want to seek that. >> may i also add on the commission there has been a lot of back and forth with the commission sharing data, sharing analysis and so forth. so there's been those kinds of discussion. again, not our specific proposals was they're not done, but there's been a lot of engagement. >> thank you, dr. fox. i appreciate that. secretary hagel has also stated that the department would begin implementing the package in the fy-215 budget. is that sill the plan, and are -- still the plan, and are you going to include