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joining me now from denver, colorado dr colorado, governor hicken plo e is with us. >> my pleasure. >r five hours. what do you know about this point about where robert dear jr. obtained his opinion and how he got there and how this was all able to happen? >> well, they're still piecing that together. i'm not sure they released facts on that. he appears to come into the state from out of the state. i don't have other information. >> you called the shooting an act of terrorism. do you know anymore about the motive? >> no. not at this point. it is just that you look at a lot of what surfaced and has come forward, and at least it seems likely that based on what we know that this is -- he was creating a moment of terror. he certainly did. and i can't see another reason for why he was doing it. >> your state, governor, suffered so many horrific mass shootings in recent years. there was columbine in 1999 but then two church shootings in 2007, you had aurora in 2012 and then just this year a halloween shooting in colorado springs. and then just four weeks later, friday's planned parenthood sh