the voice mmail we just played u from kelly ward to hickman was made back on november 13. so this pressure campaign on state election officials began very soon after the vote. the giuliani call was made to hickman on december 4, and the white house switchboard calls, one on new year's eve, another on january 3rd. why is january 3rd especially significant? it's because the news broke of trump's call to raffensperger worldwide that day. that very same night, the white house was trying to get to hickman, get him on the line for the president, a president desperate to stay in power. pretty brazen stuff, right? so what exactly went through hickman's mind when he listened to those voicemails? i shall ask him. clint hickman joins me now, and clint, i should begin by playing for you and reading for you what the trump team's response was to this developing story. this was a statement they gave to to us. quote, it's no surprise that election officials had no desire to look into significant irregularities during the election. they have refused to be open examine honest about the pres

bye. >> rudy giuliani also left a voicemail for hickman. then on the night of january 3rd, the day trump's call with georgia's secretary of state was published, the man in charge of the maricopa county election got this voice mail. >> hello, sir. this is the white house operator. i was calling to let you know that the president's available to take your call if you're free. if you could please give us a call back, sir, that would be great. you have a good evening. >> trump has never stopped that pressure campaign. it was a multi-pronged effort that included pressuring elected officials, storming the capitol, and now passing restrictive

clint hickman joins me, now. and, clint, i should begin by playing for you and reading for you what the trump team's response was to this developing story. this was the statement that they gave to us. quote, it's no surprise maricopa county election officials had no desire to look into significant irregularities during the election. they have refused to be open and honest about the presidential election. stonewalling a forensic audit for months, and are still hiding voting equipment and routers from auditors to this day. what do they have to hide? why don't we begin with you responding to that response? >> well, i would say, thank you, michael, for inviting me tonight. i would say, all of my colleagues have done our best to -- to be upfront about the maricopa county election even while it was going through. i will take it back a little bit. we had three major elections during a pandemic year. i became chairman of -- last january, before this. so a year and a half ago. and we were going to run three elections. and

hickman quickly listened to the message. the white house switchboard wanted him to call back so he could talk to the president he called in an interview with the arizona republic. hickman did not return the call and later deleted the voice mail. trump encouraged him to find enough votes to reverse trump's narrow loss there. hickman recalled listening to the leaked audio of that hour-long phone call after "the washington post" and other media outlets published the recording. i was horrified, hickman said. that same night at 9:22 p.m. approaching midnight in washington, his phone buzzed again. it was the same area code. he let it go to voice mail again. here is that voicemail from the white house operator on january 3rd. >> hello, sir, this is the white house operator. i was calling to let you know that the president's available to take your call if you're free. if you could please give us a call back, sir, that would be great. have a good evening. >> the man who could not get that phone call returned held a grotesque rally in

take care, bye. >> here's another from arizona republican party chair kelly ward to clint hickman. >> hey, clint. it's kelly ward. i just talked to president trump, and he would like me to talk to you and also see if he needs to give you a call to discuss what's happening on the ground in maricopa. give me a call back when you can. thanks. bye. >> hickman told the arizona republic he believed trump was going to ask him to change the results of the 2020 election or promote other election-based conspiracy theories, so he decided not to return the president's call. another supervisor tells the paper he didn't return two calls from the white house switchboard operator who indicated then president trump wanted to speak to him. kelly ward didn't respond to comment from the arizona republic. cnn reached out but hasn't heard back yet. we've reached out to rudy giuliani for comment and are still waiting. we just heard from former president trump's team, quote, it's no surprise that maricopa county election officials had no desire to look into significant irregularities during the election. the

i was horrified, hickman said. that same night, at 9:42 pm, approaching midnight in washington 9:42 pm, his phone doesn't agai. it was the same area code. he let it go to voice mail again. here is that voice mail from the white house operator on january 3rd. >> hello sir. this is the white house operator. i was calling to let you know that the presidents available to take your call if your free. if you could please give us a call back, sir, that be great. have a good evening. >> the man who could not get that phone call returned held a grotesque rally in florida on saturday night, under a boundary namely event we reserve-palooza. that plane was hired by an anti trump pack. with the state of florida and mourning over the deadly building collapse where workers are still searching the rubble. america's most heartless bulgarian held a celebration of himself, even after republican governor of florida who polls higher than donald trump in florida said the event should be rescheduled. manhattan prosecutors are no happier

much of the attention from trump's allies were focused on supervisor clint hickman.ent west valley family that runs an egg company. on november 13th hours after a late evening ballot update from maricopa county clinched biden's win in arizona he delivered a message, quote. potus probably will be calling you. hickman ignored two calls from the white house telling "the arizona republic" saying that he presumed trump would try to influence the outcome as he did with georgia officials. this is where we start this hour with some of our favorite reporters and friends. ashley parker is here, "washington post" bureau chief. eddie glide, princeton university. former republican congressman david jolly here, the national chairman of the serve america movement. lucky for us all three are msnbc contributors. ashley, this is tremendous reporting in "the washington post" we started with. take us through what it means for the mid-term. >> it just gives you a sense of how much former president trump is still the leader of the republican party and how much the false, dangerous and bas

bye. >> rudy giuliani also left a voicemail for hickman.ight of january 3rd, the day trump's call with georgia's secretary of state was published, the man in charge of the maricopa county election got this voice mail. >> hello, sir. this is the white house operator. i was calling to let you know that the president's available to take your call if you're free. if you could please give us a call back, sir, that would be great. you have a good evening. >> trump has never stopped that pressure campaign. it was a multi-pronged effort that included pressuring elected officials, storming the capitol, and now passing restrictive state laws to try again next time. the idea that republicans can overturn an election is a real threat. quote, given what we saw trump actually do in 2020, these things are now within the realm of possibility and need to be legislated against and organized against so we have a fair election process going forward. the founder and editor of the indispensable election blog joins me now. i read your quotes in that piece by my c

it also hearing of differences within carbon itself, where earlier we had heard that go with the hickman 100 cars by and others would be part of this high power delegation which is, which has begun talks with the taliban, who they are not here. and we've been told that there are differences within their part of the structure and have gone to the sun on the way forward. so it is a complicated issue. it has been a 2 decades long war. the americans are or have all but left as long as, as well as their allies, including the 2 countries. all those countries are here as observe as the well trying to see where these negotiation go further. trying to push things along and hoping that there can be some sort of a peaceful solution to it, which as the situation of the ground tells you, might be more unlikely than happening in the next few weeks here in the country capital. i sounds in ga, the following, those talks for in the how thank you so much for selma. well, let's now get the view from cobble and speak to charlotte bennett. she is in the african capital. so it just how closely are people over

a represent named clint hickman. he let the first call go to voicemail.couple of days later "the washington post" published a phone call in which president georgia secretary of state to look into the results in his state. the call where trump said he needed to find 11,000 votes. that same night the republican elections official in arizona got another voicemail. a got another voicemail. >> the official told the arizona republic he presumed trump would try to pressure him. so he never returned that call. this new reporting is the latest to detail a multi-state effort by trump and his allies to undermine the results of the 2020 election, the same effort to led to a so-called audit that's been going on in arizona since april. run by the cyber ninjas. now the republican playbook on how to overturn the 2020 election is turning a new page, this time in pennsylvania. the associated press is reporting today that republicans in the pennsylvania state senate might be planning their own audit of the 2020 election in their state. that effort is led by republican state

. >> reporter: april hickman, raised in foster care, now in an actual apartment with her two youngestghters; emergency housing arranged by gopal's staff. she had spotted a facebook ad for interapt's apprenticeship program whilliving in the shelter. >> i just kept googling until i tually found an application. somebody called me right back and said we had to kind of go through a cong test. >> reporter: were you scared? >> i was nervous. i was crazy. >> reporter: but she passed. >> and i was like, yes! and so i was so excited, you know, like i was crying. i was like, yes! >> we started with a very rural population, then we went with 100% african-american population. same metrics, same results. the common thread between two people that you would think were very fundamentally different. they all had the drive. >> this was everything for us. this was our shot. even if we had to sleep in a trunk some daggone where, i was making it through that class. i was not giving up. >> reporter: of all the foster kids you've known, given the sameind of opportunity, same kind of training, what percentage

clint hickman is this fellow's name, and he was a maricopa county supervisor, a trump supporters. it's not as if he were a detractor. what's most significant to me is he was supportive of donald trump, had met him on the tarmac. he had even gotten one of those campaign rally shout outs, but he's in a position now of authority relative to counting the ballots, and on two occasions when the white house operator reaches out for him, one of them interestingly was a new year's eve phone call, he refuses to take the call. and meanwhile, in georgia, brad raffensperger does take the call and we all got to hear the sum and substance of it. so this was a guy who voted for donald trump, wanted donald trump to be reelected but knew enough to stay away when the former president who was then the president tried to meddle in the election outcome. >> i want to get your thoughts on something that i know has been weighing on your mind, mook l, -- michael, something that is relevant post fourth of july, the politicalization of the american flag. >> so it's funny because on radio recently going into

recall what clint hickman, the guy at the center of this, said on this show. >> i told people that were close to the trump campaign, with all this litigation that was going on, i said just hey, just do me a favor, i can't talk to anyone while this is being litigated. and that stayed true all the way up till that new year's weekend. i got a phone call from the white house switchboard. >> arizona's secretary katie hobbs joins us right now. secretary of state, thank you very much. any indication that the republicans in your state want to move away from the fraud farce and deal with any actual fraud that involved anything to do with trump? >> well, we could only hope. but right now it seems like they are just continuing to lead by conspiracy theory. those who know that this fraud is a farce aren't willing to speak up about it. and certainly no indication that the state's top law en, toment officer is going to act on our request to investigate. in fact, he didn't even need a request from my office. he should have just acted on the reports alone. every layperson can look at this and say this

final out on a nice play by tony kemp, who seems to show up in the highly lights every night, jake hickman just find a way to win one out of three. they are 4.5 back in the western division behind those houston astros. alright san francisco giants have the day off before the washington nats committed town over the weekend and last night in their victory over st louis. was it a case of. we're just trying to get an edge, or are we cheating another installment? here's the setup. okay, early on in the game, second inning. mike stream ski breaks a 11 tie with a shot to center field. rookie pitcher johan oviedo of the st louis cardinals. he's standing at second base. meanwhile it is wilmer floors at the plate and rv adults seems to think that jastremski is relaying signs tools to exchange words. yeah, just like just stay shut up and pitched and oviedo is like just shut up period has to exchange words. later alvarado said that he had to be exchanging sides with the batter. otherwise romer floors wouldn't have known to take those pitches either way, kind of a tense moment. here's what yes, has had

records are showing he also attempted to do the same thing with election officials in arizona but clint hickman, the chairman of the maricopa county board of supervisors, rejected the calls. we will deal into it with former manhattan assistant rebecca roiphe and with jill wine-banks at the top of the hour. we will break it down and you don't want to miss the analysis and conversation. still ahead, everybody. >>> olympics dreams shattered. an inspiring track and field star suspended over marijuana use. the growing debate over whether officials should just let her run. >> don't judge me because i am human. i am you, i just happen to run a little faster. ttle faster. taking align can help. align contains a quality probiotic to naturally help soothe digestive upsets 24/7. try align, the pros in digestive health. with relapsing forms of ms... there's a lot to deal with. not just unpredictable relapses. all these other things too. it can all add up. kesimpta is a once-monthly at-home injection... that may help you put these rms challenges in their place. kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the r

hickman was being pressed by the state republican party chairwoman and mr.s. let's remember there is zero fraud in this state. a republican stepped up and stood firm against lies. last month arizona democrats refused to show up to the house floor, denying republicans a square up to move forward on a budget proposal that included a $1.7 million that would benefit the wealthiest arizonians. despite efforts, senate republicans passed the bill with the tax cut included. it was signed into law by arizona's republican governor. how can democrats fight back against the trump agenda and gop lies in purple and red states. joining us arizona state representative daniel hernandez. he helped save congresswoman gabby give orders life the day she was shot. he is running for congressional seat in u.s. congress. i want to talk about the efforts documented to cast doubt on overturning the presidential election in arizona. your reaction to the latest reporting? >> i'm not surprised because what has been happening for the last ten years has been a complete and total attack on

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