powell market and hiden beach. what is the -- keeping members of the public as safe as we can from a potential gunfight that might occur? >> absolutely. the purpose of the firearms is deterrents. unfortunately it's worked to that effect to that date* to keep our employees safe and general public safe. cay vich to give you a specific answer to that question. >> it's a hypothesis. we don't know what the impact of it is -- if we would have been just as safe without it as well. because we don't have any data to showcase. >> thank you supervisor kim. without putting our employees and the general public at risk, delve too deeply into security sensitive information, what i do feel comfortable saying is that the armed security officers are in place specifically to protect lives and safety of people, not property. so we don't -- we would not engage in the use of any degree of force -- particularly lethal -- in the interest of protecting money. it is lives only. and this is a component of the training that is something that