>> strong or of or higby, hollad was too smart for that. >> why weren't you involved in discussions in political intelligence at that point in the '72 campaign. >> there was a meeting every week of the brain trust of the campaign. then the fellow that came in to replace john connelly, me, halderman and this was sort of the strategy session. the intelligence issue never came up once. and i was not part of the staff discussions or the staff process of approving it. the only time i heard about it was when hunt came into the office and i have attributed that to the fact that mitchal and i did not get along. >> do you think the president knew you were being set up to take the fall for watergate? >> yeah, i do. i hate to say that because i would like to think that he had as much reflection for me as i did for him. but i think he knew it, i think he had to know it. >> how do you explain that since you described how close you were. >> well, i don't agree with derwin, but that's the survival of the fittest. i was below him on the food chain. if the president is thinking how he is going to save

first off, i want to state before i get started here that i'm here as carl higby, private citizen andepresentative of the d.o.d. or anything and the views here are mine and don't represent anything from the seal community. >> understood. 9/11 happens, you're an outstanding wrestler in greenwich, connecticut and you say that's it, i've seen the towers burn and i'm taking action. i join the navy seals. what did you see there that had you worried about the country? >> well, you know, like i said, the book is about america, freedom and the constitution and about defending it and overseas, we fought for things like that, you know, for the home front and now i'm here back in america and i want to fight for that still. >> what's wrong? what's wrong with this country that has you so concerned to write a book? >> well, there's a lot of things wrong that need to be fixed. first and foremost, i think we need to get our out of control spending under control. we have mindless bailouts for companies. right now, our government is also putting politics in front of we the people. so if they can start