the high tech crime investigation association holding a conference where people in the cyber security industry came to meet and hear speakers discuss various topics and with us and speaking with us now is one of those. is that our friend of the show todd shipley with the of various software todd thank you so much for being here it's great to have you in studio it's great to be here so tell us all the new and exciting news that coming out of there i mean are are we finally getting a handle on what's happening and what's what are the latest things people are talking about sure i mean getting a handle that's maybe there's so much going on and that's what this conference was all about there are so many things in this field that you have to understand there's no one thing that somebody has to know anymore there's so much happening from the io t. stuff the internet of things we've talked about on multiple occasions to drones and where they're falling in the spectrum of cyber attacks or attacks at all and so there's a lot of stuff happening even just basic wife i investigation traditional st