if we don't have national freight vision we won't connect the highwa to the ports and the railroads. if you look at the top 30 cities in our country, it equates for 70% of the commerce and if you look at the costs that are studied around the world, it's in these top cities. that's where the congestive costs are going to the economy and a lot of it is freight-driven. we did these listening sessions and what we have heard, we don't have a commuter problem but a freight issue in this country that is causing a commuter issue. we have to have a national vision that i think, lays out what the economic future of how we are going to sell, who we are going to sell, those types of things. >> to stay with the idea that when we think of infrastructure for us, it's very broad-based, not just surface-related but aviation and transmission and broadband. we have lou who is the chairma and c.e.o. of a leading clean energy company with 2002 revenu of more than $15 llion, 43 mega what thes of generating capacity and 15,000 employees in 28 states as well as canada. next to matt -- lou is lora, senior ad