and hilco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by klru's producers circle, ensuring local programming that reflects the character and interests of the greater austin, texas community. - i'm evan smith, he's a civil rights activist and educator whose work on behalf of the black lives matter movement has made him one of the country's most celebrated and consequential advocates for social justice. he's deray mckesson. this is overheard. let's be honest, is this about the ability to learn or is this about the experience of not having been taught properly? how have you avoided what has befallen other nations in africa? you could say that he made his own bed, but you caused him to sleep in it. you saw a problem, and over time took it on. let's start with the sizzle, before we get to the steak. are you gonna run for president? i think i just got an f from you actually. this is overheard. (audience applauding) deray mckesson, welcome. - it's good to be here. - thank you very much for being here. so, we sit here today on january the 13

and hilco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by klru's producers circle, ensuring local programming that reflects the character and interests of the greater austin, texas community. - i'm evan smith, he's a civil rights activist and educator whose work on behalf of the black lives matter movement has made him one of the country's most celebrated and consequential advocates for social justice. he's deray mckesson. this is overheard. let's be honest, is this about the ability to learn or is this about the experience of not having been taught properly? how have you avoided what has befallen other nations in africa? you could say that he made his own bed, but you caused him to sleep in it. you saw a problem, and over time took it on. let's start with the sizzle, before we get to the steak. are you gonna run for president?