hillard heintze aren't requesting anything from us. we asked the question. you asked the question about what my thoughts were on that. we are requesting that this collaborative configuration with hillard heintze and cal d.o.j.. so that's not their request at all, that's us. it's not funded. >> vice president elias: i guess i agree with my fellow commissioners, but if we don't have money to pay for it, that's the question. what do we do then, really, you know, that's what i'm trying to understand, what are we doing if we don't have the money? >> well, i think this is one of the things where 400 -- if the amount is $400,000, i know the city does not have unlimited funds, but i don't think there's anything more important in the world of policing right now than real reform and and where our priorities are. that's the real question. if the department's priorities continue to finish this work and put us in a place where we are meeting the public's expectations, at least in terms of this issue of reform. so, you know, we -- since i've been here, we've never had a b