evidently hillary was.ith the mueller investigation, why aren't they given the parts that collusion that hillary was in with the dossier and all that? that is something i cannot understand. some of these democrats call in and rant and rave. i am like, cut them off. they are going crazy. i wish i knew their addresses. i would send them all pacifiers and baby bottles. they are really pathetic. host: thank you for the call. looking at the exit polls, a breakdown among democrats and republicans, age and gender, and assessment of voters during the detailsou can get the at cnn.com. this is what it looks like from the exit polling numbers. tom is next. welcome to the conversation. caller: i think the house needs to protect robert mueller. people mueller put them in jail. they are cooperating with the fbi because the facts are the facts. they don't to know the truth. themany years it took clinton investigation, like five years or more. people are complaining that they want to fire mueller because they don't want to

up, of crooked hillary. trump campaign was all that hillary was corrupt because she a private server in her house. >> we're attributing that the critique of hillary clinton was principled and not politically motivated. let's assume that's true. what we see here with ivanka trump and what we see with donald trump more generally is that they don't care about the rules. they only care about themselves. they don't play by the rules. they play by their own rules. it's almost as if we have -- we've elected a bunch of bureaucrats to do whatever they want to do. >> they don't under the system. >> that's a generous read. they downed but they don't care. >> here's the deal. we've said time and again, eddie, that so much of what donald trump does is just out of ignorance. he's never read history. he's never understood history. he's never cared to understand history. he still doesn't care to understand history or what constitutional norms are or what a president can and cannot do, what the president should or shouldn't

this is how hillary wins. i think i was less surprised for people who had been on the road constantly. >> enclosed a surprise me, you say hillary press and the trump press both thought we were the sad sack to do. are you saying it wasn't just you? a lot of the press were looking around, she's not going to do this. this is not what i was getting from the national press. >> was interesting, whatever covering, you think you're going to win. you are in the bubble. you're only seeing one side. i was with hillary in 2008, in the primaries. she was going to puerto rico. it was obvious she wasn't going to. i don't know, she could pull it off if she gets it puerto rico. i remember coming back to the newsroom and ashley parker was traveling with trump, we were both saying we were covering the losing candidate. there was a big default and i wonder if media, that's not the data shows. i want to say we all predicted present we were all relying on the polling. >> nobody can really know because there's so many variables and

want to relitigate what happened with hillary.dad said this is wrong. then she goes and does that and you say forget about it. >> jedidiah: it's not the same thing. she was using private email, not the same as using your own server. >> dana: i don't know how you would even find the white house server and go and demolish it. >> juan: we have to go. you know that we love to argue. the clintons returned to attack president trump and will hillary run again in 2020? jesse hopes so. find out next on "the five" ." i am not for colds. i am not for just treating my symptoms... (ah-choo) i am for shortening colds when i'm sick. with zicam. zicam is completely different. unlike most other cold medicines... ...zicam is clinically proven to shorten colds. i am a zifan for zicam. oral or nasal. ♪ >> jedidiah: just when you have had enough, bill and hillary keep coming back for more. the clintons covering a variety of topics while kicking off their tour in canada last night. hillary laughing off a question about a possible 2020 round and of cour

republicans didn't care about hillary clinton's e-mails.ey wanted to persecute her, chanting lock her up, lock her up. it was good and red meat for the base. they didn't care. now you have ivanka doing the same thing and we're going to hear complete silence. she's a high ranking -- although his daughter, a high ranking official who has a security clearance. if we're going to have an fbi investigation for hillary clinton, we need an investigation for ivanka trump. i think the saying is what's good for the goose is good for the gander. i am tired of the hypocrisy. the american people are tired of the hypocrisy. we're going to chant lock her up and investigate her from here until the cows come home or we just say that we were hypocritical and hillary clinton's matter was not that serious. >> i hope nobody chants that. it showed a disrespect for the process. what about the hypocrisy here? >> to sort of ignore the obvious differences here is, i think, a little hypocritical. hillary clinton went out and established her own server in full knowledg

they were saying hillary was old. isn't joel older than hillary?r is it because he writes amtrak that makes him an interesting candidate? >> it's interesting that they are naming people who have been around for a while but they reject hillary clinton. a lot of those people there, they are independents and they can vote in democratic primary, half of them don't want someone who can beat donald trump. half of them want trump as their president. the battle in new hampshire isn't just as the -- isn't on just the left or right. if you capture the center, it's 20%, additional votes you can get another state primaries. >> laura: the hill areas thing is when people say that guy in texas. he has charisma. that guy. beto. i think beto o'rourke, barack obama. you know, the names are the same. charisma. people are looking for charisma because they know that trump had it. >> these are supposed to be the most educated voters, the most informed. it's clear they are choosing people based not on policy but based on personality. that has changed. >> laura: and trump

i don't think it rises to the level of hillary clinton.ivanka did, i'm disappointed that she did it. i'm sure she feels very bad about having done that. it was careless. it was not a good thing to do. it doesn't rise to the level of what mrs. clinton did. >> the problem is, none of it -- >> should there be an investigation? >> do you think there should be an investigation or no? >> unless there's some evidence here that she was dealing with a lot of information as mrs. clinton was of a sensitive nature and that was part of the discussion, again, from what the articles i read is that the majority of the discussions were about scheduling and her children and family and things like that, which i know that's what hillary clinton said, but it didn't turn out to be that way. >> it turned out to be closer than that than what you were making of it. that's the problem. put it all out there. i don't care about what these guys are using -- if you get caught, you got a problem. if you get caught by somebody else, not the u.s. government, but they catc

then it was related to hillary clinton and comey. you know, he has had all sorts of complaints about officials at the justice department. chris wray had very -- a very narrow honeymoon before he started incurring trump's frustration. but, yes, one of his frustrations, he didn't think things were being done to go after his rival. >> so where does it stand now, that relationship between the president and the fbi director? >> look, as far as we know, you know, it remains unchanged. i don't think that it is anything like the level of toxicity with what we saw with jeff sessions. but remember, that was a very specific thing related to jeff sessions' recusal from the russia probe, which literally everybody denies had to happen, except the president. this is a different issue. nothing is ever going to top that. but look, people come in and out of donald trump's favor all of the time. but you come in and out of favor because you're not using the justice department as a way to settle personal political scores. >> we remember -- at least some

who supported hillary clinton for president. in his world, we would have amnesty, open borders, and sanctuary cities. those are the things we have to talk about. that is why the president knows this west virginia race is so critical. >> let me get clarification. do you support the language used by the president, which mansion says is inflammatory? mr. morrisey: nobody has an ideological twin that says the same words as someone else. this president is absolutely right that we have to close our borders and it is diamond to clear posed to hillary clinton -- diametrically opposed to hillary clinton. senator manchin is a dishonest washington liberal because all you are seeing on the issues that matter is -- [crosstalk] moderator: let us get the rebuttal from senator manchin. mr. manchin: i have voted every time to support the border as far as securing the borders. i have voted every time and will continue to vote every time. the president has used every means possible to him. i have also said that we have to tone down the rhetoric. a

he made his bed with hillary clinton and that is better west virginia. >> hillary clinton is on the ballot. morrisey: every issue imaginable. we wouldn't have judges, we wouldn't have trump tax cuts, we wouldn't have open borders. >> moderator: we will get to that. patrick morrisey your home county is jefferson county, there's a huge fight over the rockwell plant that is under construction, supporters say the $150 million investment is a bit into the economy. opponent say the plant will hurt the environment and is not the type of developer and people want. you told me you would have an announcement prior to the election on your position. it is almost election day. please tell us now whether you as someone who has a home their support or oppose the plant. morrisey: i was clear on your show when i said we would keep looking to get to the bottom of it and we are still doing that because we still need to have meetings with the state department environmental protection. i will not use this issue to ride both sides of the fence like joe manchin does, that is what a dishonest washington liberal d

one attorney represented hillary clinton and the clinton foundation.ep mueller's pitbull attended hillarylinton's election night victory party in brooklyn and supported sally yates' insubordination against the president. the conflicts of interest are too unbelievable to be true. of course, you won't see this in the mainstream media. they they they are the extensid the cheerleaders for their friends on a special counsel on all things democrat, pushing no single most biggest and absurd conspiracy theories you will ever hear! but american lives tonight are being ripped apart becauset without any underlying crimein the screws were turned, you will remember on general flynn. he ran out of money. lost his family home. he had to sell it and face bankruptcy over the mounting legal bills before pleading guilty for lying to investigators but the f.b.i. never thought he lied. probably threatened to go after his son. good father falls on the sword and forced to admit something that the f.b.i. never thought he was guilty of. this is the thanks yougn a get r serving your country for 30 years. low level

he gave hillary clinton the nickname "crooked hillary" for a reason. she should have been prosecuted. the single easiest slam-dunk i've ever seen in my life. when you delete emails, plead the fifth. by the way, comey's actions legally need to have been looked into and it should be. when we come back also tonight later on in the program, we will have senator lindsey graham joining us. he will weigh in on all of us. and now we turn to the situation with saudi arabia's crown princ prince. pay close attention, this will be very hard for the liberals in the media to pay attention to. i want them to pay close attention. the murder of the saudi journalist, jamal khashoggi, was reprehensible. that is evil. i have little doubt that this evil act was carried out in the saudi consulate at the direction of saudi arabia's crown prince known as m.b.s. there is nobody who has been tougher on saudi arabia and nobody more consistent on my criticisms of saudi arabia for a whole host of reason. i have been their loudest critic for good reason. i have called out saudi ara

they weren't classified like hillary clinton. they weren't deleted like hillary clinton.o service in the basement like hillary clinton had. you're talking about a whole different -- you're talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it's all in the presidential records. >> the legal defense is also that ivanka said she didn't know the rules. meanwhile, donald trump in a story that has extra resonance tonight called for hillary clinton to be jailed for her e-mail use. >> here she is all screwed up with her e-mails. she doesn't know what the hell is going on. just look at how she's botched up her e-mails. >> lock her up, lock her up, lock her up! >> who would be so stupid to do what she did with her e-mails? the investigation is the biggest political scandal since watergate. i think she should be in jail for what she did with her e-mails. >> attorney richard painer, served as white house ethics chief under bush 43, also ran as a democrat for senate. back with us as well, mira tannen, clinton's campaign adviser, who lived through much of this. richard, your response? >>

there was no deleting, like hillary clinton did.s no servers in the basement like hillary clinton had. you're talking about a whole different -- you're talking about all fake news. >> okay, well, it's not fake news. it happened. and there is unease about it on capitol hill from democrats and republicans. republican trey gowdy sending a letter to white house chief of staff john kelly for more information about ivanka's personal e-mail use. democratic congressman elijah cummings could be asking for a lot of this information. he says he is going to look into it. jeff zeleny is "outfront" now in west palm beach near the president's mar-a-lago resort. ivanka trump defending herself as well. her excuse, essentially, she didn't know. she didn't know this wasn't okay. >> reporter: erin, that is her excuse. good evening, and that's a statement from her lawyer, saying that, look, when she was making her transition into the white house, her transition into government, she started several months into 2017 and she wasn't as up to speed on all th

so has hillary clinton, right?yeah. >> many people feel that they're out of touch and that he really hasn't atoned for his part in what happened with monica lewinsky. do you think they're out of touch with the mood in the country? >> well, you know, i do think that he has not responded well, effectively or, you know, even kind of as compassionately as people would like to hear him do it. he has, i think, not matched the authenticity that monica lewinsky has demonstrated in the last several months on this issue. you know, i'd be surprised if they can get through this entire tour without him having to address it more thoroughly. >> that was a very good answer, a very honest answer. what do you think, scott? final thoughts. >> you know, i think hillary is right. i think that bill clinton has fallen short on this, and he's fallen short since the moment it happened all these years ago. i think if i were hillary clinton and i were serious about the next run, i wouldn't be on a book tour with him. i'd be on a book tour by

final thoughts. >> you know, i think hillary is right.ton has fallen short on this. and he's fallen short since the moment it happened all these years ago. i think if i were hillary clinton and i were serious about the next run, i wouldn't be on a book tour with him, i'd ob a book tour by myself saying, i'm out here speaking in my own voice, i don't need this guy. honestly, he's done some things that i don't like, he's handled some things in a way that i didn't like. to me, that's what people are craving. i think authenticity, a word hillary used, is the exact right word. people are craving that in our politics and she's probably better able to do that without him sitting next to her. i think if she's serious, she's going to break away from this guy at least as a public matter. >> we'll be right back. what?! -welcome. -[ gasps ] a bigger room?! -how many of you use car insurance? -oh. -well, what if i showed you this? -[ laughing ] ho-ho-ho! -wow. -it's a computer. -we compare rates to help you get the price and coverage that's right for

meaning hillary's server. let these terrible people go back to the clinton foundation and the justice department. still, president trump is letting the process play out. he told "the washington post" tonight he has no intention of stopping the investigation. the president's concerns are being echoed by legal scholars like alan dershowitz, who warned today about what mueller's true motives really are. let's take a look. >> mueller is not going to produce a neutral report. he is not going to be fair. he is going to produce what he believes is going to be a devastating attack. he is going to put together everything. he is going to use information from manafort and others without necessarily disclosing that there they are liars. the president's team has to be rea ready. >> this is what i have been saying from the get-go. the classic mueller, andrew weissman, pitbull tactics, using threats, coercion to get people to what we call test the lie. in other words, tell us what we want to hear. we are going to go easy on

and comey and we know hillary committed crimes. it is not even in dispute. >> given the president took no action has coverage on overboard. thunderous media condemnation for backing saudi arabia after his owns cia ordered the -- saver prince ordered the murder of jamal khashoggi. is he ignoring evidence the following past precedent in cooperating with a murderous regime? the next white house correspondents dinner, and offer, not a comedian because last year's train wreck. >> if a tree falls in the woods, how do we act kellyanne conway under that tree? i suggest to give her just steps. >> a safe choice gets the journalism dinner back on track. this is media buzz. ♪ >> a thanksgiving total began when a federal judge in san francisco where the ninth circuit court of appeals is based. to illegally's who cross the southern border. the president lashed out at the ninth circuit. >> you go to the ninth circuit and it is a disgrace and i will put in a major complaint because you cannot win if yes case in the ninth circuit. it is a disgrace,

they're not just focused on hillary clinton and jim comey.ve a whole department to execute as well. this kind of distraction and this kind of unqualified individual at the helm, it is really an incredibly troubling situation. >> how do you think, phil mudd, officials at the justice department will react to all of this? >> believe it or not, wolf, it is 48 hours before thanksgiving day and i'm giving thanks. it is a rare moment, run the videotape, where i'm thankful. look, the president squeezed the former attorney general jeff sessions to step away from the sessions' recusal on russia. sessions stood up with a backbone and said, mr. president, no. the president pressed the former fbi director james comey before comey was fired, please step away from the flynn investigation, the investigation into the former national security adviser, general flynn. the former fbi director said no. the president is now apparently pressing this -- or has pressed this fbi director to begin some investigations, and this fbi director would appropriately say no. wo

it just was a bogus issue about hillary clinton.ou know, i think they are acknowledging in a way that it's bogus for them too. >> what do you think the house oversight committee under democratic leadership might do with this issue? >> it's very possible they would call her in to testify or call others in to testify. i think to jeff's point he's right. i'm sure people do -- she's not the only one to do it. but at the end of the day one of the questions i have is why did it go on for so long? >> september 2017's a while. >> if it were february, the month after the inauguration, okay. but for eight months -- is it eight? eight, nine months. it's a lot. >> jeffrey toobin, anne milligram, thank you so much for being with us. appreciate it. may not be the last time we have this discussion. >>> next the white house backs down in its clash with cnn over holding the president accountable. so, let's talk about conference calls. there's always a certain amount of fumbling. a lot of times it doesn't work. we have problems. comcast business goes

hillary is used to it. >> here's what you wrote.will be quote strong, partisan, left leaning and all democrat, the one with guts, experience and steely-eyed determination to defeat mr. trump. and nothing that reminds me nothing stops you and penn from wagering money on this if you think she's going to win the nomination >> well, thanks for the tip, michael. maybe we will. >> "joe biden will never be able to take her on." why do you say that? >> i like joe biden and he has a lot of nice qualities as a person and he's got that working class background but he's never been able to run well in the democratic primaries when he's by himself. he tried many, many times and lost. i think hillary's a much more formidable candidate with her experience. >> do you think she was pleased or displeased to see what you published in the journal? i'm taking for granted you didn't get her approval? what codo you think her reaction was? >> i think she's got to be happy with it. i know hillary for a long time. she because at my son's bar mitzvah. i think

to hillary clinton in the first place.act that three years ago that this turned into a story within the media, within the elites in washington, d.c., they used it as an excuse to bludgeon hillary clinton and destroy her chances. that i argue was the original sin here. so the reaction is not, hey, let's go and treat ivanka with the same disregard and anger that we treated hillary clinton, let's go and apologize to what we did to hillary clinton three years ago. that's the more appropriate reaction. >> evan, you mentioned the hypocrisy of all of this, given how president trump just hammered hillary clinton during the campaign on her use of the e-mail server. is this more about hypocrisy or more about the substance that would be in these e-mails that ivanka trump wrote. >> we don't know what was in those e-mails. that's part of the problem. weep ne we need to find out what's there. i don't think weep shou should apologizing to hillary clinton. she set up a server in her basement to avoid having to disclose what she said in he

trying to find dirt on hillary clinton? according to leaked special counsel documents mueller is investigating communication between roger stone and jerome corsi including an e-mail on or about july 25, 2016, where person one, we know as roger stone, sent a message to jerome corsi who the suggest line, "get to the founder of organization 1." aka, wikileaks, julian assange. the body of the message red get to julian assange at the ecuadorian embassy and get the pending wikileaks e-mails. they deal with foundation, allegedly. so you heard assange, remember the d.n.c. leak before the convention, may have had more information. in this case on the clinton foundation. and they want to know what he has. roger clearly didn't know exactly what the e-mails contained in any way. in no way did he urge anyone to steal or hack the clinton campaign or john podesta e-mails. no evidence of that. jerome corsi flatly denies ever having contact with julian assange. in fact, he voluntarily handed over his computer and cell phone and access to e-

hillary clinton's former advisor says she is going to run again in 2020.e versus jessica, whose world? we will find out next, straight ahead. ♪ just one free hearing test at his local miracle ear helped andrew hear more of the joy in her voice. just one hearing test is all it took for him to hear more of her laugh... and less of the background noise around him. for helen, just one visit to her local miracle-ear is all it took to learn how she can share more moments with her daughter. just one free hearing test could help you hear more... laughter...music...life... call now for your free hearing test from an industry leader: miracle-ear. >> sean: i'm hearing today that hillary clinton may be gearing up for a 2,020 run. "the wall street journal" said hillary will run again. michelle obama said it's a good idea. not one shows, but two shows. and of course waters world, jesse watters. fox news contributor, and, i actually think if i'm donald trump, i'm saying run, run. i don't think she's going to win. they ran a terrible campaign the last time, and now they a

clinton backer, he's an obama backer, a hillary clinton supporter. he accuses him of engaging in actually does seem to work with some people. in other words, there are some in the president's orbit or base who hear mcraven is a hillary clinton backer or obama backer that diminishes him in the eyes of those supporters. this is former navy s.e.a.l. who headed the attack on bin laden that resulted in his death. >> the successful capture of osama bin laden after years of hard fought intelligence and with military tracking. this parts and parcel the president's assault on institutional forces of american society, whether it's the judiciary, congress, the media and of course the military. and i think what's unique when it comes to the military is i think career military officers and soldiers are almost willfully obedient to whoever is in the office. of course they have their own opinions, but i think they see their jobs as serving the country sometimes perhaps in a time of war. and they understand there's a chain of command they have to follow. so this ide

they had been here, hillary clinton, with hillary clinton, hillary is not there. trump's family and everybody involved in collusion, russia, everything spoke out well. do this and do this. and ignore what he is saying and doing. what is going on here? is this man controlling everybody in the united states now? this is just wrong. this is so terrible. >> the best advice i would give is don't be played by either side. both sides are throwing stuff into the air and the key is to look solely at what facts have been released in terms of criminal conduct. in fairness to donald trump there has been no finding directly linking him that i can see of a clear crime. that doesn't mean mueller can't do that. when you talk about people who may be apologists for trump or people on the other side accusing them of spin ultimately they don't matter. what matters is the special counsel and he is clearly driving hard. the last two weeks have shown mueller is trying to bag trump the only reason for these witnesses and conflict to come up is they didn't give him material on trump. you

their position on hillary clinton was, we don't really want to investigate her.e favor her over donald trump. you take the donald trump investigation and they are putting the screws to him, not just to find out what role russia had in the american election, but they are trying to prosecute donald trump himself, which is a far cry from the original charge that the mueller investigation had, what did russia do, what interest is attached, and who do they partner with? this is an attack group that will try to take on the president had on do the will of the american people from the 2016 election. >> lisa: is the scope to beg for robert mueller? >> i don't totally accept what was just said. there's a lot of room for questions about how these investigations got handled, agent peter strzok's role, some communications were devastating in terms of being politically oriented. at the end of the day, i don't have a complete loss of faith in mueller, in terms of his integrity. i think he's her investigation has been monitored closely by rod rosenstein. i think is an honorable

there was no deleting like hillary clinton did there was no service in the basement like hillary clintonyou are talking about a whole different -- you are talking about all fake news. >> lisa: he is not the only one coming to ivanka trump's defense. republican congressman mark meadows tweeting there are over 30,000 bleach bit reasons why hillary clinton's email scandal isn't even close to the ivanka email issue. ron johnson saying he is, quote: concerned and calling for official response by december 7th. while former assistant u.s. attorney andrew mccarthy had this to say. >> in this environment, particularly given how big an issue he made of mrs. clinton's use of private email to conduct official business, you have to wonder why anybody would do that. it's kind of an explosive thing at this point. >> lisa: congressman, should there be an investigation into this? >> sean: i don't know if there should be an investigation. i think it's foolish on behalf 6 ivanka trump to actually have a private email account when the whole race for the last presidential cycle was about hillary clinton's il

they weren't classified like hillary clinton. they weren't deleted like hillary clinton.he wasn't doing anything to hide her e-mails. you're talking about a whole different -- you're talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it's all in the presidential records, everything is there. there was no deletion, no nothing. what it is is a false story. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 e-mails. she had a server in the basement. that's the real story. >> "the washington post" revealed last night when ivanka trump was questioned about her use of a personal e-mail account, she said she was not familiar with some details of the rule, according to people with knowledge of her reaction. however, she may have violated the white house preservation act. this comes as word that jared kushner also used a personal e-mail to conduct government work as well. quote, fewer than 1,000 that pertained to schedule and travel are involved." you heard the president there who made quite an issue there trying to say there is no parallel there at all between hillary clinton and ivanka. what do you m

it was a bogus issue about hillary clinton.ey are acknowledging in a way that it is bogus for them. >> do you think the house oversight committee might do with the issue? >> it is very possible they would call her in to testify or call others in to testify. he is right. she is not the only one to do it. at the end of the day, one of the questions i have is why did it go on for so long. for eight months it's a law. >> thanks so much for being with us. may not be the last time we have the discussion. >> the white house backs down over the clash over holding the president accountable. who doesn't love a deal? i do. check out the united explorer card. savin' on this! savin' on this! savin' in here. rewarded! learn more at the explorer card dot com. >>> in a reversal the white house dropped plans to block jim acosta's access to the white house. then came word from the white house that the pass would be revoked. now they changed their minds. cnn has dropped the lawsuit. speaking of decorum, the president has been busy lately on the o

ran the war room where remember hillary -- the bimbo eruptions. her floozy, psycho, and a clinger. the me too movement meringued down the clintons and my children up to that. >> sean: jessica, last word? >> my last word is maybe donald trump could apologize to all the women he has taken advantage of. >> you mean miss usa? you gave those women lots of opportunities jessica, come on. he cherishes women! >> he does not cherish women. >> o sean: i tell you what. it's been a while since we had you on. for the first time ever, it's a tie. >> it's a tie? >> it's nobody's world. >> i want a recount. >> sean: [laughs] when we come back, rush limbaugh, an amazing take. what is really the w motivating factor behind the recount in florida? that's straight ahead. ♪ doug, doug! douglas! we're running dangerously low on beans. people love your beans, doug. they love 'em. doooooooooug! you want to go sell some tacos? progressive knows small business makes big demands. doug, where do we get a replacement chili pepper bulb? so we'll design the insurance solution th

hillary clinton had a server in the basement, ivanka didn't.t seems to me if that's your explanation, you're losing the argument it should have been abundantly clear to ivanka or anyone working in the trump administration or anywhere in the government, it was a bad idea to have a private e-mail system >> and yet she did it anyway it wasn't just her, jared kushner as well. early on others in the administration using their private e-mails early on donna, i mean am i reading this wrong? is there a generous way to read this you just really not know the rules or think it's okay to use a private server period? defend ivanka here. >> i'm not it's totally unbelievable that ivanka, close to the campaign, can come out or just watching television, can come out and not know the dangers of using a private e-mail and to say it's not on a private server is not entirely clear because it's on a public server, which could be worse. >> microsoft. >> yes she also said it wasn't deemed classified later until they did a review of it hillary clinton was secretary of

trump's use of personal e-mails to hillary's secret server. yesterday, rush limbaugh explained the difference between two. >> i'm not going to talk about ivanka trump's e-mail until it is proven that she created a secret e-mail server and put it in her home preferably in the bathroom, to hide a pay for play scheme. and then trying to destroy it when subpoenaed. i'm not going to talk about ivanka trump and her e-mails until somebody shows me that what she did got anywhere even close to what hillary clinton did. and hillary clinton has been gone rated. -- gone rateed. >> congressman mark meadows said the house gop plans on hearing testimony about the doj's investigation into alleged wrongdoing by the clinton foundation. joining me now with more is go fact chairman david ivella, former clinton pollster doug schoen and former press secretary for vice president pence mark lotter. good evening everyone. i find, you have to give rush limbaugh his due, that was pretty funny. not even going on talk about it until we prove there was a private server in

of course, hillary clinton was. that's a big difference. still, given the history, just very difficult to believe that ivanka trump's story is that she didn't know the rules. back to you. >> thanks very much. of course, the question of whether there was classified information there, arguably still an open question because hillary clinton denied there was classified information. >> and her lawyer saying there is not. but again, right, it was 110 classified hillary clinton e-mails. >> maybe there were references. we don't know. but there are two -- to be clear, let's say there is no classified information. that was one of the key issues with hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail. the presidential records act is another one here. do you need to have this stored on a private server for this to be a potential legal issue? just using the private e-mails, does that present possible legal issues for ivanka? >> so the two legal issues are the ones you identified. it is the classified information and was the presidential records act violated, rig

does ivanka have a problem like hillary did? >> she has a problem, but candidly not the same problem a hillary.rv i don't think private servers should be used, but i think rus missed the point. if it's a private server was used in the private address, an classified information as far a we can tell may well have gone to our enemies in ways that. >> with hillary. >> yes. >> don't question. >> and that is more serious tha anything alleged everywhere else . >> it was simply that of mongo was appointments with families in a family e-mail, but what doug is saying is accurate. first of all, she didn't delete any e-mails did she? >> no,n in fact our reports ar that she turned over all of her e-mails. and what we're seeing here, judge is the democrats are in the batters box. they're getting ready for an investigation investigation after investigation after investigation into the trump administration with the icing o the cake being an effort that will be made to try to impeach president trump. it's what they campaigned on. evil will say t

hillary clinton used it for all four years she served. according to people familiar with an internal review that began last year, trump's attorney found more than 1,000 e-mails that discussed her schedule. by comparison, clinton was determined that about 40,000 of clinton e-mails addressed official business and had to be turned over to the state department. another 31,000 e-mails after clinton determined they were pe pe personal. trump's attorney insists none of her e-mails contain classified information. on the other hand, the department concluded in some cases they were marked top secret. i want to bring in nbc's kristen welker at the white house. i'm going to start with this -- what? >> i think that's what a lot of democrats and republicans are asking, steph. bottom line, you have this group saying we need to know if there was classified information that was transmitted. they say that's the baseline. the height of this they say is this is typical. because of all the sound bites, trump lashing out at hillary clinton for using her person

was the dirt on hillary clinton forthcoming? ♪ >>> it was the email that set off a chain of events leading to the meeting. just a few sentences long, but every word subject to intense scrutiny and speculation. >> would you read it to us. >> sure. good morning. amon just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting. the crown prosecutor of russia met with his father this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with russia and would be very useful to your father. >> the father of course? then-candidate donald trump. and the email's author? an unlikely man to be in the center of what would become a political firestorm. rob goldstone sat down with nbc news' cynthia mcfadden to tell his story. >> you have been called a wide variety of names over the past year. useful idiot, dunce, clown, bonkers, puppet of the kremlin, sinister. any of that fit? >> i've been called much more than that as well.

come out about hillary. never came to fruition. he was asked about that as well. still unresolved is whether there will be a sitdown interview between robert mueller and the president. that has not been settled yet but sources close to the president do not believe that the now acting attorney general matt whitaker would ever approve such a subpoena for the president to sit down for an interview. >> so now that we have these reports that at some point trump wanted to prosecutor comey and clinton, jeff zeleny to you, how is the white house responding to all of this? >> the white house has not responded at all. the president has not responded at all. he's playing a round of golf here in west palm beach with jack nicholas and some family members. but they have not responded at all to this report, which is now almost 24 hours old about the fact that the president indeed wanted to prosecute his former rivals. this is something that of course if the president does not like a story or agree with it, they often push

they were not classified like hillary clinton. they were not deleted like hillary clinton, who deleted -- she wasn't doing anything to hide her emails. i looked at it just very briefly today, and the presidential records, they are all in presidential records. there was no hiding. there was no deleting like hillary clinton did. there were no servers in the basement, like hillary clinton had. you are talking about a whole different -- you are talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it is all in the presidential records. everything is there. there was no deletion, there was no nothing. what it is is a false story. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 emails. she had a server in the basement. that's the real story. >> what is your reaction to the fact that your asylum policy has been put on hold? pres. trump: which policy? >> your asylum policy has been put on hold. pres. trump: well, you go to the ninth circuit and it is a disgrace. and i'm going to put in a major complaint, because you cannot win, if you are us, a case in the nin

they weren't classified like hillary clinton, they weren't deleted like hillary clinton, who deletedwasn't doing anything to hide her e-mails. i looked at it just very briefly today and the presidential records, they're all in presidential records. there was no hiding. there was no deleting like hillary clinton did, there was no service in the basement like hillary clinton had. you're talking about a whole different -- you're talking about all fake news. so what ivanka did, it's all in the presidential records, everything is there. there was no deletion, there was no nothing. what it is is a false story. hillary clinton deleted 33,000 e-mails. she had a server in the basement. that's the real story. >> reporter: sir, sir! >> the which policy? >> reporter: your asylum policy has been put on hold. >> you go to the ninth circuit and it's a disgrace. i'm going to put in a major complaint. can you not win a case if you're news the ninth circuit. it's a disgrace when every case gets filed in the ninth circuit. that's not law. every case in the ninth circuit we get beaten and then we end up

why a former senior advisor to hillary clinton says hillary is running in 2020. we'll take it up.y with us. there's brushing...and there's oral-b power brushing. oral-b just cleans better. even my hygienist said going electric could lead to way cleaner teeth. and unlike sonicare, oral-b is the first electric toothbrush brand accepted by the ada. oral-b. brush like a pro. ... >> hillary clinton says she doesn't want to run for president for senior former advisers says don't listen to that. it is game on in 2020. mark and - lay out their opinion piece hillary will run again reinventing yourself as a double firebrand. but it will evenly capture the 2020 emanation. clinical power panel now democratic strategist and the daily signal, visiting fellow at the independent women's forum. thank you for joining us spent great to be here. >> it's the summer of 2015 all over again. is this real? >> no, it's not been people who almost made a career out of running against hillary clinton since 2016. same people who positive republicans would get control of the house. there's a level of detachment

guess what, i got dirt on hillary, you might win this after all. another point of conclusion, trump associates having advanced knowledge of the hacked e-mails. in a new story that jerome corsi rejected this deal, "the new york times" again reported mr. corsi's dealings have caused alarm among the president's legal team, specifically trump's lawyers were troubled bay same time that said corsi said roger stone who was in regular contact with senior members of the trump campaign including with the then-candidate donald trump asked corsi to get in touch with wikileaks. the reference suggests mueller has potential evidence that could draw a line from trump through corsi and stone to julian assange of wikileaks. nbc news is also reporting today that in his written testimony to mueller, the president did not ever receive or discuss wikileaks with roger stone. i have to go to "the new york times" with this one, michael. i always thought what he said it's podesta's time in the barrel, his gross way of describing bad news for podesta, that he isn't one of th