chris: the clintons. . >> one thing to think about with hillary clinton. she was on the cover of "look" magazine you guys will remember it. and the audience won't. that was in 1969. three years before she met bill clinton. my point in that being hillary clinton was ambitious. she had a sense of her trajectory. and other people who looked at her, similarly had a sense of her trajectory and her destiny. decades ago. somebody like that, i don't think gets to a certain age and says you know what? i'm done. time to coast. if she sees an opportunity she will take it. chris: put this all together. i'm not her advisor but i would say with kathleen said and what we're saying it all fits together. take year off. just relax. get in shape. enjoy life. get some fresh air. get all this office out of your head. >> yeah. chris: and then decide. that's a pretty reasonable thing to do. >> well, i suspect that's what she has in mind. chris: dan? >> well, one, i don't think it's better for hillary clinton's chances if she wants to run in 2016 that obama loses. i might be in th

profile. >> we have a story on hillary clinton as well.online today and in the magazine sunday. one of the themes we go into in some depth is her relationship with obama and the surprise that a lot of people had of just how well she's worked as being a real servant of the administration, not sort of -- it's one of those sort of sub terrainian kind of things. whatever conflicts they have, she has not made people aware of them. >> there is certainly no surface ripples. susan, you write much to the same point, no one asserts that clinton and obama have forged more than a solid professional relationship. if there's an inner circle of obama decision making, she's not in it. when i asked mcdonnough to characterize the difference, she's really the principal inner maker. >> i'm glad you chose to highlight that. i do think that really speaks to perhaps not any kind of big dramatic fireworks of the type we might have expected several years ago, but there really is a tension that still exists and i thought that that quote was very interesting when he

good for democrats, he's not in some way trying to, you know, hold back or carry out a plot with hillary clintonsn't suggesting that. >> i know you weren't, but some people have. they tend to imagine that bill clinton is much more machiavellian than he really is. >> ed rendell on cbs with charlie rose, did compare hillary clinton to barack obama, in the way they would each deal with congress. let me play a bit of that from today. >> i think she would have come in with a lot more executive experience. i think the president was hurt by being a legislator only, for example, health care and stimulus, two bills i think did good things for the american people, too much of it was left up to the congress. he sort of said here's my concept, you guys flesh it out. i think hillary clinton would have sent them a bill and said here's what i want. >> so that's ed rendell. he has a new book, "a nation of wusses." he speaks his mind. there's no question what example he came from originally, which was the clinton camp. that is what a lot of people say, that hillary clinton had those legislative stills that we're

how big a step was it for hillary clinton to come out and say that publicly? >> i think it was quite a big step. it has a lot of potential ramifications going down the line. maybe even leading to some sort of no-fly zone. that's speculation. but if you extrapolate it out there's a possibility of setting down markers, saying syria is not allowed to use aircraft any more. but trying to embarrass russia, trying to pressure russia, trying to make russia look even more isolated, ahead of meetings between president obama and the russians coming up, i think is quite significant. the syrians are starting to wobble, i've been told. the syrian government is getting weaker and it's struggling to move its armed forces around the country. having helicopters alleviates that problem. you don't need a large helicopter corps with few dozen helicopters and a few dozen pilots, you can inflict a tremendous amount of punishment on centers and killing civilians at the same time. and i think the united states doesn't want syria to have its arsenal at its command. >> with russia and

. >>> plus hillary clinton gets into costume during a swearing-in ceremony. we'll tell you what's going on here later in the show. first, before we get to the news here at 30 rock in new york city, almost two years ago lebron james made the decision to bring his talents to south beach. now he's brought south beach an nba title. the heat routed the thunder last night 121-106 to claim their first nba title since 2006. lebron was masterful. notching his first triple-double of the year on the way to being the most valuable player of the finals. the outcome was total vindication for lebron james and the heat who were maligned for their lackluster finals performance last season. we will have full highlights for you later in sports. >>> but first, we have some breaking news. a standoff at a hotel in kabul, afghanistan this morning has left at least 17 people dead. most of them civilians. after the taliban took hostages, dozens of people hostage. local police took back the hotel, rescuing at least 20 guests and killing five gunmen. according to reports, attackers wer

max, fill us in on hillary clinton's message. is exasperated with the russians. >> yes, she is, and that is the big difference to the intervention in libya one year ago. this time, there seems to be no chance of convincing the russians to go further, to go beyond what they already have in the security council. they have backed the peace plan, but they seem unwilling to use their influence over syrian president assad to up the pressure and to stop the violence. that is what many here think would be the only possibility of changing things on the ground except for military intervention. >> at the same time, military intervention -- hillary clinton has been very clearly ruling that out at this point. >> that is right. one of the reasons is is an election year and the public here is very tired of wars. they were not especially enthusiastic about the intervention in libya, although it is judged a success looking back. but they are less enthusiastic about an intervention in syria. the u.s. have good reasons not to go there. the secretar

and that was hillary clinton.obama didn't have any of that experience and, frankly, it is showing. >> i'm sorry, the last time hillary clinton put forward as governor rendell talked about a legislative proposal on health care, now, whens that that? what, '93, 94? what happened in 94 as a result of the clinton push on healthcare, number one, it didn't pass and, number two, every democrat in this country got massacred in the republic revolution. so, governor rendell makes a good point. she did have, i'm not sure what her executive experience was other than being a legislature just like barack obama. however, i think -- getting in this i didn't think -- ying and yang is wrong. what we have are peoplenned aagree perhaps valid criticisms when the republicans don't do. more importantly, this coming today. i'm hearing optimism, seeing states gel and by the way if you looked at the exit polls in the wisconsin special election, many of the people that voted for in recall said they would vote for barack obama and he clearly

hillary clinton begins a tour of the caucuses, their cease-fire is increasingly fragile. we're in neighboring georgia. he told us about the purpose of mrs. clinton's visit. >> one of the main problems facing armenia is this conflict with azerbaijan, which, as you mentioned, comes from the war, and that war killed 30,000 people and left a million displaced. so there are real hopes that hillary clinton will talk to the leaders of armenia and azerbaijan and try to get them back to the negotiating table, because peace talks have failed. there are constant cease-fire violations between the two countries, and there are real worries that if fighting breaks out, it could be worse than ever, because there's a very expensive arms process going on between the two. so far, neither side has been willing to compromise, so there's hope that if hillary clinton can get them both to talk about peace talks, or, very very least, tone down the rhetoric, which is really making the situation even worse. >> if he ends up in the georgian capital, what's the point of that particular stopover? >> w

hillary clinton talking about helicopters. helicopters being used in syria to crack down on the opposition. today, the french foreign minister going out further than any world power, saying that a no-fly zone should be something that is under consideration and that specifically refers to helicopters and other aircraft. i think you have to go back and think about what happened in iraq in 1991 after the war there. saddam hussein was able to use helicopters to kill about 100,000 people and helicopters can be very devastating, and if you start to see more helicopters in use, more aircraft in use killing large numbers of civilians, now that you have france talking about it, a no-fly zone, hillary clinton talking about it, it could be a changed dynamic, maybe even a no-fly zone. >> the no-fly zone of course was used with great effect by nato in libya but has not before this been discussed in terms of syria. everyone said -- >> no. >> -- the situation in syria was very different. >> reporter: everyone talked about it being different.

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he was a hillary clinton supporter, the former governor. i wonder if in light of president obama going off the reservation on the tax cut issues, which he has dialed back, i wonder if that was liberating? >> i think a lot of democrats, there has been more opportunity to not agree with everything that has happened. as public opinion polls sour on the president, it's tempting if you supported someone else before to say, you know, it may not have been so bad if i had gotten my way a couple ever years ago. >> greta: early june. november is a distance off. a lot can happen between now and then f. however, this is not a particularly good seven or eight days for president obama. >> june has been a terrible stretch. the bad economic news a week ago. you extend it to the clinton and now the rendell comments and the results in wisconsin and the news that mitt romney out-fund-raised president obam a. this is a difficult stretch. there is going to be ups and downs. but right now, this is a real down for the obama campaign. they cannot buy a break. >> g

biggest slap in the face, between -- this week, between clinton saying that and him promoting hillary clintonting his book. >> give it a rest, joe! >> go buy it. [overlapping dialogue] something's going on here. the question is, is bill clinton doing it because he really thinks -- what? >> rendell's a disaffected guy. disillusioned by this president. bill clinton was never enamored of this president. so he's got a reason, whatever his reason is at this point, to say what he's saying it. he is not saying this three days before the election. a lot will be forgotten. the positive things, he is saying so many negative things, they will be spit back before the election, if he gets out there in this campaign. >> sean: there is a couple of theories out there. one is that he wants hillary to run in 2016. i don't think that's the reason. i think -- i have talked to people who have spoken to bill clinton and they tell me that bill clinton thinks that barack obama is in way over his head. he has done a horrible job, that he is rigidly radical and i think he fears another four years of him. could that be

and virtually all democrats and liberals agreed with hillary clinton then and were completely opposed mandate. the chafee bill never had more than 18 republican co-sponsors in the senate. that's 18 out of 43 republicans at the time, a minority of a minority of republicans supported the chafee bill. a minority of that minority actually understood that there was an individual mandate in it. and as soon as we started having hearings in the senate finance committee about health care reform in 1994. the republicans started running away from the individual mandate. bob dole was a supporter of john chafee's individual mandate in 1993 and an opponent of it months later in 1994. no republican, not even john chafee, ever voted for the individual mandate, because the republicans never even attempted to bring it to a vote. very few republicans had a very brief crush on the individual mandate and that was the end of that, back in the spring of 1994. after condemning it as evil, an idea -- just as evil an idea as anyone could imagine in health care reform in 1993 and 1994, hillary clinton then embr

that's ed cline current clinton basher on fox radio yesterday discussing hillary clinton run runninglooked, we didn't judge people by their looks. back with me is christine pelosi and duf sundheim the chair of the republican party during arnold schwarzenegger. am i being oversensitive. >> this is d-day. she's in istanbul trying to solve the problem in syria where we found out there was normas kerr with dozens of people killed. that's what she's doing. she's doing really god's work. >> on our behalf. >> it's so important. that's what matters. you can see why people would try to intimidate her by saying, oh, you look fat. you know what big deal. she's saving the world right now now,. >> duf, what do you think? >> men never benefit by commenting on women's weight. there is no upside for that. but she is doing a great job. the problem is if you you do based on what obama said we would be doing in terms of foreign affairs, you have to term her a failure because we failed to do that in iran, north carolina. and i agree she would be a great candidate in 2016. >> i do, too. right on. >> i bl

damien is in neighboring georgia and he told us about the purpose of hillary clinton's visit. >> one of the main problems facing armenia is the conflict with azerbaijan, which comes from the war in the early 1990's that killed 30,000 people and left 1 million displaced. there are real hopes that hillary clinton will talk the leaders of armenia and azerbaijan on wednesday and get them back to the negotiating table. peace talks have failed. there are constant cease-fire violations along the border between the two countries. there are real worries that if fighting breaks out, it could be worse than ever because of of this parishes. neither side has been willing to compromise so far. it is hoped that if hillary clinton can get them to talk about peace or at least to tone down the rhetoric, which is making things worse. what's vietnam has agreed to open three new sites to american teams searching for the remains of servicemen missing since the vietnam war. the u.s. defense secretary leon panetta said the two countries have taken important steps to improve their relationship during talks i

it could get there overtime and one thing hillary clinton talked about to the international community in turkey this week was trying to find ways to make the opposition more effective but trying to figure out who the opposition is, who they get weapons to what effect and what happens to the weapons if they are successful, those are hard prop sessions to work there. >>shepard: it sounds like we don't know much about this rebel opposition group or about its leadership or the structure thereof. and i guess there are concerns that if you arm them things could get worse. >>guest: you have to understand this is a proxy battle going on under the surface. you have the peaceful protests that start off peacefully 16 months ago and now are on the verge several war. but, under the surface you have a proxy war between saudi arabia and iran. you have opposition but they are not necessarily unified. and so this is something that makes it far more difficult to work through not for the international community or the united states, to pick the winners ands therers which is why you have to wait for the

at the end of the conference, by that time first lady hillary clinton gives a talk. how did it go down and what was the impact of what did she say? >> for me, it was a trance formative moment because as an american woman i was thinking, ok, what can i do and how can i be part of the solution? i found out for the first time about the issue of human trapping, and mike larose finance and how it was transforming southeast asia -- human trafficking and micro financing. it was good to see her speaking out so boldly. and i felt like in that speech she somehow captured every single conversation i had had with women in a little tents and in the rain and in cafes, when i met there. she took the issues to the world stage. the issues nobody was talking about. it was not popular back then to talk about those issues. i realized at that moment that here was a woman who recognize that she had voice and power and a platform to speak as the first lady of the united states. i don't know if you remember, but it was very critical -- political whether she would go or not and she went. whe

if you listen to hillary clinton speak, she maintains really that sense of primacy. dates back to the clinton administration talking about the indispensable nation and so on. obama gives speeches that are quite intriguing that say you know, we have help underwrite global security for the last six decades, sometimes without thks. and that perct tense inhere kind ofsuggts that maybe we won't always be the world's leader. >> rose: richard holbrook wrote a chapter on him. what is it you want us to know. >> how tragic it was, that he really didn't fit in with the obama team, that they, he never had the scope to do what he wanted but in addition, that there was a generational conflict there as well. that he really, he saw himself as the central figure in afghanistan and other people in the administration, and then including the president didn't. and really it was just not a good fit. so actually, i mean i had people say, we had a meeting on afghanistan and holbrook came in and began talking about vietnam and finally we were all rolling our eyes. i had the u.s. ambassador t

it was those who thought the title us always missed when hillary clinton. state secretary hillary clinton has said there russia is supporting the assad regime in syria. and therefore is the critic it is preventing political change in that country madam chancellor do you share that criticism and mr putin do you think it is justified or do do you believe that in case a the kofi annan plan fails russia would be able to agree to sanctions against syria in the security council we have discussed the situation in syria today with mr putin. and as far as thoughts outside the situation there is concerned our assessment. is similar and the situation is dire in that country right now and i have the impression that nobody actually is interested in a civil war in that campaign and therefore we must do everything in our capacity to prevent a civil war and each and everybody should make their contribution become we must emphasize a political decision a political solution for syria and we must discuss how we can work with the united nations framework. that. plan does not g

but american secretary of state hillary clinton has sparked a war of words with her russian counterpart sergei lavrov after accusing moscow of selling attack helicopters to president assad something not even the pentagon seems to know anything about well. as more on the diplomats fiery exchange. while the top top u.n. official may have labeled the syrian conflict a full fledged civil war according to the u.s. secretary of state russia could actually be to blame for the escalating crisis secretary of state hillary clinton to raise some eyebrows and started some diplomatic controversy on tuesday when she insisted that russian attack helicopters were on their way to syria take a look we have confronted the russians about stopping their continued arms shipments to to syria and we are concerned about the latest information we have that there are attack helicopters on the way from russia to syria now washington seem to be caught off guard by a secretary of state hillary clinton's remarks in which stumped even the pentagon's own spokesman can you provide any details as to what kind of helicopt

i would say ed was misremembering history a little bit there. >> yes. >> that's exactly what hillary clintonand one of the reasons that president obama tried to get the congress to do more was because he was trying to learn from the mistake in the clinton administration on health care. look, this is not what's going to win the election or lose the election. this is silliness. what's going to win the election is this -- if president obama successfully tags romney with somebody you can't trust on the economy, which they believe, and if he manages to push that message, he wins. if mitt romney successfully tags obama with he mismanaged the economy, then romney wins. i think the president's got to continue on the line that he's taking. you cannot trust mitt romney to care about you, and most people believe in fact that mitt romney doesn't care about them. that's the line you've got to stick to. and all this other stuff is fluff and it's because it's the summer and there's not enough going on. after the turn in september, you won't hear much of this stuff any more because people won't write about

. >> you supported hillary clinton strongly -- >> sure. >> you think we would be in a different place if she had been elected? >> i think she would have come in with a lot more executive experience. the president was a legislator only, health care and stimulus, two bills i think did good things for the american people. too much was left up to the congress. he said, here's my concept septs, you flesh it out. i think that hillary clinton would have sent them a bill and said, here's what i want. >> will all the off-message remarks hurt the obama campaign. rick klein is here. it looks like former governor ed rendell has gone off the reservation a bit? >> something liberating about being a former governor, not having to face the voters, you don't have to answer to the obama campaign message. >> this is stunning. i am actually viseed that governor rendell did that. he has been an outspoken man with his own mind. but this was, i guess this was bolder and sharper than i expected. >> a couple of thoughts. he is trying to sell a book t. helps to say controversial thing when you are doing