hillary clinton had some documents that had classified markings. donald trump had over 100 documents that went to our most core national security issues. second of all, there's just the willful disobedience and obstruction by donald trump. the fact that he lied. this is the second half of the indictment, that he lied to his lawyers to get them to lie to doj and the grand jury. so i don't necessarily agree that what hillary clinton did could not have been charged by any reasonable prosecutor but i certainly believe that what trump did was worse. - do you think for the layman who is just hearing the basics of each of these cases- - yeah. - it is easily confusable? - i do. i do understand the argument. i don't agree but i understand the argument that these cases are all somewhat similar and they are, they're similar but they're not the same. - yeah. - all these cases, trump, hillary clinton, bidenpence, they all involve classified documents. they're all similar in that respect but again, they're not the same and the prosutor's job is to drill into the

and what was said about hillary clinton, because if he is hungry at anybody, he can be angry ry -- i mean, gave the election to donald trump ten days beforehand. it was donald trump's doj that decided not to prosecute hillary clinton as well. they concluded there was no evidence. this is about the hillary clinton indictment, but they concluded there's no evidence of emails intentionally deleted by clinton's lawyers, and if anything -- was it the state of justice -- >> justice. >> yeah, even better. if anything, there was evidence of a conscience effort to avoid sending classified information by writing around the most sensitive material. after the obama justice department decided not to prosecute, and the trump justice department decided not to prosecute is because unlike donald trump with nuclear secrets near toilets and near where they are playing poker, and unlike that, hillary clinton went out of her way not to discuss any classified information on the emails. >> none of that matters to a certain group of people, it's bleached server, hillary -- >> the truth will win out.

there are not classified documents that hillary clinton had that she destroyed. i am right here on planet earth. host: palmetto, georgia, monica is a democratic caller. caller: hi. my question is, republicans are running away with this narrative that hillary clinton destroyed documents and busted up cell phones with a hammer. can you respond to that? is that really true? i mean, you know, is it true? we cannot let these republicans run away with this narrative. guest: thank you. you are correct. she did not destroy with a hammer cell phones. that is another one of these conspiracy theories that is out there that is not true. were there emails that were deleted? yes, they were. but an investigation done by the trump administration found that those were not intentionally deleted to subvert a subpoena and they were not classified documents. at the end of the day trump was not indicted by his peers but by other americans for the boxes and boxes of documents he had. he had 31 counts of indictments for classi

hillary clinton should be held -- you think hillary clinton should be held to a higher standard, so you must also agree, therefore, that donald trump should be held to that same high standard. >> but that is not the standard because under hillary clinton, she was let go, she was not indicted, she had classified documents on her server, they tried to obstruct it and she was able to walk away. if that is the standard, then you have mike pence with classified documents in his home and joe biden had classified documents spread across the country, different boxes including unsecured in his garage, if trump is going to be indicted so too should be joe biden. i also can't get beyond the fact that every time we find corruption and evidence of corruption on joe biden, donald trump gets indicted, i mean, that is what i see just as in everyday american, as someone who has not seen eye to eye with donald trump, and that is how we operate? i don't think it is the right way and i think it is shameful what is happening today. >> norah: congresswoman, i understand you represent the first district of so

was hillary clinton treated differently? we just played james comey. 110 e-mails, 52 e-mail chains, eight of the chains top-secret. 36 secret, eight confidential but no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute. may i add, that is only 30,000 e-mails. that does not include the 33,000. he said in that same speech we were not able to see any intent. was their intent when hillary clinton use bleach bit to delete e-mails? was their intent to obstruct when they destroy devices? >> of course every case is different on its facts. that's why the special prosecutor should have been appointed. >> i am asking a very specific question. comey said there was no intent. >> i agree with you. that's why there should have been a comparative. there shouldn't have been assigned to investigate one person. they should have investigated hillary clinton, president biden, pence, sandy berger. and then come to an assessment. comparing the cases and comparing the facts. then we would be in a better position. he had the chutzpah to say there is one law and

nothing like that was in hillary clinton's 30,000 emails. it is up to republicans to explain this to republicans that this is not apples and apples. there are fundamental material differences between the content of these email cases, not the least of which joe biden admitted that he found them on accident. he didn't spend 18 months moving them around the country evading justice. this is not the media's fault. we're telling it right now. you guys are telling it right now. we're trying to unpack it for the audience. there are fundamental differences. and the leadership of the republican party -- people like chris sununu, who by the way, represents the more sane wing of the republican party right now, it is on people like him and chris christie and larry hogan and charlie baker, the folks who have stood up to the extreme party, blue state republicans, that can speak broadly to independents and to a broad swath of americans to explain what is going on. >> i was crawling out of my skin during that entire interview because chris sununu is, as marg

investigation had no credible the fbi knew at the outset that it was all phony and made up invented by hillary clinton. >> so you're seeing dual system of justice here, selective prosecution. it wasn't just clinton who wasn't prosecuted. >> you've got james comey himself who wasn't prosecuted. >> he stole fbi documents when he was fired, one of which was classified that he leaked to his own attorneys who were not cleared for that information. was his home ever raided? was he ever indicted? that. of course he wasn't. same thing with bill clinton. >> he had all of those tapes as president trump outline in his speech tonight. >> was his home raided? no. the department justice defended bill clinton in front of a federal judge and said he has a right under the presidential records act to have those documents, including classified material. so trump's defense is going to be they'll file several motions challenging the indictment. they'll argue that the governing law is the presidential records act, which supplants a general statute such as the espionage act. all right. last, matt whitaker, we only have a se

nothing like that was in hillary clinton's 30,000 emails. it is up to republicans to explain this to republicans that this is not apples and apples. there are fundamental material differences between the content of these email cases, not the least of which joe biden admitted that he found them on accident. he didn't spend 18 months moving them around the country evading justice. this is not the media's fault. we're telling it right now. you guys are telling it right now. we're trying to unpack it for the audience. there are fundamental differences. and the leadership of the republican party -- people like chris sununu, who by the way, represents the more sane wing of the republican party right now, it is on people like him and chris christie and larry hogan and charlie baker, the folks who have stood up to the extreme party, blue state republicans, that can speak broadly to independents and to a broad swath of americans to explain what is going on. >> i was crawling out of my skin during that entire interview because chris sununu is, as marg

the same jim comey did not go after hillary clinton. in fact, he created a new standard called the reasonable prosecutor standard. he said even though there is evidence of wrongdoing under the law with hillary clinton with 33,000 e-mails, a reasonable prosecutor would not pursue this. under jim comey standards, a reasonable prosecutor would have to prove donald trump violated the law and this should be brought because it was so egregious that it is worth indicting a presidential candidate, perhaps a nominee of the republican party that meets the high standard. we haven't seen the indictment, but that's a very high standard, sean. >> yeah. let's get your take, tammy. >> i will never forget the few days after the midterms last year, joe biden at a live press conference statement asked about the fact that trump had made some hint that he might run again. joe biden stated that he would make sure that donald trump would not take power. he said specifically, we just have to demonstrate that he will not take power. if he does run, making sure

server. >> what he did is very similar in my view to what hillary clinton did. the clinton case took a hammer to a blackberry and destroyed it. >> you had secretary clinton who had classified material on a server. she was not president of the united states, she was secretary clinton. you have that happen. nothing happens to her. >> you know the facts. what are the facts? >> dana, as you know, cases come down to facts and evidence, not politics. and these two cases could not be more different on the facts. so let's talk about what we actually found in the hillary clinton email case. yes, hillary clinton maintained private servers. emails went across the servers. ultimately she returned 30,000 emails to the department of defense, work-related emails. in addition we found thousands more emails that she exchanged with people. the total classified materials seized from that review were essentially 55 email conversations, strings of emails, in which eight were classified top secret, 37 secret, and 10 confidential. it's important to remember those weren't classified doc

behind the scenes, hillary clinton is left in this weird position of, "how do i explain this?" ntially advising her to play it cool. that is hard for her, but she does it effectively. [hillary] when i hear something like that, i am reminded of what my friend, michelle obama, advised us all. when they go low, you go high. it was baked in that donald trump was a reality star who had three wives, who did all kinds of things that ended up in the tabloids. they knew that. the fact that he took that to the next level, we were all shocked that he did that in the moment. but in retrospect, i don't know why we were shocked. back in the 1970s, i worked for the children's defense fund and i was taking on discrimination against african-american kids in schools. he was getting sued by the justice department for racial discrimination in his apartment buildings. clinton was tougher in the debates than trump's opponents in the republican side. and she won those three debates by conventional measure, easily. the nastiest presidential campaign in our lifetimes has finally come to an end. more tha

this respect is all that hillary clinton has for moussa and his apparent wife.utiful and raised to the army of egypt it is given in order to forget the previous styles and make the people forget the past. this is the order of the american embassy. the summer of morsi's presidency is not over . in disbelief, it will end in a military coup that is coordinated with the united states, saudi arabia, and musa, who is also the head of the famous egyptian cage. they bring a nightmare that is unbelievable for the muslim brotherhood and many in egypt, but the reality is that many people were shocked and do not understand what happened within a year. he had done it, but he was far away i trust that the egyptian military will see the same as before 2010. the new radiator will enter the show battle. they will be deprived. the only president of egypt who was elected after a free election is in a cage in the middle of the court while iran is angry and confused . they will die a few months later. it is also called mohammad mousavi and it goes back to the era of hosni mubarak. h

bracelet. >> he accepts the republican nomination while that same jim comey did not go after hillary clinton. >> and in fact n g, created a ne standard. >> it's called the reasonable prosecutor standaralled thd. e >> and he said even though there's evidence of wrongdoing under the law with clinton or 33,000 emails, a reasonable, reasonable prosecutor would not pursue this. so under jim comey, standardoset a reasonable prosecutor would have to prove donald trump, violate the law. and this should be brought because it was so egregious that it is worth indicting a presidential candidate. perhapt iss the nominee of party the republican party. it meets that high of a standard we haven't seenn then the indictment, but boy, that's , sean.high standard yeah, let's get your take, y. i wil well, i will never forget the few days after the midterms yest year, joe biden at a live press conference statement, asked about the fact that abo trump had madeut some hint thath he might run again, joe biden stated, that he would make sure that donald trump would not take power. hed trum said specifically. >> we j

jack smith brought up hillary clinton. hume did not bring her up, i did not bring her up, jack smith included that in the indictment. is that relevant how the bureau and department treated hillary clinton versus donald trump in a trial? will a jury ever get to hear about the disparate treatment because, look, like o.j. simpson, the police can frame a guilty person, both of those can be true. the police framed you and you were guilty, i will be curious what a jury does with that. >> you have covered washington for a long time. a lot of presidential campaigns. have you ever seen a moment like this? >> never. this is truly unprecedented. i've never seen anything quite like it. let's keep in mind, shannon, arguing that this indictment or even a conviction would not prevent the supporters from standing by him. if he wants to be elected president again, he will need a lot of people that did not vote for him the last time around, they voted for joe biden. in any real world that you can imagine what people in light of this and all

morsi is completely happy that the plane of the american foreign minister has landed in cairo and hillary clinton is one of his first guests in cairo . he has no doubt that he can build egypt with the help of america and move forward . and the embassy of this country in miser is optimistic, and for this, the american support for the revolution is coming, and i thank the presidency , hillary clinton and morsi, there is a warm atmosphere, and the american embassy is shaping a new story in egypt. military and security officials have come to this embassy a lot these days but no one cares about these next developments, as if the happy days of the egyptian people continue and the past will repeat itself. the star of iqbal musa will be blackened with these cries and fires. it has not been achieved and morsi humiliates his critics and calls them illiterate, ignorant and identityless. now people are coming to the streets again. the egyptian military forces are still under the support of the united states. and went to many meetings between the two military troops will be held at the american embassy, ​​the

you talk about hillary clinton, hillary clinton case so obvious. not even a president or a vice president. the presidential records act does not apply to her. if you are apply anything st is espionage act and that does not apply, but okay, fine. they didn't investigate her for obstruction. even though they destroyed her past cell phones with hammers, have you tried that. so they never investigated her, or obstruction or perjury even though there were existi exist. >> she gets away scot-free. no s.w.a.t. team, why? bill clinton and the socks case for years he is recording and top-secret international stock keep it for a book to write. and his legacy and that, keeps in his socks draw, leaving presidency, take its with him. take its all with him. nobody charged him with violating espionage actor thought about it. so what happened? judicial watch walks in said under foia freedom of information act to national archives, get those tapes, goes in front of a judge, away liftist, she went after stone. and what does he rule? i can't do anything. my hands are

he named an attorney involved with hillary clinton he did a great job you know what? he said that it was him, that he was the one who deleted all of her emails. the 30,000 emails because they basically dealt with her scheduling and going to the gym and having beauty appointments. he was great and he, so she didn't get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them. and the filing goes on to say that he told that multiple times that day. what was the message to be to his legal team. the allegations are that he did eventually try to persuade them to present information to the doj that was not accurate. that was false. those are the counts. part of them. >> rich: jonathan, we have heard so much about hillary clinton the joe biden all being in possession of classified material. is there a difference about this case? >> first of all, there is a legitimate objection to how the department of justice has handled past investigations against people like hillary clinton. there are many people that believe that she should have been charged. but, each case sta

, former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe defending hillary clinton handling classified material saying should not be compared to trump documents. >> watch this. >> we have clinton case steshl, 113 email conversations, 8 top secret documents 37 secret not documents, content that was judged at that level none of that was actual documents, bearing headers-footers classified stamps simple content of conversations that implicated information should have been classified at that level. will have. maria: what is this guy talkingings about? liz: trying to or obscure the fact, the fact is not only was her personal server unauthorized, james comey went to great lengths to explain vulnerable as documents can be apparently photographed and stolen, whatever, from a garage, as well as from a bathroom at mar-a-lago so can emails that can i classified information be hacked, so there is no difference here mar, i mean for this guy to makes distinction between documents, and edocuments, if you will, is completely bogus, in this 21st century. >> don't forget sitting attorney general loretta lich tol

it wasn't appropriate for hillary clinton to do what she did.iden to have documents on the garage floor. >> they are saying joe biden had classified documents. hillary clinton did. they mishandled them. that part is true. but what part is not comparable? >> there's some key differences here. biden or vice president pence, when this came up, they were asked to look for documents. they sent people to look. when they found them, they called the fbi. the fbi did a search in biden's summer home in rehoboth. there was no allegation of hiding, obstruction, of moving things around. those are simple case. you're looking for intent. the hillary clinton discussion is more worthy and more complicated. here's the differences. in hillary clinton's case, she was using a private e-mail server because she wanted to avoid the freedom of information act and personal information and communication coming out. she conducted a lot of state department business there. after going through 30,000 e-mails, the fbi found 52 e-mail chains. >> let me stop you there. she delet

stuart: that's the last we will say about hillary clinton in this hour. thanks for bringing it up. involved in multiple legal battles right now. regardless of the final verdict, you will be tied up in court for years. some republicans are starting to pull away from him worried about the legal circus that will stretch on a couple of years. are you pulling away from trump at all? >> i'm not pulling away, i talked to him yesterday. he was a good spirit although not happy with this foolishness and i think the operative word you used is circus because it's what this is. he talked about alvin bragg stupidity going on in manhattan, we know it dumb and irrational and political. this is serious, you're talking about sending a 76-year-old man to jail basically to die in jail because he had documents at his house and he's a former president. guess what, every former president has documents, they've all taken hiake with them over a five-year period. that is the law, they are allowed to do that so for the department of justice and biden white house and i will say for them to criminalize this an

correct. >> russia did so through a social media campaign that favored donald trump and disparaged hillary clinton, correct? >> that's what the report says, yes. >> mueller found that a russian intelligence service hacked computers associated with clinton campaign and released the stolen documents publicly. >> the report speaks for itself as well. >> mueller also report evidence that though he could not establish the crime of conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt he said, quote, a statement that the investigation did not establish certain facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts. that also appears in the report, doesn't it? >> there is language to that effect. >> you cited that in your own report as a way of distinguishing between proof beyond a reasonable doubt. >> correct. >> both mueller and congressional investigations found paul manafort was secretly meeting with an operative linked to russian intelligence. correct? >> that's my understanding, yes. >> man fort, while chairman of the trump campaign, gave that russian intelligence operative the campaign's internal polling data, c

they've brought up the case of hillary clinton. you've been looking at.ive us a sense of the apples and oranges or apples and apples. >> what strikes me i think the special counsel jack smith specifically charged willful retention of national defense information in an effort to sort of blunt criticism that these cases may be the same. if you go back to the summer of 2016, then fbi director james comey said that they found multiple e-mail chains on hillary clinton's private server that she used for government business, that contained highly classified information, including the special access programs that we just discussed, but in his view, it should not be charged because he didn't feel there was sufficient evidence of intent or willfulness. critics would say even just purchasing the server was an example of intent. and then finally, you have to look at just the scope of the information and also the timeline. but i think this charging of willful retention is really by design. >> the facts of the case different but thank you so much for that and for all y

, although we know even from the indictment itself that trump was thinking about the hillary clinton case quite a bit and the indictment he's alleged to have mentioned a lawyer for hillary clinton who helped destroy 30 plus thousand of her emails. so look, the fact is, in 2016, right after the july 4th weekend, fbi put its thumb and the scale in favor of hillary clinton, saying that she would not be further investigated, she would not be charged. if anybody remembers that, james comey, then the director of the fbi he was not the person who should have done it but he did the news conference and spent a long time talking about how guilty she was and then said at the end but we are not going to prosecute. so, this does drive democrats crazy, they call it what aboutism, but it is in fact a precedent, not an exact precedent. as far as what trump is doing, if you look in the indictment, there is special emphasis on papers that were actually picked up by the fbi during that infamous raid on august 8th of last year, the search warrant raid on mar-a-lago, and those being papers that trump had

point now for a few weeks, but one of the reasons donald trump was president was because of hillary clinton's issues much, much smaller than these ones, having to do with classified documents as a candidate in 2016 mr. trump repeatedly hammered hillary for her treatment of classified documents with her email server and insisted that he cared deeply about the sanctity of classified documents and information. he reiterated over and over no one is above the law. >> in my administration i'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. no one will be above the law. >> one of the first things we must do is to enforce all classification rules and to enforce all laws relating to the handling of classified information. >> we also need the best protection of classified information. >> perhaps not surprisingly all three of those statements by mr. trump are cited in the criminal indictment against donald trump in which of course he faces 37 charges related to the mishandling of the classified documents he swore he would protect. let's discuss. jamie, let me start with yo

the hillary clinton precedent if we applied it to the law. nobody would ever again be prosecuted -- the problem he has is once you are charged it's not a good legal argument in a jury trial. the jury is going to be told it doesn't matter what happened to somebody else. it's this case. >> they raid mar-a-lago, they didn't raid chappaqua or u-penn. you are going to hear legal expert jonathan turley. >> violations of those laws put our country at risk. adherence to the rule of law is a bedrock principle of the department of justice. our nation's commitment to the rule of law sets an example for the world. we have one set of laws in this country and they apply to everyone. it's important for me to note that the defendants in this case must be presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law. to that end my office will seek a speedy trial in this matter. >> it's an extremely damning indictment. there are some indictments that are narrative or speaking indictments. these are indictments that are meant to make a poin

>> in the hillary clinton case under the jack smith standard and hillary clinton should have been charged on many counts of violating the statute and this is the problem is the equal justice under the law. that concept is out the window because that was a fleeting moment where the fbi director can stand up and give someone a pass that now we have the biden administration, through their special counsel and jack smith who directly reports to garland is targeting the main political opponent.he stood up today and said essentially he was representing the intelligence community. guess of the intelligence community when after and 2015 and 2016? donald trump. and here we go again. >> by the way to some shocking news last night. the conspiracy theorists of all theorists rachel maddow said something true on her show. take a pause and note. >> you have to wonder if the justice department is considering if there is some political solution to this criminal problem, if part of the issue here is not just that trump has committed crimes but he has committed crimes and plans to be back in the white house.

he didn't know hillary clinton's people took a hammer to a blackberry. he didn't know they wiped the e-mails clean. he didn't know that anthony weiner wound out with classified information on his computer. he didn't nor any of that because when the democrats accuse something they don't know. >> brian: he needs to watch this show and learn something. >> i agree and happy birthday president trump because he's watching this show. [cheers and applause]. >> so i talk to him, hey, hey pal, you had dinner with melania and ivanka, we've got your back. president trump, we have your back. this is not about you. it's about us. you can take to the you takely llama and this is a bunch of bs president trump you're going to prevail and be the republican nominee and you're going to be president again. just hang in there. [cheers and applause]. >> sean: what do you make -- how is its possible the things you're explaining? you don't believe that george stephanopoulos knew, i give him more credit than that, i think he knew dam well about the 33,000 deleted e-mails. he's he

so i don't really want to talk about hillary clinton, that's hillary clinton. number 2, there is a reason why trump was the earliest presidential candidate in history to declare for president he declared earlier than anybody else ever has any wanted to declare even earlier than that. but ronald mcdaniel, beg him not to declare for president before the mid term elections in november. and the reason why he did that is to set up this entire argument that was just made, which is, i'm a, i'm a presidential candidate. i'm running for president and they're only doing this for that reason. but the bottom line is declaring that you are running for president does not give you immunity for any crimes you commit while you're running. and that's his problem. by the way, how could this work out? so donald trump now being prosecuted, he is the front runner for the republican nomination could very well according to the polls and frankly, according to minneapolis could very well quench that nomination while being under prosecution. is there any impact on? well, there are 2 ques

but there is the hillary clinton of it all. he emails with the classified. and my view was, well, gee, as a naval office, if i would have taken classified to my apartment, i would have been co court marshalled in a new york minute. >> when i lived there when i was your vice president, we watched the department of justice announce there could be no charges against hillary clinton. >> it is almost like just a buzz,b buzz -- it is more than a buzzword. it is like a paff loafan thing. it triggers something in people's minds and we forget that the chant was lock her up. but this is one of the reasons why i think republicans can't turn on trump as long as he said hillary clinton, voters are like this is unfair. >> right. and also let's remember, it is ironic that trump came into office also talking about the importance of protecting classified information. citing all of the talk that he had about hillary clinton and her emails during the campaign. quite ironic now where he finds himself here. but one might also ask when you hear comme

none of that was true with hillary clinton.or our viewers who are interested in this minute podcast, courtside, which was just released last week. the first 12 minutes is just explaining what did hillary clinton do? what donald trump do, just going through technically minute by minute what they did. >> all right, glenn, i am giving you the hardest job of the night, especially because neal was just applauding your scope as a prosecutor. how about a defense attorney -- i want you to put yourself in donald trump's lawyers shoes tonight. what are you telling your client and what's your strategy, truly? >> yes, there is no less comfortable place to be than in the shoes of a donald trump lawyer. i don't think he has a defense on either the facts or the law. let me follow up on a great point that neal made, you know, he will try to talk about hillary clinton. but that information, that evidence will not see the inside of a courtroom. he continues to engage in a huge miscalculation. he is playing to the court of public opinion. he's go

you referenced hillary clinton. you talked about pence and biden. they're very different circumstances than what trump is facing, given the fact that he refused to hand over the information when the government was subpoenaing him and very clearly seeking it. mike pence looks at what's in this indictment. he says, he cannot defend what is alleged here. bill barr said he would be toast in his legal term he used if even half of it is true. do you believe there are serious concerns about what's alleged about what trump did here? >> i think we haven't been able to hear from the trump defense team. i think it's way too early to jump to any conclusions when you're only hearing one side of an indictment without hearing the defense. let's let the process play out. i will say this, kaitlan. it is very disconcerting for republican voters to continually see one system of justice for republicans and democrats. i'm going to point to the durham report. the durham report just come out. it showed the dnc and hillary clinton put forward a fake dos say that caused the

i see in the hillary clinton case and pulling back on the reins. not here with trump. >> neil: another key point they mentioned with this is that the charges including willful retention of national defense information and the obstruction of false justice falls into a pattern of behavior, is that fair or right? a lot of republicans say absolutely not. supporting the president saying absolutely not, former president including some of the guys competing with him to become the republican nominee for president. to a man or woman they are standing by him for now. but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody. ♪ this is not just delivery. ♪ this is knowing even superheroes... can use a sidekick. ♪ walgreens. ♪ this is not just a pharmacy. ♪ this is living the care in healthcare. ♪ walgreens. if we want a more viable future for our kids, we need to find more sustainable ways of doing things. america's plastic mak

. >> referencing everything he said about hillary clinton's emails, we learn that some of it was keptthe shower, and the pressure on his attorneys, their arguing that he tried to obstruct investigation, including suggesting his attorney hide or destroy documents that were called for by the grand jury subpoena. we know a lot of this because they have the notes from the attorney evan corcoran, do expect he would have to take the stand trial for this?>> presumably if the has already given grand jury testimony, i presume he would have had, he would be in the indictment or an interview, the government may have proceeded and won on an argument of the crime fraud exception to the attorney- client privilege, in which case i think mr. corcoran should expect to have to testify at any trial. >>> obviously trump is been indicted by your former office, the manhattan district attorney's office for falsification of business records, is also been indicted by the special counsel, when you look at the two of them side by side, which poses a more serious threat to him?>> the work that has been done in m

one of them is the hillary clinton case.w mccabe talking about that those weren't classified documents those was simply the content of email exchanges deemed to be classified. these weren't documents with classified stampings on the tops and bottoms and cover sheets and all that kind of stuff. should it have happened? no. what we didn't have is evidence that hillary clinton had intentionally exchanged or withheld classified information.

senate republicans obsessed over hillary clinton's emails are now okay with this. then congressman eric swalwell will join me live with his reaction to this historic indictment and so too will sarah matthews the ex trump aide who testified against her or her former boss for the january six committee. >> good evening i'm mehdi hassan, anyone who knows me knows i am not a fan of the george w. bush administration or the so-called republican party establishment that preceded donald trump's hostile takeover of the gop. and yet, in 2016, a group of bush administration alumni and republican foreign policy establishment heavy hitters came together and issued this open letter. publicly stating that they would not vote for their party's nominee, then with aj trump in the upcoming election. these officials warn that the trump presidency would, quote, put it risk our country's national security and well-being. they wrote that then-candidate trump, quote, would be the most reckless president in american history. and what we've learned in recent days in particular makes that tha

maria: it seems eerily similar to what happened with hillary clinton being shoehorned in.r priorities as a presidential candidate right after this break. marianne williamson coming back next. ♪ ♪ but what happens when you need affordable health care? christian health care ministries could save you up to 40% today. as a member, you can choose your provider without network restrictions. sign up at your convenience with our anytime enrollment. join a christian community that supports each other's medical expenses, offering peace of mind as you prioritize what's most important. enroll now at your chm dot org maria: welcome back. i am back with democrat presidential candidate marianne williamson. make the case, what will you do as president marianne williamson? >> i think the united states needs an economic u-turn. we have 20% of americans for whom the economy is doing quite well, 20% in the richest country in the world. that that means 80% of americans are living in a sea of economic despair. 70% of americans report to cnbc that they live with chronic economic stress. and one

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>> -- to prosecute hillary clinton.what we're looking at is people seeing things as being inequitable. if you don't prosecute hillary clinton and you choose to prosecute donald trump, that raises questions in republicans' minds. and it should. but it does not change the conduct. we cowould not be here if donal trump had returned the documents the dozens of times the government asked him to return them. the times that the grand jury served a subpoena for them. he waited, waited and waited, defied the government. and then, wound up having his house raided. and when they did, they found over 100 more classified documents, after he had told everybody months earlier, he had returned everything. that conduct is indefensible in my view. if it's true, as alleged in the indictment, he is in severe legal trouble. >> indefensible, disturbing, your words about the alleged conduct. is the republican party right now, not only at a crossroads politically but historically? >> i said this when i announced for president. we have been in

next to it, that's what they should have said about hillary clinton, but they didn't. a different standard when it comes to donald trump. stuart: i never thought of that. i would have got that in my editorial. jason, say there, please, with me for the hour. emily's list, one of the nation's most powerful political groups, they're going to the invest millions of dollars ahead of the 2024 election. lauren, where's the money going? i'm pretty sure it's not going to biden. who gets the money? lauren: kamala harris. stuart: you're kidding me? lauren: sorry. i didn't mean to choke on purpose. you're saying you're kidding me because we should know who she is, she's been in office, she's introduced to the american public x. now emily's list is acknowledging she needs somewhat of a makeover so people get to know her more and like her more and maybe deem her as being more effective than joe biden. critics, whether their -- they're democrats or republicans, a scare tactic because of biden's age you get president harris, and that's why they're pouring at least $10 million to boost

the talk about and hillary clinton. they didn't do this to hillary clinton in their right. hillary destroyed 30,000 emails in a way that was a permanent destruction. she was in a president from president, big destroyed cell phones with hammers. there was no warrant, there knows no squatting, she had a private server in her home. she lied arguing it wasn't classified information. they found classified information. how was the department of justice going to argue that it is official government position in 2012. and it wasn't that they can't bring charges against hillary clinton. and there in special position today is that if the false statement, and conspiracy to obstruct, look at all the photos, we've got boxes on the floor here, but okay what happened? to any of those documents? in those pictures? on the floor? will they do not tell us? did somebody steal anything? they don't tell us. look at the culture, we know that there classified because bci items redacted. okay so what? what happened to that document? with all of the witnesses that they have. another violations of atto

and the hillary clinton case, what's the most egregious in your view, chris? >> yeah, if you look at the inspector general report, this young man deliberate at this, willfully and with the instructions of the hillary clinton staffing, staff, maybe not directly her, bleach bit or destroyed the e-mails or evidence in a computer hard drive and they say in the report, well, he was too low on the totem pole to prosecute. we don't mess with people. he's just a foot soldier. you work your way up from the foot soldiers to the principals. there's no search warrants, mother may i have those e-mails, instead of aggressive prosecution. maria: all of this as everybody knew her campaign came up with the lie that trump colluded with russia which of course has been the dominating story, well, certainly dominant during trump's presidency and campaign. chris, thanks very much for your insights on all of this. we appreciate your time. >> thank you, maria. maria: thank you, sir. we are just getting started this morning. coming up, we will stay on this unprecedented story all morn

simpson and hillary clinton. when the verdict was read in the o.j.impson a case, the reacti to the verdict fell along racia lines. co-workers believed police had framed a guilty man and policee mi misconduct they foun more nauseous than double murder. as far as hillary clinton, special counseasl injected her this case. his indictment laid out president trump's state of mind and he believed outmaneuvered doj.and according to jack smith's indictment, hillary clinton was trump's roadmap. clinton had an e-mail arrangement withh he herself, s kept record from her time as f secretary of state, including items marked classified, she made numerous false statements to you, not fbi because d.o.j. fed her the questions before she was interviewed. we later learned jim comey rg decided not cha charge clinton even before she was interviewed, they discarded e-mails they wanted to destroy, e-mails were destroyed, witnesses made false statements, yet fbi and doj took a full pass.ad her lawyers served as judge, jury and executioner and doj played along. two wrongs do

just called and she conceded. >> cnn can report that hillary clinton has called donald trumpthe race. >> i just received a call from secretary clinton. she congratulated us. >> trump lost the popular vote but he was able to knock some bricks off of the glue wall by a combined total of 80,000 votes. in a nation of 330 million people, those votes were the difference between president hillary clinton and president donald trump. you go to inauguration to be uplifted and we were reminded that we were one country. >> the crime and the gangs and the drugs that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country, this american carnage stops right here and stops right now. >> this was consistent with the message that he had been conveying since he came down the escalator. things are terrible and only i can fix it. he touched a chord with americans that believe that. >> crime, drugs, and gangs, it was dark. >> we learned later on that that was weird. that was the reaction from a lot of people. it was just weird. sure max pron with 30 grams of protein, one gram of sugar. enter the nourish