and hillary mantel says our relentless scrutiny of the monarchy — especially royal wives — spans theoyal women. we only have to look at what happens when our royal ladies give birth. they are perceived as public property, in the same way that tudor women were perceived. it is simply turning the individual woman back into a breeder. i did wonder what you made of the treatment of the duchess of sussex. do you think she's been a victim of racism? it brings me back to this question of the body. it does include the skin, so racism is a factor. i think it's more deeply embedded in people's consciousness than any of us are willing to admit. couldn't it have been managed with less bloodshed ? hillary mantel‘s already adapting her new book for the stage, and she says she'd now rather work in the theatre than at home, writing novels. i've spent enough time sitting in a room by myself and, you know, i'm not sure i want to die at my desk, so you've got to be, erm, sane about this. dame hilary mantel ending that report by rebecca jones. in a moment on bbc news, we'll be bringing you a special pro