yet we supported the ouster, the , hillaryinistration clinton and her position, we supported those tryingto oust muammar gaddafi and i think there were concerns this policy would implode on them if the public saw this as something that was a policy failure. indeed, so the market off he is knocked out of power, the rebels than what us -- no market off he is knocked out and the rebels want is out. the same people we supported turn on us.fi they may have been some of the ones that attacked us in benghazi that night. host: and that brings us to the front page of "the washington times" this morning -- what does this tell you? guest: libya was being used as a place to transfer weapons to syria, where things were starting to bubble up. my question was never able to get to the bottom of, some believed u.s. was part of the arms directly. my sources could not confirm that, but we knew they were going on. we knew weapons were being moved, but we were also aiming or arming and training rebels ourselves. some of him we knew, according to my sources, had previously been involved with al qaeda movements