also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith. she's a rock 'n' roll icon who spent 30 years as a bassist, guitarist, and vocalist in the hall of fame-worthy alternative band, sonic youth. her memoir, "girl in a band," has just been published. she's kim gordon, this is "overheard." [applause]. >> actually, there are not two sides to every issue. >> so i guess we can't fire him now. >> i guess we can't fire him now. the night that i win the emmy. >> being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. >> it's hard work and it's controversial. >> without information, there is no freedom. and it's journalists who provide that information. >> window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes to 11:00. [laughter]. >> kim gordon, welcome. >> thank you. >> congratulations on this book. i'm sure it's going to be a big hit. it must have been fun to write. >> parts of it were fun. >> yeah. >> parts were boring. >> boring? parts of it were boring

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. and viewers like you. thank you. >>> i'm evan smith. he's one of the leading liberal political thinkers of our day, a national magazine award-winning staff writer and senior editor for "the new yorker," his journalistic home for a total of three decades, and the two-time former editor of "the new republic." he's hendrik hertzberg, this is "overheard." [applause]. >> actually, there are not two sides to every issue. >> so i guess we can't fire him now. >> i guess we can't fire him now. the night that i win the emmy. >> being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. >> it's hard work and it's controversial. >> without information, there is no freedom. and it's journalists who provide that information. >> window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes to 11:00. [laughter]. >> rick hertzberg, welcome. >> great to be here. >> nice to see you again, and for no particular reason except just to talk politics, which i love to do. >> the oh,

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. >> evan: i'mvan smith. he's a veteran academic and critic and an acclaimed author of both fiction and nonfiction, whose latest book, "finale: a novel of the reagan years", has just been published. he's thomas mallon, this is "overheard". [applause]. >> evan: let's be honest. is this about the ability to learn or is this about the experience of not having been taught properly? and how have you avoided what has befallen other nations in africa? you could say that he made his own bed, but you caused him to sleep in it. no, you saw a problem and, over time, took it on. let's start with the sizzle before we get to the steak. are you going to run for president? i think i just got an f from you, actually. this is "overheard." [applause]. >> evan: thomas mallon, welcome. >> thomas: thanks for having me. >> evan: congratulations on this -- >> thomas: thank you. >> evan: -- brand new book. why reagan? why the reagan administration as a setting for a

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. >> evan: i'm evan smith. two decades ago he was bill clinton's secretary of labor. today he teaches public policy at u.c. berkeley and he's just published his 15th book, "saving capitalism for the many, not the few". he's robert reich. this is "overheard". [applause]. >> evan: let's be honest. is this about the ability to learn or is this about the experience of not having been taught properly? and how have you avoided what has befallen other nations in africa? you could say he made his own bed, but you caused him to sleep in it. no, you saw a problem and, over time, took it on. let's start with the sizzle before we get to the steak. are you going to run for president? i just got an f from you, actually. this is "overheard". [applause]. >> evan: mr. secretary, welcome. >> robert: thank you, evan. >> evan: very nice to have you here. >> robert: good to be here. >> evan: when did income inequality become a thing? i realize that's kind of a m

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith. he's an acclaimed documentary filmmaker whose credits include "enron: the smartest guys in the room." "we steal secrets: the story of wikileaks." "the armstrong lie." "client 9: the rise and fall of eliot spitzer," and "taxi to the dark side," which won the academy award in 2007. his latest film is "going clear: scientology and the prison of belief." he's alex gibney. this is "overheard." [applause]. >> actually, there are not two sides to every issue. >> so i guess we can't fire him now. >> i guess we can't fire him now. the night that i win the emmy. >> being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. >> it's hard work and it's controversial. >> without information, there is no freedom. and it's journalists who provide that information. >> window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes to 11:00. [laughter]. >> alex gibney, welcome. >> glad to be here, evan. >> nice to see you and

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith. he's an acclaimed documentary filmmaker whose credits include "enron: the smartest guys in the room." "we steal secrets: the story of wikileaks." "the armstrong lie." "client 9: the rise and fall of eliot spitzer," and "taxi to the dark side," which won the academy award in 2007. his latest film is "going

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy.nd by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. and viewers like you. thank you. >> i'm evan smith. she's a rock 'n' roll icon who spent 30 years as a bassist, guitarist, and vocalist in the hall of fame-worthy alternative band, sonic youth. her memoir, "girl in a band," has just been published. she's kim gordon, this is "overheard." [applause]. >> actually, there are not two sides to every issue. >> so i guess we can't fire him w.

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy.lice kleberg reynolds foundation. >> evan: i'mvan smith. he's a veteran academic and critic and an acclaimed author of both fiction and nonfiction, whose latest book, "finale: a novel of the reagan years", has just been published. he's thomas mallon, this is "overheard". [applause]. >> evan: let's be honest. is this about the ability to learn or is this about the experience of not having been taught properly? and how have you avoided what has befallen other nations in africa? you could say that he made his own bed, but you caused him to sleep in it. no, you saw abl

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. and viewers like you. thank you. >>> i'm evan smith. he's one of the leading liberal political thinkers of our day, a national magazine award-winning staff writer and senior editor for "the new yorker," his journalistic home for a total of three decades, and the two-time former editor of "the new republic." he's hendrik hertzberg, this is "overheard." [applause].

also by hillco partners, a texas government affairs consultancy. and by the alice kleberg reynolds foundation. >> evan: i'm evan smith. two decades ago he was bill clinton's secretary of labor. today he teaches public policy at u.c. berkeley and he's just published his 15th book, "saving capitalism for the many, not the few". he's robert reich. this is "overheard". [applause]. >> evan: let's be honest. is this about the ability to learn or is this about the experience of not having been taught properly? and how have you avoided what has befallen other nations in africa? you could say he made his own bed, but you caused him to sleep in it. no, you saw a problem and, over time, took it on. let's start with the sizzle before we get to the steak. are you going to run for president?