commissioner hillis: can we ask the appellant? if we modify the permit, to remove the water here from the roof, and eliminate any alterations to the skylight, the roof deck, would you agree there is no changes to the roof area? >> without seeing the plans -- commissioner hillis: this is the original permit so you have seen the plans for the original. >> correct. i have not seen the revision plans at all. commissioner hillis: we are talking about the original. if you remove the roof deck, alterations to the skylight, and the roof deck -- >> meaning keep it in its unit, where it exists? commissioner hillis: are there any other modifications being done. >> the only other thing i am not aware of is any work in the garage area. i do not know how that comes into play with any of these existing items. that is common area, how that falls into play. i have not seen the new plans. commissioner hillis: what is before us is the old permit. >> ok. as long as, without modification, is that going to be appealable? commissioner hillis: no. this w

commissioner hillis: that is your client? >> 2323 hyde. commissioner hillis: your client. >> this is the exit door in question that might be closed. these are the garages, these are the garages. it covers the entire front door of lombard. commissioner hillis: and how many is that? >> i believe there are three. seeing the spaces today, i would suggest that four could fit in there. whether they use it that way or not, i do not know. and the main entrance of the building is here. you come off of hyde, enter into a corridor, and there are a pair of stairs. one astaire comes out and discharges through the front door and the other discharges through the exit door. >> where does that or go to? >> once you leave that door, you walk into the neighboring property. you walk under 1100 lombard to lombard st. commissioner hillis: you walk along the garage to a servants -- to a service entrance. >> there was construction today when we were there. but yes, it is adjacent to the garage but under the three units that are above it. >> thank you. good evenin

commissioner hillis: can i just ask how this works? if you want to avail yourself of the rent board process, do we stop the planning permitting? how do they work together? >> this board has a tradition of how to handle illegal units. there are separate processes. the board does offer processes for relocation. when it is an illegal unit, i cannot exactly comment on how it plays with a unit that is illegal, which appears to be the case with this. >> mr. duffy. >> good evening, commissioners. joseph duffey, dbi. the permit was applied for and properly obtained under -- over the counter. two dwelling units. the only thing i see, it is done on 3 units on that. that is probably not accurate but just for tax purposes. i do not see anything in the brief but is it legal occupancy. as far as i'm concerned, it is a two-unit building based on the permit. if anyone has any questions, i would be happy to answer them. >> is there any public comment? seeing none, commissioners, the matter is submitted. president garcia: i guess the reason it would mat

commissioner hillis: is that what i heard? you could get possibly a variance from dbi, which i think they would be inclined to do, as opposed to some of the modifications to the public realm and the sidewalk area. >> i do not know how they would rule on that. one more reminder. this is a barrier removal project. we were looking for what would be most cost-effective, something that is readily achievable for the property owner. that was why we came up with the direction that we had. once we start to go into the stores, there is not just the cost of construction, but the loss of rent and other aspects that makes it less usable. commissioner hillis: i definitely appreciate that. but if you have traded that for a barrier in the sidewalk -- i consider that a public space. it is a trade-off between those. commissioner fung: i think that comment is correct. what i do not want to see -- by the way, let me back up. we fully support that both the sidewalk and the access should be ada accessible. the problem with doing split sidewalks is

commissioner hillis: it seems like the roof is common area. on the ccnr's, it would avoid us having to weigh in on whether that is common area. they are willing to give it up. president garcia: sure. do you want to make your comments a motion? commissioner hurtado? commissioner hurtado: i am in agreement with how it was stated. president garcia: do you want to make a motion? >> if you are going to modify the permit, you are going to grant the appeal. commissioner hillis: with modifications that eliminates the roof deck, resizing or replacing the skylight, and the water heater on the roof. >> you are striking the scope of work in the permit that is before us that speaks to the skylight? commissioner hillis: correct. >> by removing all work in any potential, an area, the lot number on this permit before signing it, correct? commissioner hillis: hopefully we can put them on the internet. >> what about the exteriors there to the roof? -- the exteriors stair to the roof? so we are striking the roof deck, and the exteriors stair. and all work on the

commissioner hillis: aye. commissioner hurtado: aye. >> the boat is -- vote is 4-0. >> ribble colorado item 6, reuter versus the department of public -- we will call item 6, roy versus the department of public works, appealing the denial of a permit to remove and replace two trees. we will start with the appellant. you have seven minutes. >> i wanted to make a request to change the order slightly. we had clearly mistakenly had the impression we would be on the agenda earlier, and i have two neighbors who had the good news to appear in support of my appeal. one has already had to leave because of time constraints. the other has to leave by 6:30. i wonder if you would allow him to make a couple of his comments first, and then have me do my spiels? president garcia: i do not think anybody up here will object to that. >> how much time for public comment? president garcia: give this gentleman three minutes. how many people intend to speak on this item? >> there are three people. there is a remaining neighbor, my pa

commissioner hillis: can we hear from the contractor? >> the original permit does reference the skylight. it talks about resizing and reshaping the skylight. >> my name is brian shepherd. the furnace, as part of the original scope of work, is located in the attic crawl space at the ceiling of the second unit. he was never in the plan to be on the roof and it is not located on the roof. it will be located between the ceiling and the roof rafters, in which there is a significant crawlspace. the water heater was originally scheduled to be where the roof deck is. that is relocated to within the unit of sanford specter. commissioner fung: in the revised permit. >> the scalise modifications are -- there were two skylights added to the revised because there is not going to be a roof deck. the permit holder wanted to utilize the space and provide more natural light. commissioner hillis: my question on the skylight is, is that a modification of the common area since it is a modification of the roof? is the skylight in or out? >> and that is why i

commissioner hillis: that is your client? >> 2323 hyde. commissioner hillis: your client. >> this is the exit door in question that might be closed. these are the garages,

commissioner hillis: i withdraw my motion. president garcia: and i would make a motion that we deny jurisdiction on brussels for the reason that there has been a technical glitch. the permit has expired. now they will have to go through article 25 procedures rather than 11.09b. notice will be given to whoever lives within a certain radius of that particular installation. vice president hwang: aye. commissioner fung: aye. commissioner hillis: aye. commissioner hurtado: aye. that motion carries -- director goldstein: that motion carries 5-0. we will move onto item #5, appeal number 11-145. it is appealing the denial on december 14th, 2011 of the mobile phone for to lead permit for the sale of african coffee, exotic teas and sweets. application no. 11mff-0111. you need to speak into that microphone. >> b i t guy told me to speak with this. >> and we need to have the corte switch to the other microphone. are you ready with the seven minutes? >> yes. >> excellent, please begin. >> thank you for allowing me to talk about might permi

commissioner hillis: aye. commissioner hurtado: aye. >> the vote is 4-0. the permit is up held with all those conditions. thank you. >> we will move on to the last item on our calendar, which is item 11. item 10 has been withdrawn. item 11 is a pill 12-010 -- is appeal 12-010, protesting the issuance on february 3, 2012, to a permit to open a building. application 2012-3472. you have seven minutes. >> krista shaw, for appellants. i would like to give you some background very briefly on the structures at issue here. i am going to speak very briefly because i want to give most of our time to speak to some of the issues being created by the granting of a permit. the structures are planned at 2323 hyde and 1100 lombard. they were originally built as a single residents. there were subdivided in the late 1930's, and since then have been occupied and operated separately. the permit at issue, i can show the overhead, would require closure and filling of this door and this window. this door is the only access to the exterior of this home from the permit's west side

vice president hwang: aye. -- commissioner hillis: aye. commissioner hurtado: aye. >> the denial is overruled. with all those conditions. president garcia: even though i have a clock 30 -- -- 8:30 on the schedule to get out of here and we are blowing by that, we will take a short break.

vice president hwang: aye. -- commissioner hillis: aye. commissioner hurtado: aye. >> the denial is overruled. with all those conditions. president garcia: even though i have a >> welcome back to the march 21, 2012 meeting of the san francisco board of appeals. we are now calling item #7. beth weesner vs the department of building inspection with planning department approval. it is on seven -- it is on at 1753 beach street. protesting the issuance on november 10, 2011 to a permit to alter a building, remodeling a kitchen, bath, and laundry, adding a bath, removing a portion of the wall at the hallway, removing partition at a kitchen to dining, reconfiguring bedroom closets new furnace and water heater, new gas fireplace, new exterior stair to the new roof deck. we will start with the appellant. >> i am representing the appellant in this case. first off, we think the board for continuing this matter at the last minute. we were in negotiations to settle this matter globally with the permit holder but never got a response. here we are, one we

commissioner hillis: what is on the other side of your light well? >> his building. the back of his building lined up right in the center of the light well. it has a roof that slopes down. by the time you get to our second level, he has fully enclosed our light well. commissioner hillis: so his issue with the rail on the back blocking his sunlight -- >> which would follow our parapet. the reason the low were 30 inches are solid -- he wanted us to move a foot in. we would still have to fire grade the railing. then he wanted it to have glass 5 feet in, which is in the way of the door. in the floor plan, you will notice we have been asked by -- >> face it the way you would look at it. >> we had a meeting with the department of building inspection before applying to find a way to be able to keep the existing spiral staircase as our means of egress. the concern they had was will be you -- will be lower unit have access to the roof? we need it to only have access to the upper unit. so we have put a metal gate around the top of the stairs. if i move the railing in, we would

commissioner hillis: what is the scope of this term it? is this it? >> the scope of the permit that is before you is just the fire wall that gets us started and sets the eastern most wall of the expansion that is going to come to be. commissioner hillis: why not submit the permit in its entirety? why do it like this? >> to get started. commissioner fung: how does the 10 feet relate to your building in terms of the fire code? >> the answer is i do not know. i would have to sit down with jeff maddox and asked him to tell me like a 4-year-old. it is a fire code issue. i am not sure. >> mr. sanchez, mr. duffy, you are up. >> i thought there were going to do a duet. commissioner hillis: you never know. >> there we go. mr. boscovich, i do not know. i will talk to him tomorrow. i let him away early. i was a little bit confused when i saw the brief in regards to the property line. there is a complaint that it complied with the dbi about 2323 hyde st. about these windows and the legality of them. i went to look at the complaint and tried to get myself appointe

joining him is commissioner fung, commissioner hillis, and commissioner hurtado. vice-president -- will be out this evening. she will provide the board with any legal advice this evening. at the control is the board's legal assistant and i am the board's executive director. we are also joined by representatives from the city department that have cases before the board. scott sanchez is here. he is the zoning administrator. he is representing the planning department and the planning commission. we are joined by joseph duffey, the senior building inspector representing the department of a building inspection. and john hwwang representing the department of public works and mapping. at this time, if you could go over the board meeting guidelines. >> the board requests that you turn off all phones and pagers so they will not disturb the proceedings. please carry on conversations in the hallway. the rules of presentation are as follows -- the appellant, permit holders, and department representatives each have seven minutes to present their cases and three minutes for re

commissioner hillis: aye. commissioner hurtado: aye. movement is adopted. we move to jurisdiction request at subject property 644 morse street and 43 brussels street. letter from a.f. & doland dahlstrom, requestor, asking that the board take jurisdiction over wireless box permits numbers 10wr-0145, which were issued on january 18th, 2011, and december 21st, 2010, respectively. there were two requestor, so they will get six minutes total. you can wait for the clerk. to see if she is ready with the six minutes. you may begin. >> good afternoon. i am the rich and earn their of this jr request at referred to as af and the documentation. i would like to take this opportunity to request that the appeal timeframe be reopened for the wireless boxes noted in the request. this request was filed on behalf of the neighbors on polk street in question. we feel deprived of our rights and to be informed and what goes on in our neighborhoods, especially of matters that affect our health and aesthetics of the spaces. we are aware of the appeal. for the permits filed, -- of t

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