. >> and really, the story in this area is in all of these areas, is that they're hilly. at least the fires are starting in hilly areas. >> and so you need a lot of pressure, a lot of power to move the water to where it needs to be to fight the fire. you can't just store a ton of water up in these areas unless you build completely different infrastructure than we've done in the past. so the idea that just having more water from northern california to southern california would be helpful is just not true. >> here's something that stuck out to me today, because the former manager of the l.a. water and power department said that the that the system has never been designed to fight a wildfire like this. >> but why would that be like, haven't we known for quite some time? >> the california is at very high risk for wildfires. >> yes, absolutely. we've known that california in general is prone to wildfires and that some urban areas will face wildfires. >> but i don't think, frankly, that we as a society have been willing to pay for the infrastructure that would be needed, especi

it's not super hilly. so that has helped firefighters starting to get on top of that. so as we take a look at the wind here tonight, it's 20 to about 35 for lower elevations, higher elevations getting up to about 50. 10 p.m. we stay with those gusty winds in the mountains into tomorrow morning, maybe up to that 60 70 mile per hour range. then tomorrow night into thursday. there you go. watch this. as that wind starts to get into the 5 to 15 mile per hour range. so tomorrow night into thursday this is all going to be out of here. raj we hope that happens. thank you jeff. let's talk about the money now. could federal aid for california end up being granted conditionally meaning strings could be attached? speaker of the house mike johnson thinks so. blaming these wildfires on what he says are issues with our local leadership. you've also heard us talk about our concerns with the governance of the state of california, state and local, and to the extent that there is complicity involved and the scope of the disaster, then we think that's something that needs to be carefully

some people suggested that it also could suggest that the pumps that are used, particularly in hillyreas and things may have gone down with the power loss of power. now, of course, that begs the question whether a generators, for example, to supply that. so these are all details we don't know yet. and we're going to have to find out exactly what these are. >> it sounds like infrastructure issues that the city needs to address. >> right. and a lot of these water tanks are put as developments go in. these additional tanks are installed. so they only handle a particular area. and these particular areas may have been the ones that it sounds like have had the problems. >> so what about forest management? i mean we also hear that a lot. and and i think it is an important question. i mean, we saw in anderson earlier today, there were people right now cutting down brush and creating these fire barriers. but is california doing enough to do that in advance of times like this, when they know that winds are coming and they know that the land is dry and that fires are likely, and that takes time

it's not in a very hilly terrain. so overall, that did help firefighters on those gusty winds. we'll see it here as we head through tonight 22 about 50mph. we'd see the same thing into tomorrow morning. and then eveually here we go wednesday night and thursday. that wind calms down. it will be just 5 to 10mph. so that will get that wind out of here. i've got more looks to forecast coming up later on. okay. thank you very much, jeff. obviously investigators are still trying to figure out the exact cause of that palisades fire, but now they say it's possible. the first embers were burning days before this wildfire took off. nbc's brittany home has more on the investigation. hi, jessica. right now, investigators main focus is if this was human caused. but they say they're not leaving anything on the table, not ruling anything out yet. if this was an accident, if there was power equipment that failed and started the fire, what they do know, what they believe at this point is that this fire might have started in the same place as another fire six days earlier. and today i talked to

hillis director hillis i appreciate that. thank you. so i don't want to call your name of course i got a lot of respect for you so but but anyway, i am concerned about, you know, public notice around these particular sb 423 sites and i'm wondering, you know, if there's no plan in place now moving forward, is there something that the planning commission can do to help further that? >> you know, i think you're right. we did talk about this before. i don't think there's a there isn't a requirement for a notice under 423. we i don't think it precludes us but i think we've we've got an answer for you on that. >> could we say in a 423 or it probably it would be on the city to put out that notice to adjacent neighbors if we you know if we chose to to do that, i don't think it can be required of that of the project sponsor but could the city say hey there's a notice in set it out to adjacent property owners? >> you know at the time of application or perhaps even at the time of construction when a project supposed to start. db i do. it does have

investment firm and previously raised money for democratic esent of candidates al gore, hilly clinton and barack obama and served as ie investment officer for soros fund magement. more recently he raised more than $57 million for donald trump's 2024 campaign. if confiedhe would become the second gay person to ser in a presidential cabinet aer pete buttigieg. next, in his own words. we start with his were marks at a conservative economic policy summit old on the sidelines of the 2024 republicanatnal convention. he talked about economic priorities for a second trump administration. >> let me start with you. you are one of the leading financial minds in america. have made a lot of money in the financial markets. have been a strong supporter of donald trump. you talk to him all the time. you see scott on fox news all the time, fox business news, as well as jason and charlie, of course. you're talking to trump. what do you think he needs to be doing, in addition to the things we've been talking about, what does he need to do to get this economy going because you're talking to him all the t

there was water, there was not enough pressure to deliver the water to the hilly areas like the pacific is essentially a cliff area over the ocean. it has been remedied. that happened in maui and in other major fires. these systems are not built for wildland fires. amna: we saw president elect trump blame directly the california governor gavin newsom, falsely claiming newsom had failed to sign a water restoration declaration. you said it all my years in and studying disaster management i have never seen a president-elect blame a jurisdiction while the disaster was still out of control. it is cruel to first responders and victims and could impede effective response. what did you mean by that? how could impede the response? juliette: half the nation voted for him and they are going to believe what he says. in the moment that we are in, there will be time for blame and assessment and legal challenges as well as hopefully building changes. right now we are just trying to protect life and the life of firefighters. one way you protect life is people listen to their local authorities. that is

we are in a very hilly canyon filled area of a brentwood. brentwood. just north of brentwood. this is known as the mandeville canyon. behind me it was you were the fire is learning is releasing a large plume of smoke up in the air. the sky is surgeon be covered by the smoke turned turn the ligha fury orange color. the only cars drove along this road artificial vehicles. fire fire personnel have another one from cal fire driving on up to join the firefighting effort. received numerous firefighting aircraft coming and making a water drops as continues to push towards brentwood. this is the most active part of the fire including a thousand acres of palisade fire at 22600 acres as of the last update but extremely destructive fire that destroyed the command to pacific palisades that threatens another upscale neighborhood, brentwood. people on pins and the answer see what happened to their homes. all around me the neighborhoods have been evacuated. this is mandatory evacuation zone. keeping our heads on a swivel ligature our evacuation route will keep you updated on fox news. is it

and it's very difficult to fight a fire in an urban, hilly environment like this. um, so there's a bit of a respite before the wind is expected to pick up. unfortunately, once more, wolf, i know, nick, you've spoken with many people who've actually lost their homes. >> what are they telling you? >> well, yeah, we've spoken to people who've walked in from santa monica. that's a few miles to come and check on their homes. i met one guy whose grandparents bought this house just after the second world war. successive generations have lived in it, raised their kids in it. he is raising his kid. they're expecting another. their house now is gone. he was picking through. i'm not even going to call it rubble. picking through the sludge, the dust that remains of that house, trying to find any mementos. he can. he can. he can find. i spoke to another man up here who said, i only built this house 2 or 3 years ago, so i've still got the plans. hopefully that means that they'll just approve those plans again, because i built this place so, so recently. now, the other issue is,

it's hilly terrain where luxury homes dot the same ridges that have recently burned.nstructed with a dizzying array of technologies ranging from steel framing to fire resistant roofs and venting systems designed to keep flaming embers from being sucked into the structure. >> there's nowhere for the ember to get cast into. it would touch this resaw and cedar material and not ignite, and the groups behind them are generating compelling evidence for what the standards can achieve at their testing center in south carolina, the institute for business and home safety uses powerful fans to blast burning embers towards a variety of home building materials to judge their effectiveness. >> this demonstration shows how a common wooden fence is helping flames reach the home on the left, while a metal fence gap on the right is preventing it back along the fire scarred hillsides in sonoma county, some of the most advanced technologies are being put to the test in real time. >> and then this is the foil backed osb material. that's that's underneath the roofing material. >> that's wh

alerts, most of which told us that evacuations were ordered for the palisades, highlands and all the hillyreas. but knowing that the winds were so severe, we all went home, packed up our cars, got our pets, medications, whatever, and took off. and the better news for us at that point was that sunset boulevard is the only major thoroughfare that runs through the entire town. and at the end, where steve guttenberg was, sunset was closed due to fire. and where i was, i was able to go the opposite direction and actually very, very slowly get out of town. it is apocalyptic. there's never been anything like this, all because of the severe winds. it's just. and usually when you live in the palisades, when you live in the little flat area in the village where i live, you have sort of a false sense of security because you're surrounded by canyons and mountains and of course, the ocean on one side. and usually all the problems have been in the canyons and the mountains. but this time, because of the wind, it blew the fire into every single neighborhood in the entire town. and there are a lot of hous

this wind started to climb once again. 30, 40, 50 mile-per-hour wind overnight and some of those more hillyas you get into canyons that is where the wind is always the strongest and that is where they are going to peak once again. this is really overnight into early friday by friday afternoon friday evening we are looking at the wind to almost vanish at least for a little while. suddenly looked again no wind across this entire region this does not last we see the winds pick back up late saturday into sunday but this is good news. we will get a good chunk of time here with almost no wind. today it is critical in the red largely across this entire area. by the time we look at tomorrow it is still there. it is elevated this is as low as we have seen in several days. so the winds will be calmer tomorrow than we have seen since this ultimately broke out a couple days ago. the other story yes, it is the fire damage in the northern area but this is a real steelmaker this has plummeted across los angeles in some areas for that to the south. huge swath of southern california are here looking at here

county does include santa clarita, simi valley, thousand oaks, oxnard and this is an area that is hilly terrain, some of the strongest winds and some of the lowest humidity. so here's a look at the wind speeds throughout the day. they remain active all day today. that's why the red flag warning continues through today into tomorrow. some gusty winds to begin wednesday, but by wednesday evening the winds will back off. the red flag warning will expire and the humidity will be on the rise back here at home. here's a live look at san jose. it's all about a cold morning out there. light winds. a frost advisory in effect. the payoff this afternoon. mild conditions, sunshine and light winds. sunrise coming at 724 this morning. amanda. all right, drew. >> thank you. still ahead on abc. seven mornings at six. more animals are being evacuated from the fire zones in la. many are coming here to the bay area. we're talking about more than just cats and dogs up for adoption. >> then a midair scare for a flight that departed from sfo. the close call between two planes over phoenix, arizona. >> and a

it's a question of getting it to some of these hilly areas, which seems like it's more of an engineering issue. but again, officials here say there's certainly a lot of questions that need answering. but right now it's about trying to contain it. and none of these major four fires have been contained. the firefighters have actually been using water from their truck on this fire. i assume it's because the hydrants around here still aren't don't have water. they've done the best. they've been pouring putting water on this for the last 30 minutes or so. um, but it is it's a, it is that that house is gone. and if you've been watching any of our coverage, i mean, this entire block burned down over the last several hours before our eyes. it's it's just been an extraordinary thing. and we've seen this in the palisades. we've seen this in a number of areas. i just want to show you some of what we. what happened here on this street earlier today. there just are not enough fire crews, uh, able to deal with all the blazes that are going on. this house is completely gone. the next house next door. l

alerts, most of which told us that evacuations were ordered for the palisades, highlands and all the hilly areas. but knowing that the winds were so severe, we all went home, packed up our cars, got our pets, medications, whatever, and took off. and the better news for us at that point was that sunset boulevard is the only major thoroughfare that runs through the entire town, and at the end where steve guttenberg was, sunset was closed due to fire. and where i was, i was able to go the opposite direction and actually very, very slowly get out of town. it is apocalyptic. there's never been anything like this, all because of the severe winds. it's just. and usually when you live in the palisades, when you live in the little flat area in the village where i live, you have sort of a false sense of security because you're surrounded by canyons and mountains and of course, the ocean on one side. and usually all the problems have been in the canyons and the mountains. but this time, because of the wind, it blew the fire into every single neighborhood in the entire town. and there are a lot of hou

but it is very frustrating obviously, for firefighters in these uphill areas, in these hilly and mountainous areas. the situation with the hydrants not having water, not sure there were more firefighters arrived here just recently. it looks like they may have moved on because maybe they have realized that the water situation here, but writ large, they say there's not a shortage of water. it's just an issue in these places that are uphill. more than a million people without power. as you know, in southern california right now, they are asking firefighters from all western, many western states to come here. these firefighters have been working for, you know, 26, 27 hours. and a lot of them haven't been told when they may actually get a break. they could go another 12, 24 hours without without sleeping. it is a very fast moving situation. this eaton fire is now last i heard the official estimate was about 10,000 acres burning. the winds have died down, wolf, so that is certainly helping the situation somewhat. but there still are wind gusts coming. and and this fire is still moving. i mean, a f

it's getting it into some of these hilly, mountainous areas or hills. and that the sort of the tanks that, that, that they use for gravity reasons to, to push that water up and the house just now, you know, the size of it falling down. we're also watching, i should say, there's a car prius in the driveway. so we're watching that. but it hasn't even started on fire yet. it usually starts with the wheels, with the wheels on fire, and then it'll spread. um, the water issues is obviously something that's got to got to be looked at and got to be figured out. but this is just an unprecedented and and it's you know, he talked about resources coming into the state. he said you know that that you know he's on the scene. i mean, he's been walking around talking with firefighters, assessing damage out with fire crews. um, you know, at this point there's not much more you can do right now. >> all right. anderson, thank you very much. and i want to go to natasha chen now because she's also out front in altadena, another part of the city there. and, natasha, what is

it's a question of getting it to some of these hilly areas, which seems like it's more of an engineering issue. but again, officials here say there's certainly a lot of questions that need answering. but right now it's about trying to contain it. and none of these major four fires have been contained. the firefighters have actually been using water from their truck on this fire. i assume it's because the hydrants around here still aren't don't have water. they've done the best. they've been pouring putting water on this for the last 30 minutes or so. um, but it is it's a, it is that that house is gone. and if you've been watching any of our coverage, i mean, this entire block burned down over the last several hours before our eyes. it's it's just been an extraordinary thing. and we've seen this in the palisades. we've seen this in a number of areas. i just want to show you some of what we. what happened here on this street earlier today. there just are not enough fire crews, uh, able to deal with all the blazes that are going on. this house is completely gone. the next house next door. l

i mean, and you're learning how to drive stick, so it's it's very hilly here. i know you live over the corner and your apartment is okay, but you parked it here because it's a flat surface. so then when you got the evacuation orders, obviously you're not going to jump in this car. so. so tell me what happened. >> so i'm at one 800 coastline at the bottom, and i just got the news from my whole building. they're like, we have to evacuate. we have to evacuate. and this is our second evacuation. i'm like, oh my god, let me just grab my dog. like, i didn't bring anything with me except my dog, literally. and i'm like the hill. like it's all i saw. the hills on fire. and i'm like, oh my god. like the vans are gone or like it's on flat. like we just that's my area where we just walk and just drive around in it and i'm like, that's the first thing that i detach from. and i'm like, i'm surrendering. the vans are gone. or like i'm detaching from this van. yeah, it's me and buddy. yeah. so i was like, i'm not escaping. i'm just going to leave it. so i'm grateful that my o

the other issue around here, this is like a hilly community. the roads are very narrow. so when people were told to evacuate, it was very difficult to evacuate. some people tried and couldn't. there were huge traffic jams. people were abandoning their cars, going on foot. now we also saw l.a. fire department bulldozers just moving those cars out of the way, pushing them out of the way. so engines like this can come in here to try to fight these fires. now the other. chris, look at this. i mean, this this, this, this house. you know, i was here six minutes ago. this house was pristine. look at it. now, these houses behind me have been burning for some time now. so the strange thing about these fires is they're kind of predictable. we knew that this santa ana wind event, these hot, whipping, gusting winds were going to be coming. so fire departments were pre-positioned, ready. we knew it was happening. this morning. i was down on the beach about 8 a.m. the wind was just beginning to pick up. 1030. this fire ignited. now 1200 plus acres. erin. i mean, the speed, the ferocit

it's a little hilly, very affluent community. so evacuating people on these roads was a massive problem. there were just traffic jams. people abandoned their cars, walked with their luggage, and then the fire department, of course, had to get their firefighting equipment in. so they use bulldozers just to clear those cars out of the way so they can get in to try to fight this fire. so as i say, anderson, it's going to be early hours of the morning when we see the worst of this wind. and the other problem, this vegetation. we haven't had significant rain out here in l.a. since the spring. so there is so much dry vegetation and that that's just fuel. >> anderson and nick, i mean, where you are, it looks i mean, it looks like there's fresh, there's vegetation, dry vegetation all around you. is that also in danger of i mean, are you is that going to is that going to erupt in flames as well? >> am i what. sorry, anderson. >> all the stuff around you, is that going to erupt in flames? i mean, those flames look very close, nick. >> well

the palisades fire ignited tuesday with the hilly, wind addy roads quickly clogging with cars. >> the homeowners are saying they're unable to access any exit routes. there is fire on both sides of the roads. >> reporter: we are in bumper to bumper traffic here as hundreds try to get out. you see flaem flames on both sides of the road with little visibility. many abandoning their vehicles, fleeing on foot. >> police started telling everybody, get out of your car. leave your car if you want to live. >> reporter: a bulldozer brought in, pushing dozens of cars out of the way. smoke from the growing fire darkening the skies. this man breaking down, desperate to reach his dogs. >> i have been trying to get into my house for five hours. >> reporter: later reunited. his house thankfully saved. overnight, a high school up in flames. the fire hitting some of california's most famed areas, home to iconic houses and sites. many celebrities. chris pratt hosting overnight please send prayers and strength to those affected. james wood shows the video of this fire approaching his home. steve guttenbe

and second what we've learned from los angeles and our own narrow and hilly streets, are there additional protocols things that we need to make sure that people can evacuate and more importantly our emerging personnel can get to them. lastly, i just want everybody to remember, 1906, we've been in this position. and so again, are there things that we need to be doing in preparing ourselves knowing it's a tough budget city but this is the best global city in the world and people are coming back. thank you. >> barricades so we will be including that in our budget ask and trying to make sure that we're identifying those needs but they are growing needs. you also identified exactly what our primary responsibility is in case of a large scale emergency, which is to preremoval and route recovery just this morning. i was talking with director of emergency management about the potential of actually sending folks to l.a. they are currently in responding mode but not in recovery mode. but when they get in recovery, we're going to see if we can send folks to assist and learn from this experience. i'm

other smaller fires erupted across hilly areas of l.a. as well. in the hollywood hills, firefighters put out an overnight fire that erupted and burned 60 acres near thousands of homes. mandatory evacuation orders were in place for a while, but most of those orders in that area have been lifted. now, the rest of the evacuation orders will be lifted at 730. firefighters are going to stay out there this morning just to keep an eye out for flare ups. and in studio city, a fire erupted along laurel canyon and mulholland drive. the flames engulfed a four story home, then the home collapsed on the hillside. the fire then spread to nearby brush, brush and buildings. thankfully, firefighters were able to get this fire under control. >> now, fire agencies from across the bay area and beyond have been heading to southern california to provide assistance to crews battling those fires. this includes strike teams from sonoma county. let's welcome santa rosa division chief fire marshal paul lowenthal to mornings on two. to learn more about what's happening. than

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