justice hillyard in court number _ separate offences.lyard in court number one _ separate offences. justice hillyard in court number one speaking - separate offences. justice hillyard in court number one speaking for| in court number one speaking for what was about an hour and 20 minutes in the end, that lengthy sentencing. that is what open justice is all about now. it is about letting everybody know through the televising of these sentencing, exactly how they come to those complex decisions. let's not forget, because the defendant pleaded guilty, there wasn't a trial, so a lot of the information was required at sentencing hearings and we heard it here today. jaswant singh chail was charged with three counts. these are counts one, attempting to alarm or injure the sovereign, contrary to section two of the treason act 1842. the maximum sentence allowable for that would have been seven years. count two, having an offensive weapon in a public place. we know he was carrying a loaded crossbow when he was found in the morning of christmas day

. >> joining us now outside the courthouse, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard.o with us nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, and glen kir issue ner a former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst. what's happening right now inside the trial? >> reporter: right, so everybody knows we do not have camera access to these live trial proceedings here. we are relying on our great producer adam reiss who is inside, i'm looking down at my computer as all of us are tracking his notes he's sending from inside the courtroom. a camera was allowed in before the trial began for about two minutes there. you're looking at donald trump sitting next to chris kise his lead attorney, as well as alina haba who is another one of his attorneys and a legal spokeswoman, and you see letitia james who through her office is bringing this case against donald trump as well as the judge who is overseeing this process over the course of the last two years as the attorney general's office worked to compel the turning over of financial bank real estate records and for

so we will hear the comments from mrjustice hillyard. he essentially has three options on the table before him. defence lawyers for the defendant have argued he is mentally ill. the prosecution have argued he should get the maximum sentence for treason, which is seven years in jail, so thejudge can treason, which is seven years in jail, so the judge can essentially decide whether he should be detained under the mental health act, whether he should be jailed, or whether some sort of hybrid position, so maybe treatment under the mental health act, and then serving some of his sentence injail. so this is what act, and then serving some of his sentence in jail. so this is what we are awaiting mrjustice hilliard to say. so, since he pled guilty back in february, there have been sentencing hearings, so the prosecution and defence have put forward their arguments as to why they are after a particular sentence. for sentencing, we know it is for thejudge to sentence. for sentencing, we know it is for the judge to look at all those arguments and t

nbc's vaughn hillyard is there for us.nk that's time number three going in, leaving for lunch. he's seen a bank of cameras again and stopped. what did he have to say this time? >> reporter: every time donald trump has had the opportunity to take the microphone, he's taken the microphone. donald trump could very well decide to testify himself and go before the judge and actually answer questions of the prosecutors. there's been no indication that he intends to do that. instead he's going to use the microphones that are available to him and he will continue to talk. take a listen to part of what he just said just moments ago. >> this rogue judge, a trump hater. the only one that hates trump more is his associate up there, the person that works with him, and she's screaming into his ear almost every time we ask a question, a disgrace. >> reporter: chris, he spoke for several minutes. as you can hear the sirens, several of the streets around the courthouse are shut down. his motorcade awaits him. the only way for donald trump

nbc's vaughn hillyard is outside the courthouse. also joining us, assistant manhattan district attorney catherine christian and civil attorney danny cevallos. vaughn, tell us what we can expect to happen in court today in terms of the trial kicking off. >> we'll wait to see if any witnesses are brought forward. you see donald trump standing alongside alina habba, his legal spokeswoman. you see jason miller, his campaign senior advisor. just out of frame we saw his lead attorney on this case, chris kise who just met attorney general letitia james inside the courthouse. they briefly exchanged pleasantries and shook hands. leticia james was joined by other prosecutors in the office. we don't expect her to be the one presenting this case day to day. we don't expect donald trump to be here day to day. this trial can last into december, three months, if it should take that long. there's a long list of witnesses that will potentially come forward here. we're listening to donald trump. he's calling this is a witch hunt. this is a man who ha

joining us now is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard who is outside of 60 center street for us, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, and bloomberg opinion senior executive editor, a man who knows so much about donald trump's finances, tim o'brien. vaughn, i'm going to begin with you. there aren't any cameras in the courtroom. they were there for a moment in the beginning. they were told to leave. we're getting a lot of color from our reporters inside the courtroom. what can you tell us has happened so far after the lunch break? >> reporter: right, this is now hour number six. this is going to be a trial that goes on five days a week. the judge set up potentially all the way to december 22nd. of course that could change here. this is a courtroom in which not only donald trump is attending in person, he does not have to attend, and we don't expect him to attend for most of this trial. but lee letitia james, the assit attorney general, the lead prosecutor, the one who announced this initial lawsuit against donald trump is in the courtroom as well. that is rathe

joining us now from the campaign trail is nbc's vaughn hillyard.t has the reaction been by gop candidates to the hamas attacks in israel? >> lindsey, you can see donald trump, the former president, speaking right now in waterloo, iowa. we are in cedar rapids where he will be holding his second event of the day. we also heard from the likes of grounder ron desantis. however, it was suggested earlier this morning, while addressing a crowd in iowa as well, that the united states must stand in solidarity with israel and give them the necessary tools -- it must stand and allow them to respond in a way that they feel fit. we also have nikki haley, the former u.n. ambassador, of course, who any steam in just a bit ago said, quote, make no mistake. hamas is a bloodthirsty terrorist organization backed by iran and determined to kill as many enslaved possible. the reports that israel horrific with a stunning number of dead and wounded. it should be universally condemned. israel has a right to defend its citizens from terror. we must always stand with israel

my colleague vaughn hillyard caught up with him and asked him about it. >> do you actually think he should be put to death? >> what general milley did, was treasonous. what he said to china, he's either stupid or it's treason. any people would call it treason. >> it's alarming, not surprising. but given you served. you're a longtime public servant. what is your reaction to that? >> the level of disrespect for the american military not to mention for the general is both shocking and not shocking. look, this is part of a lifelong pattern with the former president, first displayed when he faked a disability in order to avoid going to vietnam and allowed some working class person to go in his place. and has continued ever since. made a name for himself by, you know, basically saying that he did not respect john mccain because he was a war hero and, you know, look, a lot of this is to get attention and you hesitate to reward that. on the other hand we have some boundaries that matter in this country and one of them is that our regard for the military and our respect for the military is nonparti

my colleague, vaughn hillyard, caught up with him on friday and asked him about it. we will talk to you about on the other side. >> general milley, what he did, is really treason. if you look at what he said to china, he is either stupid or it's treason. there are many people that would call it treason. thank you very much. >> it is alarming, not surprising, but given that you have served in a longtime public servant, what is your reaction to that? , what>> the level of disrespecr the american military, not to mention for the general, is both shocking and not shocking. i mean, look, this is a part of a lifelong path with the former president that i would argue was first displayed when he faked a disability in order to avoid having to go to vietnam and allowed, by assume, some working class person to go in his place. it has continued ever since. made a name for himself by basically saying that he did not respect john mccain because he was a war hero. you know, look. a lot of this obviously is to get attention, and you hesitate to reward that. on the other hand, we do

. >> laura jarrett, vaughn hillyard, thank you for your analysis as well. >>> the u.s.that russia has detained another american journalist for failing to register as foreign agent. this is a reporter with radio free europe liberty and holds dual russian-american citizenship. she's the second american journalist to be detained this year after evan gershkovich in march. if convicted she faces up to five years in prison. >>> there's much more ahead on nbc news daily. >> but first, let's talk about the daily snapshot. communities are morning those who were killed in the hospital explosion in gaza. heavy rain could not stop. hundreds of pro-palestinians from holding a individual outside downing street. you could see them there. plastic sheets were laid on the ground for people to pray on. while some pushed for the british government to get more involved, many said they were just there to mourn the loss, and so many lives lost already in this israel/hamas conflict. >> one picture capturing one moment. more nbc news daily right after this. (vo) you weren't made for moderate to

joining us now is vaughn hillyard who's outside the courthouse and andrew weissman. vaughn, i very briefly touched on what happened. please do explain what led to this gag order. >> right, i just ran out of the courtroom where this trial is beginning again this afternoon and that bring principle law clerk the judge continued to sit next to him about 3 feet away, about ten feet from donald trump who remains in the courtroom. this began around the 11:00 a.m. hour during one of the breaks when donald trump posted on his so-called truth social media account a photo of this law clerk with chuck schumer. and suggested this she was chuck schumer's girlfriend. there is nothing to suggest, let's be clear, that the law clerk is a girlfriend of chuck schumer. this was an image taken from her instagram account. schumer is the senator of new york and there's nothing that disqualifies getting a picture. during the course of the lunch hour, donald trump and his attorneys entered the courtroom about six times. coming in and out of their holding room. there was a period of time in wh

let's bring in vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. dave aaronburg, state attorney for palm beach county, florida. and back with us, ankush kadori. vaughn, what evidence, what witnesses can we expect? >> reporter: i was looking at the witness list here and donald bender is back on the stand. he is the first witness. appeared throughout yesrday afternoon. he was donald trump's personal accountantho w working in the capacity with two key figures from the trump organization totrump's personal tax returns from 2011 through 2020. the second witns at we can anticipate mt likely this afternoon coming to the stand if they get through donald bender is the accountant who has worked with donald trump since then, dating back to2021, cameron harris, a cpa at whitley penn. he's part of their audit team. and then the big two witnesses to follow, this is the witnesses we could expect as soon as tomorrow or the back half of this week are the controller, jeffrey mcconney and the chief financial officer allen weisselberg. both individuals are named in th

here is what he told nbc's vaughn hillyard on the campaign trail over the weekend. >> do you plan to? >> it's a disgrace. >> do you plan to testify? >> it's a rigged -- everything about this city is rigged and this country. it's all rigged. >> why did you overstate the size of your trump tower -- >> why do you read that? can't you remember it? go ahead. go ahead. >> why did you overstate the size of your apartment by $20,000 square feet. >> you said it was -- >> it's a rigged deal. >> could job to vaughn for pressing. the former president will have more on this later in the show. >>> now to the other news of the weekend. the federal government averted a shutdown at least until november 17th. lawmakers averted a shutdown on saturday after managing to agree an stopgap funding measure to keep the government running for 45 more days. president biden signed the bill saturday night with just minutes to spare before the mid night deadline. but yesterday, biden warned of maga republicans trying to thwart the next funding deal. >> i'm sick and tired of the brinksmanship and so are the america

joining me are vaughn hillyard, outside the court in lower manhattan.ormer manhattan assistant d.a. catherine christian and "new york times" reporter jeremy peters. vaughn, cohen and weisselberg have served time concerning their relationship to donald trump. trump is not required to be there. his showmanship is on full display. he is showing up. he is talking to the press. he is attacking the state attorney general. he is in full voice and he is fund-raising. >> reporter: right. this is only the people's court where donald trump sits in the courtroom and then walks out and speaks to camera with his own version of the events. for donald trump, this is day two of sitting inside of the courtroom. it's not clear how many days he intends on being here. if he sticks around long enough, potentially this week, weisselberg, who served time related to state charges in a plea agreement he made as part of a tax fraud scheme at the trump organization, as well as the controller for the trump organization, jeffrey mccony, both will testify as soon as this week. so far

. >> are we expecting from mr justice hillyard, the judge involved, because it will be televised.use it will be televis(when l'rebeginsng that involved, because it will be televis(when l'rebegins ,g that involved, because it will be televis(whenl'rebegins , is hat involved, because it will be televis(whenl'rebegins , is to: shortly when it begins, is to have explain his sentencing. have to explain his sentencing. and i think, in fact, we can get the feed from the court coming up shortly when mrjustice up shortly when mr justice hillyard this is from the old bailey. let's have a listen in to the court proceedings. >> contrary to section two of the treason act, 1842, the maximum penalty for this offence is seven years imprisonment . is seven years imprisonment. >> second, having an offensive weapon . contrary to section one weapon. contrary to section one of the prevention of crime act 1953, the maximum penalty for this offence is four years imprisonment. third, making threats to kill . contrary to threats to kill. contrary to section 16 of the offences against the person act 1861,

joining us now from outside the new york city courthouse is vaughn hillyard with more.trial himself, donald trump is expected to arrive to the courthouse here in lower manhattan for day two of his trial. it is not clear how many days he intends on being here. yesterday on monday, the first day of the trial, he used the opportunity not to willingly testify in front of this judge. he has not indicated yet whether he will go on the stand himself, but instead he used the opportunity to walk out of the courthouse doors and on three different occasions yesterday, once in the morning, once on the lunch break and once in the after to go before cameras and go on a monologue about the pending proceedings. for donald trump, he was quite explicit, saying at one point, quote, this is a disgrace and you ought to go after this attorney general. he also took on the judge in this case, who already had that initial ruling last week. donald trump was joined by his two attorneys, chris koois and alina has been baa. when she went before the judge, she indicated she had intended to speak but

mika. >> nbc's vaughn hillyard, thank you very much.. >> i'll let you launch it to chris. but i'll let you say, this case, i don't think we can underestimate how much this case is a very bad deal for donald trump. compared to the others where he might have highfalutining ideas that he can get around it. but this case hits at the heart of everything he's about, his money, his fortune, the size of things. >> well, we always said, it always goes back to money with donald trump. so, this does hit him right at the heart of what he values the most. and it's far more immediate than some criminal cases. you know, chris, it's fascinating, for years we have said on the show, and we've been able to talk about in america, no man is supposed to be above the law. and yet, donald trump is always above the law. we said that through 2016 and, well, most of 2022, and yet, here we are as the attorney general of new york state just said no man is above the law. laws apply to everybody. here we find, after all of these years of donald trump going back to th

the judge , mrjustice hillyard , the judge, mr justice hillyard, passed this hybrid sentence . sentence. so he's going to this very secure high security psychiatric hospital, broadmoor and then after treatment to jail. so the worst didn't happen . the systems worst didn't happen. the systems did work, but it was a serious breach of royal security. nothing like this has happened since shots were fired, blank shots were fired . in 90 in 1972. shots were fired. in 90 in 1972. two. yes, that's right. no, no, 1981. in the mal when the queen was riding to the trooping of the colour. so serious matter. but a happy outcome except for him . and the odd aspect of it him. and the odd aspect of it was this interference with the artificial intelligence girlfriend , spurring him on to girlfriend, spurring him on to attempt this crime . attempt this crime. >> yeah. i mean, you say that the systems worked and that's what we heard the police chief saying there. but i mean, as you reminded us, this was the queen's last christmas surrounded by her family . she surrounded by her family. she when s