young people in movement were mocking him aiming calling him the lord. they thought he was past his time. >> right. and so -- what so magnificent about the last full night of his life -- is he summon everything he ever was and anything he was in that moment into that speech. s it's like he's taking a journey to his past bringing it up to that moment of currency that night. we could write a book just about that speech. >> and what it meant -- >> right. and how it represented his entire life. >> and we forget we canon nice but we forget that he wasn't on everyone's favorite list during his time. he had doubts. people had doubts about hum both in the white and the black community and about the way the movement was going, and about how he was leading. >> yeah. >> i really believe that if he was alive today he would say -- don't canonize me. i'm just a man had. so when ralph when ralph wrote that great book when walls came tumbling down, he was by many black leaders because -- i was going to portray my friend as the man he was. i'm not going to make him a sai

i sent him that.he knows that he was not born in kenya but political purposes but at the same time he has a bigger picture and understands that i'm an honest journalist and tell it like it is. that's what i try to do. >> what's next book? >> i think this will keep me the publicity has been -- and i'm not thinking about the next book yet but always looking for -- tips and suggestionings. >> great to be with you. >> thank you. [silence] c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's cable televisioning companies. and today, we continue to bring you unfiltered coverage of congress, the white house, the supreme court, and public policy events in washington, d.c. and around the country. c-span is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. [applause] >> i'm suzanne ceo of can america. [applause]

and told him we heard him talking about it, he came forward after we showed him that we had evidence you buried the body. >> the detectives have broken him and the story came spilling out after eight years of lies. it was early morning, january twooun 2002, michael said, when he woke to the sound of gunshots and he called 911. >> my mother -- >> he must have hung up just in time because there's no record of a 911 call from the snyder home that day. ? a few days later in a second interview, michael told police this. >> mom tells me what happened. >> what did she tell you. >> she told me she shot him in defense. she was scared. >> okay. >> told me she shouldn't have done it, sorry, but could you help me with this. i was scared at the time and didn't know what to do. >> so, he says, he reluctantly helped his mother wrap mike snyder's dead body in a waterproof tarp, place it in a hole in the backyard and put some construction waste on top of it. >> what's going through your mind at this time? >> i don't want to get caught. i don't want to go to jail. what am i doing? >> and michael told

to him winning the presidency but that's a constant with him in the white house, in the campaign and in his business. >> in winning this award, the judges said this, that you often convey the feeling of being a fly on the wall of the white house. how have you -- how have you used those 14 years to cover this president, and is it -- is it strategic for you when you hear something about this president to go back to what you learned those 14 years when you covered him as a business man? >> it's always -- there are always certain basic preaccepts about donald trump that i go back to and one of the things that's stymieing for people who are getting to know him that there's some grand play, such as this morning when he called into "fox & friends "got give an interview by phone which he hadn't done for quite some time which he really enjoys doing. i really hope he was hoping to get attention off a hearing involving the epa administrator scott prewitt. i think he was looking to create a new story line, but at the end. day he likes doing these interviews. it feels good to him, and i think peo

him have a little gruff of -- lithograph of him in my office. i acquired it not long after leaving chambers. randall: i turned out to be a legal academic and one of the subjects i read about is race relations law. what could have been better preparation then working for .ustice marshall over the course of the year, one of the great benefits of working for him was he seemed to know everyone. he had many stories and he was very generous with his time. he was very generous with his recollections. i would just ask him lots of questions and it turns out that much of what he shares with me became of use in my professional life as an academic. it is still very much of use. we have been joined by mrs. marshall. welcome. elena i would like to -- we will come back to you. justice kagan: we used to call him judge, tm but never justice marshall. here's one that will not be so surprising. this is one that really brought on the knucklehead appellation. it was a case called -- appellation. -- it was ae called case about a white 12-year-old girl in rural kansas

we stand behind him 1 u.00%. the "washington post" said he may remove his name from consideration can. the white house was blind-sided by a range of allegations within this two-page memo released by democrats on the senate veterans affairs committee. the memo, which cites 23 of jackson's current and former colleagues claims on at least one occasion dr. jackson could not be reached when needed because he was passed out drunk in his hotel room. at a secret service going-away party, he got drunk and wrecked a government vehicle. it alleges he was abusive to his colleagues and would prescribe medication when others would not, earning him the name candyman because he would provide whatever prescriptions they wanted without paperwork >> where are all these allegations coming from? >> i have no idea. >> you have no idea? are you withdrawing your nomination? >> no, i have not wrecked a car. so i can tell you that. that's easy to deduct. >> a number of former obama administration officials defending jackson amid growing q

so i clocked him. that was it. i only clocked him one time. that was it. one punch. that's it. >> stand up. >> it was all over the phone. no this came from another incident. this dry. this came from the other -- when the dude like -- when he took my peanut butter off my tray, i clocked him too. >> [inaudible]. >> people keep trying me. i have to defend myself. >> trying to find out who the aggressor is here. you want to make sure you place disciplinary action on the right individual. and by talking to both individuals it was totally opposite stories on both sides. so we felt it was necessary to go ahead and find some witnesses that could corroborate what the victim was stating to us. >> the other gentlemen came over here to complain about mr. thompson talking on the phone too much. mr. thompson caught wind of that, came running down the steps. by the time i got out here mr. thompson was backing away towards the back. and mr. harris had blood all over himself. >> what did you see? >> it appeared the two of them were in an argument. he came running down the steps and s

they gave him a polygraph.showed he had been deceptive, hiding something. >> what we learned was that he was having an affair with mrs. sutton. >> so montoto hadn't been straight with them or with his good friend and partner john sutton. but was he off the hook for murder? well, maybe. maybe not. when they checked phone records, it appeared he was still being deceptive. he told them the affair had been recent and brief. that's not what the phone records said. did teddy have some secret reason to kill his lover and her husband? they tested him for gunshot residue. he told them he might test positive. he was an expert marksman, had been shooting earlier that day. >> another twist in the story, but what did it mean in terms of the likelihood that he was involved in this incident? >> again, it was early in the investigation. it was a lot of investigating to do. >> and mostly they waited with everyone else to see if john sutton would survive the attack, to see if they would ever be able to ask him what happened. unt

to him winning the presidency. that is a constant with him and his business. >> in winning this award, the judges said this. you often convey the feeling of being a fly on the wall of the white house. how have you used those 14 years to cover this president? is it strategic for you when you hear something about this president to go back to what you learned those 14 years when you covered him as a businessman? maggie: there are always basic precepts about donald trump that i try to go back to. one of the things that has been stymieing for people who are learning about him is the assumption that there is some grand plan at play with most of what he does. like this morning when he called in to fox and friends to do in interview, which he has not been doing in a long time. it is something he loves doing. i think he was looking to create tension, i think he was looking to create a new storyline. at the end of the day, he likes doing these interviews. it feels good to him. i think people overthink the degree to which the

or at least not recently has shown him no loyalty, kicked him to the curb, blew him off when he wentd michael cohen take that large a round, that large a bullet for mr. trump? it would make no sense and it would be a stupid decision on michael cohen's part. >> earlier in the week, you released a sketch. it's the sketch that stormy daniels had given to a sketch artist. and i know you put out a website. have you gotten a lot of responses for it? can you say anything about it? >> we've gotten over 2,000 leads. i would describe probably about 400 of those as being credible. we're spending an enormous amount of time and energy running those to ground. you know, i think a number of them have or show promise. we're going to be very, very careful, anderson, though, as you might imagine, as it relates to identifying that individual and certainly, before we announce anything, because the consequences can be so high. >> michael avenatti, michael, thanks. >> thank you. >>> up next, george h.w. bush greets mourners in houston as they pay their respects to his wife of 73 years, former first lady,

they were shutting him down, shutting him up., the question is will the president learn his lesson? he needs to stop talking. he talks too much. three, when a president is upset like this, it shows you who he is. it shows you the mood of the president and then a lot of times that trickles down to his mouthpiece, his spokesperson, sarah huckabee sanders, going back to your question earlier about the lies, the attitude, the smugness towards us. what we saw here is what translates into sarah huckabee sanders in the briefing room. it was a telling interview. this president, they need to let him -- it's almost like he's the emperor with the new clothes. >> new clothes? >> someone needs to go and say take a listen to this. he really is nailing his coffin shut. >> i need to get phil in. i'm sorry. phil, she's saying he's the emperor with new clothes but maybe no clothes. he's saying, stop. he needs to stop talking. i want to hear what he has to say. >> why the heck would you stop talking? why? he started out as a clown candidate. that c

i never met him and i don't know him. in the book, he comes off as some >> let's start with james comey he wasn't big, he wasn't tall until he got out of high school. you could see how there could be a coming character clash and collision between him and donald trump, who affects the style of a bully, frequently. comey doesn't like bullies. comey's key personality flaw -- there is a certain sanctimonious that he is aware of and writes about. he tends to be holier than thou and is very much by the book. that can rub you the wrong way when you see him making certain decisions that are very questionable, as when he decided to go public with the idea that there were more emails found and he was going to reopen the investigation into hillary clinton two weeks before the election. and that is what caused a storm of protest among democrats. so we can get into the legality of that, but he strikes me as a decent person and one who is clearly flabbergasted and dumbfounded by the trump presidency and donald trump as a man. he called

i have never met with him, spoken to him on the phone, e-mailed with him, face-timed, skyped, so on.dmirer of him. i think he's a journalist. i think he does what journalists do, get information from whistle-blowers and publish it, just like you do here at cnn. my speech before the southwest broward republican club, in which i speak of communication, refers, as i said under oath to the house committee, to a confirming source. in this case, i called him a back channel because it was dramatized in a speech, who told me that yes, indeed -- and this is someone who was close to people on the wikileaks legal team that indeed what assange told cnn in june was accurate, that he had substantial and devastating information that would roil the campaign. he did, and it did. >> was there any exchange of information between you and -- >> no, no. i'm sorry. yes, let me answer your question. i had no advanced notice of the content, source, or exact timing of the wikileaks disclosures including the allegedly hacked e-mails. i never received anything whatsoever from wikileaks, julian assange, or even

claim told him here though it. could put him out of his misery i mean he gave are you laying down there with it so he threatened mark and. so he grabbed a pillow stuck the gun in the pillow tried to have a pillow. darnell or mark. but i know there was a pillow cause he fired shots in the pillow so they put the paint on the head just on the back of his hand someplace else and then they shot him mark that this man with what gun twenty two or over cans can. i said all three of my guns. you want only one i didn't have your stuff. but if all three have a gun why would they go to that creek because clinton says so if they all have a gun you would have to ask them doesn't make any sense to me. that you would prefer. big drug. here's the problem and this is the thing about texas law. there's what's called the law parties now i wasn't indicted as the primary shooter i was tried as a primary shooter i hit all these people they had guns hostage you know or force them all to do everything everybody's got a gun but the person t

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yeah, i see him. what about him? i'll bet you $5 that the jury comes in within two minutes of the time he finishes that cigar. what's that got to do with anything, how long he takes to smoke a cigar? well, the jury have been sitting there all day. they would truly like to have a cigar, too. that's the kind of story. it stays with you. the other one was about, i think it's in one of the books. it might be in laurence fishburne's play, i'm not sure. he came out of the courthouse, i think, in texas. about an hour's drive from dallas where he was staying. so he -- pardon me, he was driving in the morning, being driven there, and picked up by highway patrol somewhere along the way and escorted all the way to the courthouse. when he came out at the end of the day, there was also a police car there and followed him to some place halfway back to dallas. and then dropped off. and when this happened the second day and he got to the courthouse, he went back to talk to the driver of the police car. said what is going on? i mean,

>> and this was people who were below him, not people above him. we were told time and time again, the people above him he treated like gold. people below him, he belittled, skreeled at them. created a toxic environment to the point where the people who worked around him felt like they had to walk on egg shells because of -- because of his lack of respect for their job. >> allegations of sexual harassment, correct? >> none that i know of. >> do you know what sort of -- the allegations of harassment, do you know what that entails? >> a toxic work environment that included screaming, belittling, talking down to employees. and quite frankly, as the secretary of the va, you're the top of the food chain. the second largest of the government. if you start treating your people -- we've got a problem with morale right now in the va. if you start treating the management around you bad, it's going to compound the problem. the veterans of the country deserve better than that. our vetting is not through yet. we still have more information to gather. if this tu

we got word dhs secretary kelly wanted to talk to him. put him through. i'm sitting there next to him, it's clear from the call comey is reassuring him he should not quit. in this administration, they need people who are good moral people to surround the president. when i read in the report from the daily beast today that they're saying, no, it was a quick dismissive call and that wasn't brought up, it's very troubling. it's either he doesn't remember or there are more sinister mote ives. as a former fbi ajecht, reporters will do the same, when you ask someone a question, you start with the little questions, the small things. someone's going to lie to you about a small issue, that means you've got a big problem when you get to the big issues so you take something like this, something as simple as a phone call and you're not getting the truth, it's very troubling ensews our morensew -- >> is you said sinister, misremembered or a flat-out lie. it could be. thank you, all. appreciate it. >>> when we come back, the president and his allies tries to discredit

i'll take him at his word he didn't. passing out sleep iing pills? take him at his word.blem. if he has to drop we're losing a r very, very good person, very high caliber and we're doing it to each other. and if secretary clinton were the president of the united states and she was putting somebody up for the va, they'd be rigorously scrubbing that person and giving a problem to that person so i'm just wonderfing as americans, when with regoing to stop doing this to each other because you're not going to find perfect people. do they do that in france? maybe, but i think we've got to stop doing it here! so qu. >> so you think it would be okay if he was so drunk he couldn't answer the phone when he was on duty to serve the president of the united states and we should get past that? >> no, i think we should look at it, but i think we have to be very careful about searching for perfection. >> we don't know if it's true. it may or may not be true. say it is for the sake of this argument. not sure if that's 100% diseq l disqualifying. >> percocet? >> wrecking a government car wh

man, i hate it for him, i do. i pray for him. my heart goes out to him.t all of the knucklehead stuff, trying to hurt himself. that's not the robert i know. he -- back -- back in the day he wouldn't do that. >> now, another reported strange comment from hill has prompted the jail's consulting psychiatrist dr. harnish to see him for an assessment. >> he told one of our mental health therapists he wanted to cut his head off. we need to see how he's doing now, make sure his medicines are all right, see what we can do to help him stay alive. do remember he? i'm dr. harnish, i'm the psychiatrist. >> seems like i seen you once or twice before but i can't remember exactly where. sometimes i have problems with my memory. >> do you know what the name of this place is here? >> no, not really. >> so you don't know what this facility is? >> not -- it's a treatment center, i know that. >> well, not really. it's a jail. >> a jail? i thought it was -- i thought i was in a treatment center. why was i here? >> i think because of your charges. >> what charges? >> i believe

and they had to cut him off. his most favorable show, the anchors had to cut him off. it's like when i'm trying to get away from the crazy guy at the subway, say i have to go now. that's what they said to the president of the united states. >> i can't give you any money, i've got to go. >>> next we'll also hear what the president had to say about whether he ever watches cnn. spoiler alert, he says he doesn't, he says he does and round and round it went. what it means, if anything at all, next. achiever. behr premium plus, "behr" through it all with a top-rated paint at a great price. find it exclusively at the home depot. claritin and relief from of non-drowsy symptoms caused by over 200 allergens. like those from buddy. because stuffed animals are clearly no substitute for real ones. feel the clarity and live claritin clear. 3 toddlers won't stop him.. and neither will lower back pain. because at a dr. scholl's kiosk he got a recommendation for our custom fit orthotic to relieve his foot, knee, or lower back pain, from being on his feet. dr. scholl's. born to move. if

then rehired him later and then fired him again.as that he is part of this kind of rotating cast of, like, kind of weird characters that trump has always liked to have around him who are all sort of aspiring mini trumps, you know. >> seth: yeah. >> you know? like they dress like him. they kind of take on his affect and his like, his linguistic stylings. like they'll use the same words as him. and they all try to mimic his kind of performance. and it's funny because, like, you know, he fires people and hires people all the time. but even now in the white house, he keeps people like that around. and he sets up this kind of -- the environment he fosters is sort of like "the hunger games." where he puts -- he pits his aides against each other and kind of feels like whoever is able to survive and emerge victorious, that's the best person to have around him. >> seth: and so the reports obviously of chaos -- well it seems like what you're saying is he likes chaos, but he does not care for the reports of chaos. >> right. he likes chaos. he

book at him.indicted for malice murder, the first person ever to be accused of using a hot car to intentionally kill a child. >> stunning and damning new details emerge. >> reporter: the case became a media sensation with more revelations. investigators said ross had done internet research on hot car death and even visited an online forum for people interested in living a child-free life. a monstrous pore tras was emerging. but even after weighing all the allegations, ross' friends were still convinced he never meant to hurt cooper. did you ever hear ross get frustrated with cooper? >> no. >> reporter: treat him like he was a burden at times? >> no. >> reporter: because you know there are times when kids can get on our nerves. >> no. no. there are times when you definitely need a break. okay? but he loved that boy. >> reporter: ross harris' family enlisted the help of defense attorney maddox kilgore and his team. >> the entire case was a house of cards. we felt that, despite public sentiment, and

the cops found him, staked him out. beach cottage where he and michelle were in for a big surprise. >> following a developing story out of florida, a woman wanted for the murder of her husband, a pope airman, has been arrested in florida. >> at the time of her arrest inside the apartment, we found magazines describing ways to go under cover in the united states, obtain new identity. >> books, too, on learning spanish, travel guides for several latin countries, an array of fake ids. and then there was michelle's appearance. >> she had changed her appearance, cut and dyed her hair, had had some plastic surgery done. >> do you feel anything at all to say? >> a few days later, michelle, her face still red and swollen and smeared with ointment from cosmetic surgery was driven back to fayetteville. she was charged with first degree murder and locked up without bail. two years later, in september 2004 after turning down a plea deal that would have imprisoned her for the ten years, the prosecutor laid out his case against miche

he's pushing michael cohen away from him a little bit. pushing him out of the boat. that is a dangerous game for someone in the situation that the president is in where ultimately michael cohen could flip on him. >> it's a schizophrenic. even as he does that, i've got lots and lots of lawyers, i'm sure the coffee boy is coming next, he's also pardoned scooter libby, was tweeting over the weekend about pardoning a boxer that sylvester stallone suggest he pardon. he's putting a lot of different very significant signals out into the ether, isn't he? >> the folks on the receiving end of these messages -- that's what they are -- sort of catch them and run with them. not to take the metaphor too far. to matt's point, i was a prosecutor for a long time, nicolle, and it's true. folks often come in defiant. they're going to take a bullet, they're going to do this, they're going to do that, they're never going to cooperate until metaphorically speaking there is a loaded weapon pointed at them. the way prosecutors work this -- this is important -- they don't give favorable trea

people think they can play him and move him and manipulate him to achieve their own ends.ron thinks he can move him by charming him. what happened? paris accord, we pulled out. what's going to happen with iran? we see the rhetoric ratcheted up. part of what we have to understand is that trump's narcissism overdetermines everything. this is not going to play well for macron. in france right now because the public sector is slehrinking, because he's attacki ining trad unions, 15,000 plus folk came out in the street. he has a rating of 58% of the folk are unhappy with his presidency even though he's perhaps the most powerful president since degall. >> we see time and time again the president decide that foreign relations were his own personal relations with chairman xi, with vladimir putin of course. that's one of the concerns people have about whatever settlement we might have with north korea. he's going to get in there and try and find some rapport with kim jong-un, which is a far cry from little rocket man just a few months ago. suddenly he's changed his tone because he s

with the door, i managed to get him with one hand on the gun and i grabbed it from him and threw itr to counterpart. >> life and death struggle continued with shaw fighting all the way outside and at that point he was able to break free from him and run away. police are conducting the massive man hunt to capture him. this is not first run-in with the law, he was arrested by the secret service for trying to enter restricted area near the white house in august. police seized four weapons he owned, somehow the weapons got back possibly through his father, they are saying. heather: a lot more to look into this story. let's hope they find him quickly before anybody ends up injured. kelly: real quickly, he's believed to be armed. heather: okay, believed to be armed. death toll in afghanistan has risen to 57. terrorist group claiming responsibility. fourth attack on the election process since voter registration started on saturday. officials say at least 5 small children were killed and more than a dozen were wounded. the syrian military held districts in demascus, isis has held the area f

amazing. >> i asked him about that, and i asked him about attorney client privilege because he says heresents the president. all of that is in the video that will be posted online. david frum, ron klain, thank you both for joining us. really appreciate it. we'll be right back. people said it just made a mess until exxonmobil scientists put it to the test. they thought someday it could become fuel and power our cars wouldn't that be cool? and that's why exxonmobil scientists think it's not small at all. energy lives here. brbut how will his dentured to thicope with... a steak. luckily for brad, this isn't a worry because he's discovered super poligrip. it holds his denture tight and helps give him 65% more chewing power. leaving brad to dig in and enjoy the tastiest of t-bones. super poligrip, helping you enjoy the foods you love. ♪ ♪ ♪ raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens ♪ ♪ bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens ♪ ♪ brown paper packages tied up with strings ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ these are a few of my favorite things ♪ or a cnything-o.. but i'v

it took him two months. >> you come when called. >> it took a year for him to say that he is clearingf you have vital information in the national interest you come forward before your book. this man had no political instincts. he was wrong about the election as were many people. last night he tells george stephanopoulos i didn't vote because the fbi director should be independent. you can't cast a private ballot in the mail? he didn't vote because he thought hillary clinton was going to win. >> it does matter because last night he gave a free political commercial. >> by no one's measure helpful to her. had he done the same thing to donald trump you would have been going nuts about it. >> she had no message. that's beside the point about what comey's role was. >> like a couple hundred people. >> that's besides the point. >> she ignored wisconsin and michigan. >> i think those are fair points but beside the point of comey's influence. let me play something else for you that he said last night that i want your take on. >> at least in my experience he won't criticize vladimir putin even i

it's clearly something that really bothers him. has bothered him. continues to bother him. the why, i know some people roll their eyes and say with e know. i would say we don't know based on the fact but we do know it bothers him. >> okay, so, listen, let me ask you just this about -- you can understand how this might bother someone's wife. >> yeah. >> any husband would be concerned about that, but i think it's sort of weird in the phrasing where he says, if she even believes this 1% if it's not true, then, you know -- you can understand why he's concerned about his wife and, i mean, this is really salacious. >> that's right. i think it would be -- i mean, comey writes in the book that he found it odd that that conversation was happening and that the comments on the husband/wife dynamic with melania and donald trump. i will not go into that, i learned long ago not to judge other people's marriages and relationships. so i do think -- i think we have to say this is a possibility that for whatever reason he wants to lock this up from a third party to say this did not happen, t

if he's a subject and not yet a target and want him to become a target, they're going to ask him questions, the answers to which will move him into that target category. >> he's not yet the president's lead criminal defense lawyer but the president doesn't have a lead criminal defense lawyer anymore. so andrew is probably as close as we'll get. let's bring in josh ernest and the rest of the panel is back with us. i'm joking, of course, about andrew, he's happy at fox news he doesn't need to represent the president. he's on fox and friends this morning. he knows he's talking to the president and actually does direct his comments to the president from time to time in his advise. and he like john dowd, who was handling the defense in the prosecution, is firmly against this president going under oath talking to anyone, avoid it at all possible costs and it seems the deposition case we saw on the stormy daniels case on air force one today is a good example why don't you want him going under oath. >> i think it's established after seeing president trump in the oval office for a little over a yea

from berlin and it's berlin where the catalan separatist leader says he wants to stay carlos pushed him on says he plans to remain here in the german capital while a court looks at spanish demands to extradite him he faces charges in connection with last year's independence referendum also coming up a standoff in brazil former president luis announcer just silva ignores a deadline to turn himself in to begin a twelve year sentence for corruption and wins defiance says the stage for a confrontation between his supporters and those who want to see him behind bars. and the u.s. state of texas sends in the national guard to patrol the border with mexico this comes after president donald trump said he wanted the deployment until his border wall is built. thanks for joining us i'm mary in evanston. former catalonian president carlos pugh's demond says he plans to live in berlin while the courts consider a spanish extradition request against him even speaking at a news conference here in the german capital just a day after being released on bail after a court in northern germany refused to sen

it was hard for him. being constantly surveilled by the government, being challenged by rifle leaders, and -- >> host: have marches disrupted by the invaders. >> guest: he only met malcolm x1. they were on different paths. thurgood marshall was on a different path. he didn't believe in life on the street to protest. he thought law imposing of the things, that was his life as a litigator. there were many paths to equal rights and civil rights with different people advocate. the pressure was incredible on him and every time he would make a new roof like expand to economic justice, economic rights, poor people everywhere, the vietnam war, military missions abroad, it would create controversy and divisions and it would cause him to have self-doubt. it's not as though he was a man at the height of his triumph in april 68, fully confident in command of an entire movement. yet gone through a series of challenges and doubts. and so that's why i think one reason his speech on the night of april 3, 1960 is so magni

he'd let him -- maybe she was protecting him a little bit maybe. although i don't think his father was -- certainly not brutal and maybe not too intrusive in that way. but you know, he had to work. >> he was a task master. >> you had to get the crops in and everything. but then she says at one point that his mind, abraham's mind, and mine, such as it was, were alike. and i just think, you know, lady, you really did a good job. we really owe you a lot. you know, don't say such as your mind was. you really helped save this country by getting the stepson of yours and encouraging him. >> and she realized in abe immediately something special, even more so than with her own children, and she nurtured and fostered that. >> that's right. >> that reading and that level of literature. >> that's right. and her kids, first son, bonds with thomas lincoln because he's like thomas lincoln. he just wants to be a subsistence farmer. that's his goal in life. and there's an anchored correspondent between him and abraham lincoln, because he's living with thomas lincol

is going to make him -- has already made him less apt to spend time and energy defending donald trump. >> the president makes these calls. among those called is jay goldberg who worked for the trump organization back in the day. here's what he told cnn. anybody who faces 30 years never stands up. without exception a person facing a prison term cooperates. i say people who face a prison term invariably become government witnesses. that's what mr. goldberg said he told the president of the united states. how do you think the president of the united states reacts when he is told by an attorney who he trusts that he might flip? >> he has the tendency to take that final input as the decisive one. the interesting question here is, "flip" implies that michael cohen has information that is damaging -- not just damaging, legally damaging, to the president of the united states. you can't flip if there's nothing there. so i'm a little intrigued by the assumptions built into mr. goldberg's comments. >> exactly right. implied in the conversation is there's something for the president to be worried

him remember how much they like him and motivates them to turn out. where it all puts pressure all these issues from the tax cut, legislation to the census debate is how it effects republicans in purple states or swing states in swing districts, right? whether it's new jersey or what have you, that's where the rubber is going to meet the road. the president's gamble for him is it's a win either way. if he can dehinnish the representation in states like california, that helps him. but if it does depress turnout or circumstances for enough of those republicans in the philly suburbs and new jersey, in some parts of california where this house sort of path lies, then that's the gamble and we won't know until november. >> it also effects the maps going forward. when the state legislators redraw -- >> that's my point. if he's successful and it goes forward -- >> that could mean something in terms of a congressional districts, certainly in terms of federal funding as well. we'll see where this goes. >>> coming up, the house majority whip makes a fund-raising

and he was very stern with him. basically lecturing -- the president lecturing bobby kennedy on not doing things that's going to interrupt or disrupt the peace settlement in vietnam. you can tell then that the two people did not have the warmest of relationships. mr. scully: of course, that settlement did not take place in 1968. former rep. jones: right. mr. scully: take us back to the evening of march 31. the speech is over. you're in the white house. paint a picture. what was it like? what was lady bird johnson saying to president johnson, what was the interactions with president johnson, what are you seeing and hearing? former rep. jones: well, after the speech the president went into the little office off the oval office and received and made phone calls. one of the interesting phone calls was to nelson rockefeller -- because -- or rockefeller to him, because he was the governor of new york. johnson had developed a warm relationship with governor rockefeller and had encouraged him, on this night, to run for elec

so pardon him for what? president trump issued the scooter libby patterned days after michael cohen and president trump were shocked by the fbi raid on michael cohen's home, his office, his hotel room, and his safety deposit box in manhattan. several observers have noted that the sudden patterned of scooter libby in the same week as the michael cohen raid was probably intended to show michael cohen how ready the president is to use his patterned power for his old friend michael cohen. and after pardoning scooter libby, president trump delivered the message through one of scooter libby's lawyers that he didn't even really care about scooter libby. >> i saw him, and i talked to him when he gave scooter libby a patterned. and he was thrilled. he called me and he said, listen, i don't know this guy. all i know is he got screwed, and i am so happy to give him his life back. >> the message to michael cohen is if he'll patterned scooter libby, obviously he'll patterned you. listen, i don't know this guy is trump sp

not my job to hate him or like him. and get to work with these people and there should be an adversarial relationship, i am still what -- i'm working on it. we are so tribal now. and so many friendships have broken up, you are over there and i am over here. it changed the dynamic and what happened? with that, when we are tribal we have people who dislike donald trump who are actually received death threats. i'm tired of saying it is just me. if i put it out there the atmosphere will change. and the people who think i am against the pres. are threatening me. there are other people who have gotten death threats. it is not just me. we need, the heat needs to be dialed down. my boss came into the white house, it is not just me saying, we are getting death threats. we have got do something. it comes from the head, the pres. and tonight is a big night for us. the freedom of the press, freedom of the press, press freedom, white house correspondents association dinner, the pres. is not attending. maybe today could be that shift

and they say to him, "a-ha! you're the crown prince." nc>> narrator: the crown ps grandfather-- they called him popeye-- was a legendary admirar in war ii, here posing with mccain's father in japan on the day the japanese surrendered. with the family legacy of service and duty, mc reluctantly had followed them to the naval academy. >> "i was an arrogant, undisciplined, insolent midspman who felt it necessa to prove my mettle by challenging authority. >> he graduated fifth from the bottom of his class, and he managed to accumulate, as he calls it, a very impressive catalogue of demerits. >> he may not have wanted to go to the naval academy, but he got in because of who his dad was. he didn't get thrown out because of who his dad was, despite his best efforts. aneverything in his life w because of what his last name was. >> it's hard to grow up in a family with the military legacy that his family had., i meanit goes back to george washington's general sff. that stuff is there, it's like tmosis. so john's got all s

we shouldn't praising him, we should be taking him down, taking him off of air instead of giving him minute after minute. we should talk about the economy, syria, the drug crisis. instead we are going to talk about jim comey. you guys will cover it endlessly all day today, all day tomorrow and my guess is every day next week with little time given to the issues that the people care about. the president has every right to call out that individual that you guys are propping up and say there are problems and that we should be concerned about it. charlie. >> thank you sarah. this morning, james comey admitted that he didn't tell the president about the political -- >> i'm sorry. can you speak up. >> this morning james comey said he didn't inform the president of the political source of the dasier. was the president surprised to hear that? did director comey ever tell him about the sourcing of the political dossier against him? >> i'm not sure about that specific conversation but i know that it's been documented many times over now that the dossier is false opposition research funded by t

they tackled him in front of his hotel. they viewed him as a threat. hearing those stories brings a whole different thing to mainstream america that, without video, they would it really believe it exists. brian: have you ever talked to cops about why they do this? or maybe they don't do it, but they have seen their colleagues do it. etan: we have had four rooms with policemen. forums with policemen. we did great forums at my church where we talk to big groups of youth. after kaepernick took a knee, they had these forums with the police in different cities to have the police here from the -- hear from the community and have the community hear from the police. so, yes, i have had a lot of different experiences as far as having police that they forums. the thing about it is, there are good cops and there are bad cops. there's good police and there are bad police. everybody is not one way. everybody is not bad. everybody is not great. when you have a policeman, first of all, that recognizes that reality and recognizes that there are things that need to cha

there are people -- people around him, hitting him like the gridiron. i think he had a good time. let's flash back. he had dinner, beat him that night. >> it was a charity dinner. he lost the room. he was so mean. he got booed. >> you know what he said. he said she's here to pretend she doesn't hate catholics. he was so rough. >> he is permitting white house staff. >> thank you. poor guy. >> i have nothing to add other than if he feels like we have to come to an understanding with him -- >> would you sign the -- >> for seven days. we'll see who this comedian is. thank you. coming up, the russia probe, mueller's investigators are reportedly tracking down president trump's business partners. even showing up unannounced ate subpoenas. this investigation is an iceberg. there's a lot happening, plus, president trump now says he didn't know about the hush money payment to stormy daniels. and what is the worst case scenario for stormy question. i'm going find out tonight because i know how bad this can get or can he skip on this thing and finally, outgoing trade gowdy goes bullworth. it'

, but he gave him the out. without saying goodbye, i told him i wouldn't do it and why do you want this? you have a great family, you have a great life, you're a great doctor. why do you want to deal with these democrats? he said it's his choice, but if i were him, i wouldn't be abused by a bunch of politicians. clearly they've had a conversation and the president said to him, your decision, but if i were you, don't do it, which, you know, reading between the lines means the president understands there are real problems there. >> yeah. the president saying he never heard of any of these allegations against dr. ronny jackson. >> he would be vetted, okay? >> you're over there in the newsroom watching these conversations. what do you think? >> reporter: it's clear that the president opened the door for dr. ronny jackson to make a decision and potentially step down from his nomination at the veterans affairs department. these are the strongest words we have heard from the white house and the president. just a few h

here you can see him. he took a sound track around the county courthouses and most of the counties in the state of missouri. a new deal for the state of missouri. i want you to see. this is his diary that he kept throughout the campaign. as soon as he makes that announcement, he is essentially on the campaign trail. milligan and cochran, those were the two individuals who were running against. they were in congress. congress was still in session. yet he said, oh, i'm not really campaigning. but he is campaigning all the way until congress adjourns in june. he is campaigning all the way from here to the end of june and july. now, what you see -- and i will not be able to see that here -- he mentions, these are the individuals he is going into. he leaves independence and goes to liberty. he goes over to, i believe this one is fulton, missouri on saturday. if you scroll down, you see young democrats. he's got an ok by it. so there is a young democratic faction that had organized itself and he wants to know wh

let's just take him home and let him sleep it off? >> yeah, i'm assuming he was friends one of the girls or something like that. >> and he figured he'll bring them here to my house, get some beers, and be -- young adults, you know teenagers. >> drinking. >> drinking. i'm sure they were smoking also. >> smoking weed? >> yes. >> and yet, that impromptu party turned into, perhaps, one of the biggest mistakes of his life. >> oh, yeah. yeah. absolutely. >> reporter: doreen says one of those mistakes her son's decision to invite neighborhood "bad apple," antonio russo known for his long dreadlocks and a penchant for picking fights. >> so tell me about antonio russo. >> he was a bit of a wild child. he was younger than all the other boys. >> he was more of a street kid, he didn't have the support system at home that john giuca and many of john's other friends had. >> he's known to be a marijuana dealer. >> reporter: antonio russo, aka tweed, is said to supply the weed. >> at one point after mark had been at this house for about an hour or so

it is just going through with him.nts they have produced according to the different reporting we have seen over many months. it does sound like the white house has produced and the campaign has produced a lot of information. there's a lot of documents they need to review for him. and the preparation of the witness. how will he act in the interview? will he be evasive? how does he respond to questions. there is a substantive piece and the personal dynamic of a person sitting down for an interview and how he comes across. >> this is different than a civil deposition. he has been truthful and not in them. the latter, in front of a federal investigator, is a heavy implication. >> thank you both very much. coming up in minutes, we will speak with stormy daniels's attorney, michael avenatti, about what his next move is in that case. >>> all right. the last two living members of isis known as the beatles. now they are speak out. you don't want to miss. and other parts of south america. like these mountains, each amazing on th

about the cases against him. i guess i wonder, how confident are you in the president's current mental state? fitness, where he's at? >> well, i don't know about that. but i do think it's really important to protect mueller's investigation. i think it is essential. i was grateful that from the committee today. there's bipartisan legislation to protect that investigation. and if he is fired by the president, that there be a stay and all evidence will be preserved, while a judge can review whether or not he was fired for cause. this investigation has to be continued. i think we've seen a lot of evidence already about different concerns that we have whether it's money laundering, whether it's interference of our election by russia, whether there's collusion, whether there's obstruction of justice. there's still investigations that need to be completed. i want to see this investigation to its fruition. >> do you think mitch mcconnell should bring that bill to the floor? >> he certainly should. it's a bipartisan bill

him. as part of a payment to adult film star stormy daniels, listen. >> how much -- mr. president, how much of your legal work was handled by michael cohen? >> a percentage of my overall league work, a tiny, tiny little fraction, but michael would represent me and represent me on some things. he represents me like with this crazy stormy daniels deal. he represented me. >> shortly after that interview, attorneys for the southern district of new york added a new legal filing in cohen's case. citing some of the president's comments. they specifically mentioned that trump said cohen performs a quote tiny, tiny little fraction of his overall legal work. prosecutors argue that proves that relatively few of the documents seized in the cohen raid are likely to be confidential communications between cohen and trump. that's potentially a problem. retired federal judge barbara jones was appointed special master yesterday, and will decide what documents may contain communications protected by attorney