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i spoke with democratic congressman jim himes right before air. congressman himes, cnn's new reporting that lieutenant colonel vindman testified that he was concerned -- or he was convinced there was in fact a quid pro quo, how consequential is that confirmation from him given his firsthand knowledge of so many pieces of this puzzle? >> yeah. anderson, i don't want to get into what was said behind closed doors, but obviously colonel vindman's opening statement was made available. you know, i want to sort of downplay the importance of this so-called quid pro quo. quid pro quo is what the defenders of the president are saying is essential for the president to have been guilty of something. it's not. and, you know, people have read the transcript. we know that the president tried to pressure a foreign new and vulnerable president to do his political dirty work. so no quid pro quo is required. obviously a quid pro quo makes the situation more serious, but i would also point out, anderson, that the chief of staff, mick mulvaney, two weeks ago went befo

what do you make of congressman himes saying a quid pro quo isn't the be all end all here? >> ultimately that's a judgment for congress. they're the ones who define what an impeachable offense is. it's worth noting that colonel vindman was so outraged by the president's conduct before he knew about whether there was a quid pro quo at all, he went to his superiors to express his concerns about that phone call, saying only that the president is asking a leader of a foreign country for political favors. that's all he was concerned about. that's not a quid pro quo. but it is a very disturbing thing. it was to him. and it may be to congress as well. so, the issue of quid pro quo is one that, you know, has evolved from the evidence. there is certainly no law that says you can't impeach a president unless you find a quid pro quo. that's up to congress. >> john dean, we don't know what bolton would testify to. we're not -- there's no way of knowing exactly, other than reports that he had described some of giuliani's stuff as a drug deal. do you think bolton is looking for legal or

himes, you have been in the room. how many republicans have been present during these closed door depositions and are they asking questions? >> yes, they are. so it's a very interesting answer to that question because it has not been members of the intelligence committee present there on the republican side. most of the questions on both sides have been asked by lawyers, by attorneys for the majority and the minority and that's important because oftentimes they're trained in ways that the members are not trained, but the reason that's a particular interesting question, it hasn't been so much members of the intelligence committee, republican members, it has been the president's most vocal defenders. so when mitch mcconnell says the president doesn't have people in the room, guess who's been in the room, almost every deposition. jim jordan, mark meadows, lee zeldon has adopted this role of aggressive defender of the president. it has been those three and a couple of others that have been there. someone will accuse me of

connecticut democrat commerce been jim himes -- congress in jim himes discusses the impeachment inquiry. watch washington journal at seven clock easter this morning. join the discussion. former trump advisor george papadopoulos spoke in west palm beach florida about the origins of the counterintelligence investigation into russia and the 2016 trump campaign. papadopoulos pleaded guilty to making false statements to fbi agents about the timing and possible significance of his contacts related to u.s.-russian relations during the term presidential campaign. he served 12 days in federal prison. [applause]

connecticut democrat jim himes shares the latest on the impeachment inquiry. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern. join the discussion. next, a discussion on president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria and the impact on the region. speakers include the former state department national security council and pentagon officials from the george w. bush administration. this is about 90 minutes.

joining me is democratic congressman jim himes, a member of the house intelligence committee and congressman, we do understand that there is this second whistleblower who has firsthand knowledge of the events surrounding the phone call between president trump and the leader of ukraine. what does this add to the case you're all making? >> well, good morning, john. hard to know because, of course, nobody has actually seen what this purported second whistleblower has to say. presumably that will change this week. i'm glad this individual, by the way, is going through the whistleblower process. that's what the first whistleblower did, it's the right thing to do. i've made the point to a couple of people now, i sort of get a kick out of the president's rage on twitter at adam schiff, nancy pelosi, at the democrats. as a democrat in the room i will tell you, we're like a bunch of folks in the outfield just catching constant pop flies coming from people actually in the room or in and around the president. you know, the first whistleblower certainly that was true of, the media now for weeks has been

joining us now, jim himes. thanks so much for joining us. and let's get right to that press briefing. did tacting white house chief of staff, mick mulvaney, actually corroborate some of the whistle-blower's initial report? >> reporter: well, of course, he did. i mean, again, you know, he said that one of the three reasons for military aid to have been held up was the very political objective of making sure the ukrainians were assisting on this conspiracy theory, that the ukraine was somehow involved in the 2016 election interference. a point, of course, that our entire intelligence community and anybody who pays attention to this knows is completely specious. but what's important here is that that is a political interest of the president of the united states. the chief of staff just confirmed that it was a factor in the holdup of congressionally appropriated military aid to a vulnerable country. now, quickly, let me point out that it's been the defense of the republicans around here and the president that there was no quid pro quo. okay, we'

congressman himes, let's start with you. we heard from ambassador marie yovanovitch, somebody who testified to your committee. despite the fact that the white house ordered her not to do so, tell us how important is she to this inquiry. >> she's very important to one of the parts of the inquiry. apart from the president holding up aid to ukraine, expecting to get a commitment that there would be an investigation of his political opponent, the moving of that transcript to the secret server, the third piece that's deeply concerning is a united states ambassador who mere aske her tour for a year, is then summarily told to get on the next plane to washington to be removed from her post for what f appears to be giuliani's effort with his various minions to achieve whatever aims giuliani was trying to achieve in ukraine. this has nothing to do with the united states foreign policy interests, but the president's personal interests and rudy giuliani's interests. she's very important. she's an example of abusing the american public t

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joining us now is congressman jim himes, a member of the intelligence committee, one of the hearingshat will be hearing that deposition tomorrow. sir, thanks very much for your time tonight. >> hi, rachel. >> so we've watched the deposition schedule change a little bit and we've watched as the sort of calendar has shifted in terms of who's actually expected to turn up. do you think that the state department will try to block ambassador taylor from being there tomorrow? >> well, they may. but what's remarkable about the last couple of weeks is despite the three or four-page letter that congress got from the white house saying, we're not helping you, this is a fake inquiry, it turns out that actually state department people, retired and not retired are showing up for their depositions. i do imagine that mr. taylor will show up and i imagine that the rest of the witnesses will. obviously, we got delayed a bit because my colleague, elijah cummings' memorial service will be at the end of the this week. but things are moving along, despite that bizarre letter from the white house saying th

host: congressman jim himes back at our table, a democrat.alk about how the impeachment inquiry was launched and how it is being conducted. here is the senate majority leader. >> now that speaker pelosi has crumbled and allowed her left-wing impeachment caucus to dictate the house's actions. i don't think many of us were hoping to witness a clinic in terms of fairness or due process. even by all partisan standards, democrats have found new ways to lower the bar. this is about the most consequential process the house of representatives could possibly engage in, overruling american voters and nullifying an election. surely, any such process much -- must be conducted with fairness and transparency. it must be held to the most exacting of standards and yet, house democrats have wasted no time throwing fairness and precedent to the wind. already, they have denied their republican counterparts certain minority rights like equal subpoena power, that republicans provided democrats during the clinton impeachment. already they have made clear that pres

host: connecticut democrat jim himes, member of the house intelligence committee am a part of this process, he was on sunday shows yesterday. talked a little bit about timing. this is what he had to say. [video clip] >> this is no way for the republicans to defend the actions of the president here. what the chief of staff, mick mulvaney, said. no way to defend that behavior. as a result, they are attacking the process. let me spend a second on that process. the previous impeachment inquiries of nixon and clinton -- a special prosecutor star in the case of nexen by different special prosecutor. we are doing that now and an investigation does not happen in the light of day. there will be open hearings every transcript after classified information will be released publicly. this will ultimately be all out there for the american people to see and with the american people will see as there is not one word of testimony, written or spoken, which contradicts the notion that the president used the assets of the united states military aid, white house meeting, to advance his political interest of ge

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himing really came out of testifying in front of congress. ,e had a $5 billion ftc fine which is just a slap on the wrist in many respects. , he has had a pretty good track record of coming up against the u.s. government and winning, so it is not surprising to me that he thinks it would totally "suck," in his words, but also, a little surprising to be declaring victory so soon before it happens. taylor: yes. let me bring you in here. from your perspective, how concerned are companies like facebook and big tech when they think about someone like elizabeth warren getting the presidency. >> thanks for having me here. what you are seeing is mark zuckerberg being very excited and being very transparent in his discussion about what is going on. now there are a lot of , businesses, not just in the tech sector but across the entire spectrum that are worried , about the notion of just being broken up because they are big, and what you are seeing here today is mark zuckerberg talking about the rule of law and the fact that under the existing rule of law, the government just does not have a case

spoke about this and more with democratic congressman and house intelligence committee member jim himescongressman, what do you make of "the washington post" reporting the idea that vladimir putin might have helped color president trump's view of ukraine? it does seem another example of something that at this point is shocking but i guess not surprisi surprising. >> yeah, i read that story and i guess i'm not surprised. i didn't happen to be in that particular moment of the temperature. i'm not at all surprised if that is true. if vladimir putin has every interest in causing our president to believe that ukraine, apparently all the things that the president believes, it's a corrupt country beyond repair, if putin can have the president thinking and the president of grhungary has its n reasons, it can drive a wedge and allow putin to succeed in controlling half of that country, retain crimea and do whatever he wants in ukraine. >> at least part of what the post is reporting comes from what george kent told congress an investigators last week, you said you weren't there for that part of i

hime is no issue here on profiting from this in any way, shape, or form. the difference between this and the bidens? first of all, there is no profit here. one difference that you look at between a trump family and the biden family, the trump family made their money before they came into politics. any idea about cost estimate, how much you are looking at? will it remain a g7? >> i don't have the numbers in terms of the cost. one of the ones i saw was almost don't want to- i butcher the numbers but it was millions cheaper by doing it at doral. as to the g7, g8, that discussion is ongoing. the president has been ongoing, candid about what he wants russia to join that organization. he has been fairly straightforward not only to you folks that leaders around the world. .e go to the g7 what dominates so much of the discussion? , russian energy, military policy, the economy dominates a lot of the discussion. wouldn't it be better to have them inside as part of the conversations? that decision will be made later. we will continue to review it. >> [inaudible] sure

what else do you need or do you believe that texts are enough for jim himes for connecticut to vote yes on articles of impeachment about this activity and on what basis? >> well, i don't want to, you know, we haven't seen any articles, we've seen a fact pattern here and it's not a disputed fact pattern, it's a really ugly fact pattern. there's one piece, chris, though, that we need to know more about and i think we'll learn more about next week. you had the apparent withholding of $400 million in military aid to a country under attack by the russians. you have the compromise of the particularly classified server in the white house. i don't know if that's illegal or not. it's pretty ugly because it looks like a coverup. the third thing just to answer your question here, it looks like an ambassador may have been fired because she wasn't going along with the con, and that's a piece of it that we need to know a lot more about. and, again, if this ambassador was fired because she didn't go along with what rudy giuliani wanted, number one, that's appalling in and of itself. number two, i'm ju

jim himes, on the intelligence committee, he's a democrat from connecticut. very in the mix on these investigationing. he wants to hear from him. so we'll have to see, is that a separate investigation from whatever impeachment inquiry they're do specifically on ukraine or end up expanding it to include something like these allegations we're seeing here today. >> lastly, richard, back to you. circumventing official government channels, sweeping aside procedures. should this be part of articles of impeachment? >> well, what we see here is illegal conduct by, or an attempt at illegal conduct by rudy giuliani. we don't know exactly what the president's role is, but the president seems to be encouraging this. we could include this, that articles of impeachment. i have to say, there already are so many examples of corruption on the part of this president. obstruction of justice and other criminal conduct that we can investigate. there are so many examples of corruption on the part of this president. we can investigate every in the next month or two to do that. they

joining me is democratic congressman jim himes on the intelligence committee and heard ambassador taylor'sny. you were asked yesterday, congressman, if your jaw was still on the floor after hearing that and you responded, still there. what do you mean? >> well, john, it was pretty startling testimony. when the ambassador got done with his opening statement which is now public so we can talk about it under the rules, you could hear a pin drop in the room. it was some of the most detailed, specific testimony. it wasn't some of the most. it was the most detailed and specific testimony we have heard in these many depositions about the holding up of military aid. and not just military aid but a meeting in the white house. that line still resonates with me. it's in the opening statement where the ambassador says that ambassador sondland says that everything -- everything is contingent. i know we're having this long conversation about what the definition of a quid pro quo is, but there's no question from his testimony that everything in the words of ambassador sondland are contingent on the ukrai

. >> that's what congressman jim himes was saying this morning is one of his key questions, to hear from what was it that led to her removal. was it she wouldn't go along with it? >> the president's line, what was it, certain things are going to happen to her or something in that call. >> thank you very much. it did not take long for the white house to dismiss this second whistleblower. joe johns joins us this morning outside the white house. even though some of the circumstances here are different, again, a firsthand knowledge being one of them, still being dismissed by the administration? >> right. well the bottom line from stephanie grisham over here at the white house is that the president did nothing wrong, so it doesn't matter how many whistleblowers there are out there. also important to say the president tweeted just this morning once again, discrediting this second whistleblower. you know he has a history of that goes all the way back even before robert mueller who he went after with a vengeance, the president this morning writing the party san whistleblower, apparently referrin

let's bring in-house intel committee member jim himes in the thick of all of this. he was in the briefing today with the intel community's i. g. he heard what volker had to say. congressman, great to have you and thank you. so what can you tell us that is of importance to the audience about what you learned from the i.g. today? >> i can't get into the details of what we learned and this was sort of a follow-up meeting because remember we heard from him when the so-called transcript had not yet been released so he wasn't able to talk about the substance of this. all he would talk about was the process he followed. look, what's becoming clear here i sort of chuckle watching my twitter feed as the president attacks adam schiff over and over again. the problem the president has is of course not with adam schiff but with the people around him including the whistle-blower and i don't anything more than you do on this possibility of a second whistle-blower, but of course there were leaks to "the new york times" and leaks to "the washington post" from people that were clear

kelly there for a little while, mattis was there for a little while, we had sane people controlling himeare gone and this guy is spinning wildly out of cotr, and i think that could be a conclusion people would reach. >> wchdruff: in fact, mrk, w reported tonight we learned mitch mcconnell, senate republican leader, has written washington post" saying it was a grave mistake what the president did. t every day that mitch mcconnell separate himself from the president like this. >> no, certainly isn't. i just think it's quite serious. i think republicans i talk to are, frankly, nervous. they're nervous about the governorship in mitch mcconnell's home state. losing that, about losing bot houses of the virginia legislature. these ey,ections, judre basically ten days away and, you know, it's really -- and they are concerned that they lose arein in louisiana, thes red and purple states that they're losing. if donald trump is thereare they going to go into 2020 blissfully having sustained enormousosses in red states in november of 2019 and watching this happen? this is truly -- the turks said we'

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himes, joined by mr. collins and mr. khanna, 3238, that would create greater consequence for those that engage in election interferes. that's not what this is about. this is about smearing the president of the united states and validating the corrupt people who have been involved in delegitimatizing his historic election. we know that because just moments ago the chairman said that peter strzok was acting in the highest traditions of government service. mr. gaetz: mr. floris i believe you held a job he once held. is engaging in an extramarital affair with a co-working acting in the highest traditions -- ms. floris: i'm not going to comment. mr. gaetz: are you aware of any regulations against it? ms. floris: i'm not going to hold it. mr. gaetz: are you saying you don't know whether or not it's against f.b.i. policy to have an extramarital affair with a co-worker? ms. floris: sir, i hold a slightly different job than he held on the d.o.d. over the intelligence branch. he was over the operational branch. not that we are hel

they have dovetailed their messaging, but this phase one heard hime deal, we speaking effusively aboutgress, saying they are ahead of schedule. this follows comments from china on saturday, saying the text of the part one of this deal was arounde, particularly regulatory standards like agriculture, and that signal followed a phone call between the u.s. side and the chinese side on friday as well. so there seems to be momentum. u.s. one of the deal, the is saying china buying and committing to buy agricultural products to level, at levels before the trade war kicked off, as well as commitments from the chinese on intellectual property , and also the currency, in exchange for a pause on the tariffs on the u.s. side. china is also pushing for removal of tariffs. that is still unresolved. thether respects, it seems two sides are aligned. it remains to be seen whether phase two comes to bear. the questions over how much progress can be made after this initial phase one deal is signed at the november summit. see this, exposure continues. what do we know at this point? >> across the board, a

the one before spent the entire night talking about donald trump and really trying, i think, to get hime her a nickname and give her some buzz. and she -- she tends to -- i don't think her political instincts are so sharp. she tends to rely on gimmicks and this idea of backing out of this and then coming anyway because she realized it was a mistake speaks to that. she is not gaining traction with african-american voters in south carolina. all these months in. because i don't think that they believe that she can win. this is a block of voters that not only has, you know, biden has endeared himself to them because he was obama's vice president but because they believe that he is likely the most electable of all the democrats running. and they really want to get rid of donald trump. so that's been an interesting durability for him in this early voting state. he it is not looking good for joe biden in new hampshire and iowa. the whole race could turn there. but he is relying on this firewall of 65% of the voting of the primary electorate in south carolina being african-american. and so far,

. >> we just had jim himes on from the intel community. he said respect the process. don't rush to judgment. but again, some of the evidence is out in plain sight. and so if nancy pelosi believes that all of this, that is happening right now, is obstruction of justice, that's an article of impeachment right there. >> article 3 with richard nixon. abby, kaitlan, thanks for your reporting. >>> we are following breaking news out of germany. two people are dead after a shooting near a synagogue in central germany. of course, today is yom kippur, one of the high holy days. let's get to international diplomatic editor nic robertson. what do you know? >> a day when you could expect more people to be around synagogues and an average day. police say they've got one suspect in custody. an eyewitness that we've spoken to who was driving down the street from his business, past a synagogue, and he said he was just a few meters from the synagogue and saw a man dressed in camouflage clothing wearing what this witness describes as a steel helmet. the man was holding an automatic weap

himes is recognized for five minutes. >> i'd like to thank the commissioners for appearing before us today. mr. chairman i've had the privilege of serving with three chairs and a bunch of commissioners. i'd like to thank you for your work. this was as transparent and helpful a commission as i've had the privilege to work with. thank you for

connecticut democrat jim himes shares the latest on the impeachment inquiry. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern. join the discussion. next, a discussion on president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria and the impact on the region. speakers include the former state department national security council and pentagon officials from the george w. bush administration. this is about 90 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> good morning. >> >> good morning. can everybody hear me? ok. my name is ali rogin. i'm with the pbs news hour covering foreign affairs and as a journalist, i want to say i'm grateful to the hudson institute for convening this panel to discuss what is a rapidly developing, as we all know, situation on the syrian-turkish border. without further ado i'm going to introduce these folks who you all probably already know. to my left is the founder of mb long and associate an international legal and advisory firm from 2007-2009 she served as the first woman confirmed by the senate as assistant secretary of defense for i

himes is recognized for five minutes. >> i'd like to thank the commissioners for appearing before us today. mr. chairman i've had the privilege of serving with three chairs and a bunch of commissioners. i'd like to thank you for your work. this was as transparent and helpful a commission as i've had the privilege to work with. thank you for that. i want to focus on an issue i've been working on, which is the issue of insider trading. it erodes faith in our capital markets. it rewards insiders at the expense of often retail investors and is a real problem. what our witnesses know well, but the american people may not, is that there is no statutory prohibition on insider trading. the s.e.c. can and does prosecute insider training through their anti-fraud and anti-manipulation authority, but the case law that shapes this insider trading law is far from a solid foundation. decisions can radically alter the landscape of what is unlawful almost overnight. i'm a believer that if we're going to prosecute someone for a crime we should put the crime into a statute. i'm grateful both for the su

congressman jim himes is on the house intelligence committee. >> people around the president, professionals who are in the oval office who are in the situation room, are watching what is happening and are finally saying, my god, this cannot happen anymore. >> reporter: while he continues to publicly describe his conversation with zelensky as perfect, cbs news has learned in private president trump is playing the blame game telling republican lawmakers he only called by energy secretary rick perry asked him to. >> not once, not once, as god is my witness, not once was a biden name, not the former vice president, not his son, ever mentioned. >> reporter: in a statement, perry's spokesperson said that these absolutely encouraged and supported president trump to talk to zelensky about energy, security, and economic development. now the democrats have subpoenaed him for documents related to communications and travel to u.k. it's part of the bigger effort to get information from the white house and the committees that issued that subpoena set a deadline, anthony, for october 18th. >> all right. t

commissioner brian montgomery test about the committee and i still hope our chair will courag encourage hime and discuss fha's book of business. i'm concerned it's deteriorated at loan quality over the last couple of years and fica scores are lower that dictate income ratios are higher and that's concerning to me. and also they have mentioned the gse's competing with fha for the same first-time homebuyer market. so carson do agree the gse should not compete with the fha first-time homebuyer market the secondary market? >> i think the gse's have a different mission target than fha does. and can they both work with than that, of course they can but one is more specialized like a cardiac surgeon and a urologist. they both could probably operate on your heart but i think you'd probably rather have a cardiac surgeon. >> will put you down on the next witness for that. i yield back. >> the gentlewoman from virginia your mechanics for five minutes. >> thank you, madam chairwoman and thank you for everyone here on the right side. and thank you for the distinguished gentleman to coming to talk to us a

host: connecticut democrat jim himes, member of the house intelligence committee am a part of this processas on sunday shows yesterday. talked a little bit about timing. this is what he had to say. [video clip] >> this is no way for the republicans to defend the actions of the president here. what the chief of staff, mick mulvaney, said. no way to defend that behavior. as a result, they are attacking the process. let me spend a second on that process. the previous impeachment inquiries of nixon and clinton -- a special prosecutor star in the case of nexen by different special prosecutor. we are doing that now and an investigation does not happen in the light of day. there will be open hearings every transcript after classified information will be released publicly. this will ultimately be all out there for the american people to see and with the american people will see as there is not one word of testimony, written or spoken, which contradicts the notion that the president used the assets of the united states military aid, white house meeting, to advance his political interest of getting

jim himes sits on the house intelligence committee. feel this is going to be about substance. is he right. >> he is dead wrong about that. of course, what you have seen in the last couple weeks republicans talking exliewsklexclusively about the process. the reason they are talking about process they don't want to defend the substance of the president of the united states squeezing a foreign ruler to investigate his political. brian: that's what you think. >> that's not what i think. that's what's happening. the funny thing about this, of course, is the republicans have said you need a vote. you need to make the rules really clear. and you need to give the president rights in this process to have the president's lawyer present ands, guess what, what's being voted on today is a vote on the house of representatives. it describes the rules. and it gives all kinds of rights to the president's lawyers. and of course surprise, surprise, the republicans are saying well, that's just not good enough. even though this is exactly what they have be

himes, is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, madame chair. mr. zuckerberg, thank you for being here. i want to take it slightly off topic today because i sit on the intelligence committee. i'll never another get looking at the thousands of ads and twitter posts russians had purchased. those posts playeded on the painful and often explosive divisions in our society, race and gender and religion. i'll never forget in particular a post that was in spanish that urged people, presumably latino people, to vote on their cell phones. and i wonder how many actually did. i read your recent speech at georgetown a couple of times on freedom of speech. if you don't mind my saying, it came off as one-sided. it spoke about martin luther king and black lives having a voice but it didn't say anything about indian muslims killed because someone used a facebook post to organize a mob or rohingyas dying in myanmar because authorities used a post to organize a mob. and my point is, obviously, that what your georgetown speech missed, in my opinion, is like all of our

himes, is recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, madame chair. mr. zuckerberg, thank you for being here. i want to take it slightly off topic today because i sit on the intelligence committee. i'll never another get looking at the thousands of ads and twitter posts russians had purchased. those posts playeded on the painful and often explosive divisions in our society, race and gender and religion. i'll never forget in particular a post that was in spanish that urged people, presumably latino people, to vote on their cell phones. and i wonder how many actually did. i read your recent speech at georgetown a couple of times on freedom of speech. if you don't mind my saying, it came off as one-sided. it spoke about martin luther king and black lives having a voice but it didn't say anything about indian muslims killed because someone used a facebook post to organize a mob or rohingyas dying in myanmar because authorities used a post to organize a mob. and my point is, obviously, that what your georgetown speech missed, in my opinion, is like all of our

stall himes said. and i think very loudly secretary general of nato said that because of what i did they have paid over $100000000000.00 more money toward data defense but that's still not enough still not enough not fair because the united states pays far too much relative and obviously nato affects them more but like nato like trade with the european union which is a very tough group to trade with very very tough group almost as tough as japan not quite but they're very tough to have to trade with they take advantage and i said look you take a back we're not we're not going to do this we're not going to put them in guantanamo bay and put them all over our prisons so right now we're at a position where if turkey does anything out of what they should be doing we will hit them so hard in the economy but when you talk about soldiers we only had 50 soldiers in the area i think the area is it's a very small area and very small area but we only had 50 soldiers there i don't want them to be in a better compr