room for optimism he's facing a heck of a long time in prison potentially looking back now with hindsight what feasible tangible good did he bring now endeavor being brought to book for instance for some of things he's exposed to. the things that he has exposed to being the source of this information that he has admitted to. have led to profound social and political changes in the middle east in part if one listen to the voices from the tunisia he is he is partly responsible for contributing in a catalytic way to the arab spring with his. amazing. he has given as an in-depth insight into the horrors of the iraq and the gun wars inside an information that was concealed and hidden from the general public the fact that the allied forces were turning over detainees to the al maliki government where they were tortured and the knew perfectly well about that for a. example the number of those killed in the wars that were on the ticket loosely guarded by u.s. forces but officially denied that they were gathering this information so we have learned a lot from these revelations and he is one of the

>> that was in hindsight, okay. so i specialized in gastro and end endocrine. i was -- the president of the society at that time, and a neuro end crinology who is the president of the society of america. and he was just like sanjay said brilliant. he was absolutely brilliant, and he was identifying hormones that we didn't know too much about at that time. hormones in the hype hyperthalamus like growth factor, it. i had a colleague at the time, she later went to become the chief of brain chemistry. she's now at georgetown. she identified something called -- [inaudible] her boss for identifying neuro chemicals. and one day candace said to me, the thing we are looking at, there was a new technique. the doctor, who was a va physician had actually won the nobel prize for discovering this technique. so all we did as fellows and resident was keep measuring the chemical. one day she said to me these are the molecule of emotion. so i don't know if it was a best seller called the molecule of emotion. i wrote the forward to it. it was a huge book. nobody had used the term

but in hindsight, it is benefit of 20/20 hindsight they have been nothing but spectacular buying opportunities, not selling opportunities. charles: i became a broker i think in 85, '87 crash caught me flat fatted, i left -- flat footed, i lift the offic lift le the close, i went to the bar, had a few drinks and went back, i was unprepared, i learned over the years that to your point it does rebound but still have this tendency to bailout as it goes lower. >> the problem circumstance it is fear and greed. when freegrease turns to -- whed turns to fear it is worse feeling in the world, you can feel it in the pit of your stom could, you keep the cheese let me out of the trap, but you feel that pain that is the time not to be selling. charles: we have a minute, you told me a story about some guys who started with you investment club, years ago. can you retell it? >> 1962. it was investment club. called old colony investment club, they are still inic isetan. existence. i was an adviser then, i will still one, we started with 19, there are three, they put in 5 and 10 bucks a piece, they have not add

also liked the idea of having it always take place in the recent past, not so that i could leverage hindsight into heroism, not so that i could show the professionals like you how it's done, but just because... [laughter] [applause] but just because... >> john: in any other context i'd fight back, but i have to concede. >> just because i like the dynamic that happens when the audience knows more than the characters do. so something comes over i-news, something comes over the wire that says there's a protest starting outside the american consulate in benghazi, the audience immediately knows what's happening and we get to watch the process of the characters in "the newsroom," how they find out. >> you're going through the events of 18 months ago. you're navigating the 2012 election again. and, of course, spoiler alert, it's expensive and depressing. >> right, right. you're going to be disappointed anyone who is tuning into the show to find out who won the 2012 election. >> i wish that was zero people, but i think we both know there might be people going, oh, who is president now? >> so these ar

hindsight is 20/20. >> the runway will be handed back to the symptom fo in the next 24 hours. >> our performance team has continued their documentation, they expect to wrap it up as early as this evening to allow the salvage operations on the runway to begin. >> the airport is already cleaning up debris, but it could be another week before repairs are done and the runway reopened. >> the ntsb has been gathering from the beginning what it calls perishable evidence from the runway and the investigators have been documenting every last detail with pictures and video for instance, it's documented that all of the 300 passenger seats in the plane were still in the plane. of course there were the flight attendant seats that were ejected they have taken pictures of all the switches in the cockpit, down to the last detail as i said. then, once they were done with all of that, it would be a matter of handing the run way back over to sfo to do debris clean up, the evidence that the ntsb does not need and then, the airport has a long task, perhaps as much as a week of not only finishing the clea

in hindsight we should have put more people out on saturday night. we've learned from that and we're working on that to ensure that doesn't happen again. >> reporter: this weekend, all regular days off for police officers have been canceled. officers will be patrolling the streets friday and saturday night. local business owners say it's about time. >> i think it's -- there's a great deal of frustration around the vandalism that we've seen. >> reporter: merchants held a meeting at city hall angry that stores and banks have had to be boarded up. >> you can't even get to the atm machines to get money out over the weekend. this is really hurting our city. i'm heartbroken. i'm just heartbroken by it. >> reporter: police from a private security company offered their services. >> it does make a difference to deter those who are coming to damage a business. >> reporter: ramping up officers for a department that's already poorly staffed will cost tens of thousands of dollars. after the zimmerman verdict, protests stretched from coast to coast. out of the 17,

>> well, there's always a possibility that could happen and in hindsight, we would do things differently. >> later, protests brought more violence. a waiter was attacked with a hammer and demonstrators marched on the streets and on to interstate 880 blocking traffic. >> what can we do better going forward to keep protests contained? >> we deploy, basically our hostage negotiator people to attempt negotiations with leaders of these groups and a lot of times, that's successful. however, for people that choose not to get permits, they are sustained on the sidewalk. >> and monday, seemed like you got caught offguard again. >> we planned to be sunday. the same intelligence for sunday. we staffed it the same way sunday. >> it doesn't seem to be any easy answers on how to tackle future demonstrations and protests. there is one problem. the oakland police force is under manned. in oakland, linda yee, kpix5. >> over time for police officers will cost hundreds and thousands of dollars and that doesn't include damages for businesses. >> four people in the hospital tonight after a driver pulled a hi

hindsight is 20/20. >> the runway will be handed back to the symptom fo in the next 24 hours. >> our performance team has continued their documentation, they expect to wrap it up as early as this evening to allow the salvage operations on the runway to begin. >> the airport is already cleaning up debris, but it could be another week before repairs are done and the runway reopened. >> the ntsb has been gathering from the beginning what it calls perishable evidence from the runway and the investigators have been documenting every last detail with pictures and video for instance, it's documented that all of the 300 passenger seats in the plane were still in the plane. of course there were the flight attendant seats that were ejected they have taken pictures of all the switches in the cockpit, down to the last detail as i said. then, once they were done with all of that, it would be a matter of handing the run way back over to sfo to do debris clean up, the evidence that the ntsb does not need and then, the airport has a long task, perhaps as much as a week of not only finishing the clea

hindsight is 20/20. >> the runway will be handed back to the symptom fo in the next 24 hours. >> ourerformance team has continued their documentation, they expect to wrap it up as early as this evening to allow the salvage operations on the runway to begin. >> the airport is already cleaning up debris, but it could be another week before repairs are done and the runway reopened. >> the ntsb has been gathering from the beginning what it calls perishable evidence from the runway and the investigators have been documenting every last detail with pictures and video for instance, it's documented that all of the 300 passenger seats in the plane were still in the plane. of course there were the flight attendant seats that were ejected they have taken pictures of all the switches in the cockpit, down to the last detail as i said. then, once they were done with all of that, it would be a matter of handing the run way back over to sfo to do debris clean up, the evidence that the ntsb does not need and then, the airport has a long task, perhaps as much as a week of not only finishing the cleanu

in hindsight obviously we would do things differently. >> but later protests that week brought more violencewaiter was attacked with a hammer, and demonstrators marched on the street and onto interstate 880 blocking traffic. >> monday seemed like you got caught off guard again. >> monday we planned for it to be similar to sunday. we had basically the same intelligence for sunday. sunday was very successful. >> there doesn't seem to be any easy answers on thousand tackle future demonstrations and protests. there is one problem. the oakland police sfors undermanned. in oakland, linda yee, kpix 5. >> the chief says overtime pay will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and that does not include damages for the businesses. >>> just 45 minutes ago, the san mateo county sheriff's office put out an alert. they're warning women in san carlos about a serial peeping tom. the guy has been seen at least twice on the town's north side spying on women in the shower at night. >>> well, deja vu for former new york congressman anthony weiner. he just couldn't stop sexting, even after he lost his job and al

. >> in hindsight that might have been something we should have done. we second guess ourselves on trials we win. gorn, i wish i had done a better job at this or that. it's hard to say what could have changed this verdict. >> reporter: are you comfortable with george zimmerman in particular getting his gun back? >> i'm not comfortable with the way george zimmerman went out into the night armed, looking for someone he believed was dangerous. if you believe somebody is dangerous enough to call the police, don't get out of your car. >> reporter: a white house spokesman said that president obama would stay out of that department of justice investigation, scott. the spokesman said it would be inappropriate >> pelley: mark, thank you. correspondent don dahler sat down with zimmerman's attorneys today, mark o'mara and don west. dahler asked omar a about the possibility of further legal action against zimmerman. >> i'm not concerned at all about the department of justice. they've already done their investigation. the f.b.i. has looked at this case over a year.

but i understand that 2020 is hindsight. order some of the current things you would recommend.i know many can't even talk to their police chiefs. >> in this case it probably would have been to cambridge police department. it's a much smaller department. but you're not always when i'm a situation where the local police department is being represented. it is becoming more and more the case. my understanding about how it works includes how they could've asked for permission to share that with their cheap. that is so they know where the information has gone. i think that is probably a good protocol. it means that it doesn't get shared. i do think a more systemic basis, we need to make sure that when an investigation is included, that that is effectively shared with the departments of the department can decide whether he really should be concluded to whether or not they can do more. i have to add. you understand as an attorney, mr. chairman, there are real civil liberty issues here. in many instances, sharing information about this and the local police keep quite surveillance on us.

and certainly now in hindsight that we have this verdict, certainly people will be talking about thisu to take a listen. we're putting these two sound bites together to show the contrast here. martin family attorney daryl parks on msnbc earlier today as well as robertson. >> whenever you make race in a case like this, it tends to divide people for whatever reason and doesn't give the case a chance to stand on its merits. i think they charged him correctly. george zimmerman believed trayvon was part of the element burglarizing this complex and that's why he chose to follow him. and so that type -- the criminal profiling was the issue in this case. >> i'm not angry at the media. i think the media has to do a better job when you have people injecting race into things. a red flag has to go up right away, especially after a case like this, where two very crafty attorneys got away with fabricating a completely scripted narrative and selling it to the american people through the media. >> so, ben, robert zimmerman talking about the attorneys representing the martin family. basically saying a

and in hindsight i would say we would do things differently. >> reporter: later protest brought more violence of a waiter attacked with a hammer and demonstrators marched on the streets and on 880 blocking traffic. monday seemed like were you caught off guard again. >> monday we planned on it to be similar for sunday. we staffed the same way as sunday. sunday was successful. >> reporter: there doesn't seem to be any easy answer on how to tackle future demonstrations and protests. there is one problem: the oakland police force is undermanned. in oakland, linda yee, kpix 5. >> the chief says overtime pay will cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and it doesn't include damages to businesses >>> witnesses say a woman driving a camry in alamo square ran a hayes street stop sign and crashed into cars on steiner. police don't think she had been drinking. >>> women in san carlos are being warned about a serial peeping tom in the area. the san mateo county sheriff's office put out the alerts last night. he has been seen twice on the north side of town spying on women in the shower at night.

in hindsight, we remember world war ii as a time of extraordinary national groupty when our country came together to fight the last good war against the unquestionable evil of naziism and the imperial of japan. but ms. olson makes it clear thp decision to enter the war was ferociously controversial.t th the president roosevelt we remember from history, a bold, decisive leader, is not seen in this book.ly instead, roosevelt is portrayed as an extremely cautious politician afraid to get aheadar of public opinion. olson writes: the people wanted fdr to lead them while he seemed to expect them to lead him. the result was stasis. roosevelt and winston churchill, as one might expect, are por be. trayed vividly in the book, but the other dominant figure is tho famous aviator and really oddth dude -e - [laughter] charles lindbergh. revered as an american hero forf his solo flight across the atlantic in 1927, later reviled as a nazi sympathizer for his prominent role in the america first movement which opposed u.s. entry into the war. lindbergh, we learn through thio book, maintained a deeplythe

they know that they have to do it because the opposite point of view would be total disaster given hindsight we can always say sorry about that i mean should remind you how could you work on the atomic bomb but if the year is nine hundred forty four ok and there is chaos erupting in the world with millions of people just hundred thousands millions of people dying ok then you begin to realize it's more complex than a simple well hey i told you so it's much more complicated than that i would have not dropped the atomic bomb because my relatives were there be i think was unnecessary japan was about to surrender but given what was known at that time i understand the opposite point of view i don't agree with it by i understand why the bomb was dropped what i'm saying is whether i think democracies have to be much more disciplined in the way they operate maybe a scientific method could help as well in looking back at it if you would have been held. sizing intonations that way hundred forty five if you were to have a vote of the american people about whether or not the job be atomic bomb that cost

to use rules against the do all of your lead up to the iraq war was there as you look back i mean hindsight is easy and mistakes were made there sure of my goodness did you learn for them i think so i think so one of the things we did do however i did is to is to write out a list of all the things i could see that could go wrong in the iraq war i mean we listened to colin powell's presentation at the united nations about the intelligence we have read and were briefed on george tenet's intelligence presentations and gave him this intelligence who gave powell where did he how i had more experience with intelligence than anyone in the administration he'd been national security adviser for reagan had been a four star general spent his whole life one of the intelligence agencies in the department of state is saying was very logical to believe them oh my goodness she was absolutely i mean it if you go back people now say well they blame bush or cheney or somebody i mean the intelligence came from george tenet cia and powell analyzed it for days before he made that presentation he was in line he b

going to use rules against the do all of the lead up to the iraq war was sure as you live by i mean hindsight is easy and mistakes were made they're sure my goodness did you learn for them i think so i think so one of the things we didn't do however i did is to is to write out a list of all the things i could see that could go wrong in the iraq war i mean we listened to colin powell's presentation at the united nations about the intelligence we have read and were briefed on george tenet's intelligence presentations and who gave him this intelligence who gave powell where did he how i had more experience with intelligence than anyone in the administration he'd been national security adviser for reagan had been a four star general spent his whole life and one of the intelligence agencies in the department of state is saying it was very logical to believe that oh my but there's just absolutely i mean it if you go back people now say well they blame bush or cheney or somebody i mean the intelligence came from george tenet cia and powell analyzed it for days before he made that presentation he was

now looking back, yeah, she carried really well, didn't seem to take away anything from her, so hindsight is 20/20. of course it was a boy. >> we have a statement released from william. do you have that, saying he was very happy? >> reporter: yes. yeah. it is a one line statement. he says we could not be happier. and you know, this is a lovely couple. you think back to princess diana and prince charles and when william was born, there was already trouble in dodge at that point. there's no indication that's the situation here. they seem to be a happy, mature couple. they met in college. diana was only 20 when william was born, it was more frightening for her. not surrounded by her family. we know the duchess of cambridge has been with her mom and her family at their house. very, very different situation here. this is a couple that's been truly enthusiastic about having kids and i think a lot of people are sharing in their joy. they like them. they're a pretty likeable couple. >> bob? >> martha, first of all on behalf of "the five" i apologize for gutfeld's question. >> which one. >> which

hindsight, he needed it open, we knew it would be good content because we had excellent people involved, and it was a matter of getting it open to the public so that the fears would be laid to rest. that was kind of it. >> connor, the question is for you. how do you feel about the museum today in 2013? >> i think that it has become a real museum, and a museum professional of great talent, and it's doing all of the things that are truly important nationally respected museum. the education programs, the outreach, the distance learning, the oral history program, the publications, your book, and the, you know, gary mac is doing fabulous job as a curator in advising others. i went to see the fort worth art show at the art museum with, you know, allen and cynthia yesterday, and the film in there was done, and the accurate quality, and it was the best collection of materials relating to a global tragedy that exists on the face of the earth, and now it's doing the right things with the material, and i think that -- i think that dallas should be proud of the professionals who came through in the

>> in hindsight, i would say when he was slamming my head into the concrete and thought i would lose consciousness. i didn't know what would happen at that point. >> how close was the concrete to the grass? the big issue was also the grass stains you had on your clothes. you made a statement to the police that you wanted to get to the grass. was that to protect your head from banging into the cement again? >> yes, sir. >> how close was that in proximity? >> it bucks up to the concrete. >> were you able to get to the grass? >> yes, sir. >> how did you do that? >> i would i guess you would say shimmy. he was straddled on me with his full weight. i would try and sit up and push myself down. whenever i would sit up, he would take the opportunity to slam my head back down and punch me in the haead and continue to hit my nose. >> was he talking to you a lot during this fight? during this -- when he was beating you? because you're saying he's beating you and pounding your head into the cement. was he talking to you during that time? >> yes. >> and he was saying? >> cursing, telling me to sh

>> in hindsight i would say when he was slamming my head into the concrete and i thought i would loseness i didn't know what would happen at that point. >> how close was the concrete to the class. the big issue is the grass stains you had on your clothes. you made a statement to police that you wanted to get to the grass. was that to protect yourself from banging into the cement again. >> yes, sir. >> how close was that? >> it butts up to the concrete. >> were you able to get to the grass? >> yes, sir. >> i guess you would say shimmy. he was straddled on me with his full weight and i would try and sit up and push myself down. whenever i lifted up that's when he would take the opportunity to slam my head back down and punch me in the head and continue to hit my nose. >> was he talking to you a lot during this fight? during this when he was beating you. you are saying he was beating you and pounding your head into the cement. was he talking to you during that time? >> yes. >> he was saying? >> cursing. telling me to shut up and finally telling me he was going to kill me. >> he said thos

>> in hindsight at that point when he was banging my head into the concrete i thought i was going toe consciousness. >> how close was the concrete to the grass. the big issue is the grass stains you had on your clothes and you had made a statement to the police you wanted to get to the crass. was that to protected your head from being hit on the cement again? >> yes, sir. >> how close was that? >> p butts up to the concrete. >> you were able to get to the grass? >> how did you do that? >> i guess you could say shimmy he was straddled on me with his full weight. i would try to sit up and push myself down. whenever i lifted up that's when he would take the opportunity to slam my head back down and punch me in the head and continue to hit my nose. >> was he talking to you a lot during this fight during this when he was beating you. you said he was beating you and pounding your head into the cement. what was he saying? >> cursing, telling me to shut up and finally telling me he was going to kill me. >> he said those words? he said it -- when did he first -- >> i shimmied with him on top

we got home and i realized in hindsight jackson, my son, was barely even restraint. i had his arm out, his head was over here. we actually walked in our house in santa monica with our first kid and you've probably done the same thing, it's such an overwhelming moment. you're so surprised the hospital lets you leave with this precious cargo. we put jackson on the table, now what, what do you do now? >> how was the drive from the hospital home? i wondered with him behind the wheel, you're responsible for more than just you and your wife. >> you do have precious cargo and that drive is something you'll always remember unless you have royal secret service driving you. >> he drove himself. >> blind spots, you drive defensively. you assume someone is going to hit you and avoid it at all costs, of course. >> congrats to our good, good friend jimmy fallon, he and his baby had a baby, too. they have not yet named their baby either. >> what are they waiting for? >> waiting until they know what to name the baby. >> they are great. congratulations, jimmy and nancy, that's awesom

>> in hindsight at that point when he was banging my head into the concrete i thought i was going to lose consciousness. >> how close was the concrete to the grass. the big issue is the grass stains you had on your clothes and you had made a statement to the police you wanted to get to the crass. was that to protected your head from being hit on the cement again? >> yes, sir. >> how close was that? >> p butts up to the concrete. >> you were able to get to the grass? >> how did you do that? >> i guess you could say shimmy he was straddled on me with his full weight. i would try to sit up and push myself down. whenever i lifted up that's when he would take the opportunity to slam my head back down and punch me in the head and continue to hit my nose. >> was he talking to you a lot during this fight during this when he was beating you. you said he was beating you and pounding your head into the cement. what was he saying? >> cursing, telling me to shut up and finally telling me he was going to kill me. >> he said those words? he said it -- when did he first -- >> i shimmied with him on

in hindsight do you think it is wise -- >> time, time, time.re looking tired. >> no, i'm good. >> do you want to finish? >> i am good. i can do all 9. >> go get them. >> do you think they will end the dead ball era and it should be more alive? >> if we have learned anything from this year's fanfest is people like me get stuck in the center while rick leventhal get to go to the actual game in city field. don't put me in, coach, i am not ready to play today. >> so that guy, john franco, he didn't like you too much. >> no, i was the first walkoff. and then we had to speak with some publicists afterwards. and i tried to explain to them the only person that looks dumb in these things is me. now we have the proof. >> you threw it 37 miles an hour. >> it was 36. >> i was pleased with that. we added a couple of numbers to that miles per hour. you are welcome fanfest. call me, john. >> we have to take a break. don't think of leaving me now. we will talk about kennedy's new book, next. and it is going to be just as good as "the joy of hate" amazon.com, a

in hindsight, we obviously should have put more people out on saturday night. but we've learned from that. we're working on that to make sure that doesn't happen again. >> the department has cancelled regular days off for this weekend, and expects to have 150 extra officers patrolling friday and saturday nights. trayvon martin's father speaks out. ahead in 35 minutes, the emotional speech he gave on capitol hill and the fight he's vowing to take on. >>> san carlos police are stepping up patrols after reports of a peeping tom. in both cases, the women were showering in the bathroom. one incident happened on tuesday and the second this past monday. police say at this point, they have limited suspect information. >> i believe one of the windows had kind of a texture to it, so it was difficult to see out, which is good, because hopefully it was difficult for the suspect to see in. >> in the other case, the woman only saw set of eyes. police are asking people who live in the area to lock their doors, windows, pull down their blinds and always be mindful of their sur

hindsight is 20/20. >> the pilot told the ntsb he saw a flash of light blinding him before the crash.do not know what that could have been. three or four of the flight attendants were ejected on the runway and still strapped in the seats. there was a delay in the evacuation and questions still remain about the landing mode was the equipment working or was its in the wrong mode? officials say they think that this runway will be closed for a few more days, if not a week. >> thank you, survivors and the families of the two girls who were killed went to the site to on the victims. survivors and family members of those on board asiana flight 214 were escorted by police and officials on buses from the crowd plaza hotel in burlingame. there were eight relatives of wang linjia and ye mengyuan the two, 16-year-old girls killed in the crash and stayed at the scene for 30 minutes. after they left, three large black buses with survivors and their families arrived at the site and looked at the wreckage from a distance on the tarmac. a prayer vigil is held at the southern california church school f

i think they also realized that deede in hindsight had not handled things as best she could have in termsrminating that relationship. >> erwin howard will not be eligible for parole until the year 2020. deede's friends and family, sorrow tinged with regret, now honor deede by urging other women not to ignore the warning signs of domestic violence. >> we want deede's life to count for something. i hope people will reach out for help, get support. >> i know you don't blame deede for this but i know that you also wish that she had been more forthright with the two of you because you would have acted even though she didn't want to. >> yes, we would have. >> there's no question i would have done things differently if i could go back and relive it. >> but for deede's friends, regrets give way to wonderful memories. today there's a plaque at the local dog park both remembering and honoring a woman whose big heart wouldn't ever let her turn away a stray. >> that's all for now. i'm lester holt. thanks for joining us. >>> this sunday, the president seeks to ignite a new conversation about race in a

. >> michael: yeah, and i think now in hindsight certainly some people it's easy to see it as a mistake. let's go back to the president. you wrote in your book, president obama who has openly admitted to using drugs had grown up when the war on drugs was waged as it is now we may never have heard of him. a single arrest could have precluded student loans and completely ruined his life, posing a far greater threat than the drugs themselves did. president obama seems well aware of this fact, too. why isn't he the number one spokesperson for policy change. >> now you're asking me to get into the head of the president. i can't do that. i don't know. one of the things--one of the reasons why i wrote "high price" was so that the population could see the hypocrisy that goes on related to drugs and drug education, and hopefully the population places pressure on their applications not only on obama but other applications politicians well. first they need to be educated. >> michael: let's stay in your head a little bit instead of the president's. what to you does good drug policy look like. we ca

in hindsight. >> of course. >> that might have resolved things? >> absolutely. >> that's something the prosecution would like to continue to hammer on, it could have all been avoided. >> sure. he threw the prosecution a bone there, but for the most part there, his testimony was remarkable. but i do agree that that's part of the prosecution's theme. had he not gotten out of the car, had he done what he had been instructed to do by the neighborhood watch folks by the dispatcher once he got out and dispatcher said we don't need you to follow him. had all of that not occurred, we wouldn't be talking about this case. i'm quite sure that that's something that the prosecutor is going to follow up on. >> mark, were there opportunities that you saw that you think the prosecution missed with this investigator? >> yeah, they never should have put him on the stand. simple as that. >> really? >> there is absolutely no reason in the world if this prosecution really wanted to win this case that they would put this guy on the stand. it's mind boggling. i can't em

you look back with the benefit of hindsight.cut way too many costs. >> couldn't you argue that bp had to cut costs in order to stay profitable, in order to stay in business? >> absolutely, but then the question becomes, at what point do you basically go beyond normal cost-cutting and you're in to reckless behavior? >> but bp's senior executive in charge of refineries, john manzoni, denies that. he told lawyers in this deposition that budget cuts never compromised the safety of bp's employees. >> i don't believe it's the case ever that we short-changed budgets on safety issues. >> if in this trial someone says that bp puts profits over the safety of its people, what would be your response to that? >> my response would be that is not how we run the company. [watch ticking] >> the government finds that cost cutting did jeopardize the texas city refinery. >> is there a direct relationship between the budget cut and the disaster at texas city? >> we believe there is. >> when 60 minutes on cnbc returns. [watch ticking] my mantra? trus

either survived our view -- [laughter] i was very gratified to see that it was well received your hindsight was, we knew it was going to be content, as would actually people involved. and that was a matter of getting it open to the public so that the fears would be laid to rest. that was kind of it. >> conover, this question is for you. how do you feel about the museum today in 2013? >> i think that it is become a real museum. it's doing all of the things that are truly important national respected museums. the education program, the outreach, the distance learning, the oral history program, the publications, your book. and gary is doing a that was job as curator and advising others, i went to see the fort worth art show at the art museum, you know, alan and santa yesterday. and the film and there was done by the 64. the accurate equality. it's the magnet that i always dreamed it would become. it has the best collection of materials relating to a global tragedy that exist on the face of the earth. and now is doing right things with that material. and so i think that, i think that dallas sho

in hindsight, i think you cannot walk into a place where one million people have been killed, were therators are still in power and are boasting about it and keeping everybody afraid, then it turns out are doing that as much to protect their own conscience so they can live with themselves, as to keep everybody thatdown -- you can't do and and address that situation honestly and not feel overwhelmed. >> joshua oppenheimer talking about his new film, "the act of killing." we will continue our interview in a moment. ♪ [music break] ♪ [music break] >> this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we continue with joshua oppenheimer, director of "the act of killing." his friends are able to reenact what they have done in anyways they have wished. as i was filming, they would take me to places where they killed and offered his show me or want to show me how they killed. gradually i started asking, look, you have participated in one of the biggest killings in human history. your whole society is based on it. your lives are shaped by it. you want to show