the two oceans being islam and hinduism. unfortunately, i think, you know, this that day and age it was perhaps not entirely a good thing for a prince to be that scholarly, and he was so emotional that his brother took advantage and, basically, defeated him and killed him. so he was eldest son, should have been the rightful emperor, wasn't. but the efforts that he undertook on the behalf of pluralism, they're still remembered in south asia. his sister and daughter were also sufi. he was the only one in the kingdom who could answer him back and not pay for it with her life. so those are two remarkable examples from asian history which show us the influence of sufiism in south asia, but on rulers generally. several sufi sayings are still incredibly revered in south asia. one of them is so revered by hindu muslims, my mother has been a number of times toss a shrine. i'll come to it a bit later. slightly different background, so i'll deal with him later. if you desire a union with god, make peace with all. sayal ha to muslim --

is exempt from taxes on expenditures, exactly as are other religions like catholicism, judaism, hinduism. that tax-exempt status is a further guarantee that mar mannism is a religion and tax- free in its expenditures. not what a cult gets, by way of being tax-free. item, no polygamy! one man and one woman, not one man and many women, as used to define marriage in mormonism. the mormon church outlawed, in fapolygamy in 1904. question, will mitt romney's mormonism diminish his chance to become u.s. president? >> i think some christians may have a problem with it. but frankly, between the book of mormon being a huge success on broadway, a mormon church ad campaign about i'm am i mormon with posters on the side of buses, the big love series on hb, it's cool these days to be a mormon, and i think it's taken some of these entertainment shows have taken some of the mystery out of mormonism, so i think broadly speaking in the general election, it would be no problem for mitt romney. >> is the plan broadway -- more mormonism in defense of mormonism? >> it's a comedy! musical comedy. >> is it re d

islam, hinduism. buddhism and mormonism are all false religions.ements. >> richard land of the powerful southern baptist convention says it is about policies that candidates support, not religious preferences. >> we do have a government prohibition on and i don't think americans should have a religious test for office. i think we should consider how that person's faith is going to apply to their government. >> it's an important question because iowa and south carolina, two states that get to weigh in early on who should be the republican nominee for president have a lot of evangelical and social conservative voters. the last time romney ran for president, he gave a big speech trying to put the religion issue to rest. >> i do not define my candidacy by my religion. a person should not be elected because of his faith. nor should he be rejected because of his faith. >> evangelicals are historically thought to have a power presence in iowa and south carolina. but even in the early primary state of new hampshire four years ago. religious preference had

islam, hinduism, buddhism, and mo mormonism are all false religions and i stand by those statements.at do you want to say to this pastor? >> well, it's unfortunate that one person is driving the narrative during a time when we have 15 million unemployed. we have two wars abroad and an uncertain position in the world. we have failing schools and the most important election of my lifetime in the 2012 election cycle. the fact that some moron can stand up and mach a comment like that, you know, first of all it's outrageous. second of all, we're spending so much time discussing it makes it even worse. the questions that come after the foreign policy speech are focused on religion as opposed to our place in the world. this does not help the american people come to terms with the choices that they have in the 2012 election cycle. let's stick to the big issues that matter and leave religion off the table. >> which is a fair point. i want to get to your foreign policy, domestic policy in a moment. what do you sty some of your fellow republicans presidential candidates who don't acknowledge th

islam, hinduism, buddhism and mormonism are all false religions. and i stand by those statements. >> it is fascinating and frankly sometime more than a little frustrating to watch others involved in politics deal with the mormon question. tony perkins, the president of the family counsel. i asked him whether he considered mormonism to be a cult. here's his answer. >> well, let me say this. i do not see mormonism as the same as christianity. now whether it is defined as a cult, i don't know. i would say it is not christianity the way evangelicals view christianity. >> romney's republican rivals also have, shall we say, less than direct answers. >> that i believe they believe that they're christians. >> he says he's a christian. >> this is so inconsequential as far as this campaign is concerned. >> well, here's tonight's truth. the church of jesus christ christ of latter day saints calls itself a christian faith but there are some significant differences in its teachings that draw criticism from some other denominations. the mormon faith believes jes

you had pastor jeffress on for longer and if you'd asked him about islam, buddhism, catholicism, hinduism and judaism, he would have said those are all bad religions too. this is about a fundamental bloc of american voters who would look at mitt romney and say he's not one of us, it doesn't matter what his position is on abortion, doesn't matter what the mormon church is going to get a tax break or not from him -- >> well, we'll see. we'll have a third party candidate if that's true. thank you, ed rollins. and ed rollins could well be leading that third party effort. >> i wouldn't be surprised. >> i've seen you before, you're always ready to lead the column into battle. >> i'm done. >> it's good for business. >> i love it when you're out there. >>> up next, mitt romney versus mitt romney. it's not his religion but his flip-flops that are making headlines in the sideshow tonight. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. my washer had a foul odor that made the whole room stink. even my laundry started to get a funny smell. [ female announcer ] got a bad odor in your high-efficiency washer?

islam, hinduism, judism and mormonism are all false religions, and i stand by that. >> he heads the ethics commission, richard rand. would you hear jeffries saying again and again saying these are false, they're cults, do you think he's turning this race into a religious debate versus a political one? >> no. look, he's a pastor, and i was a member of that church. it's a great church. when you ask a pastor a theological question, you're going to get a theological answer. he was asked the question after he finished introducing governor perry, and he said mormonism is a cult. >> can you see where that's offensive? >> i can, but you know, sometimes the truth is offensive. i think the problem with mormonism is that when we use the word cult, that's a theological definition of a movement that claims to be within the confines of the christian faith and clearly is not within the confines of the christian faith, it is a new religion. it is another religion. and the problem is when we hear the word cult, we think branch da individu davidians, we think the jones cult. these are moral, middle class pe

. >> islam, hinduism, buddhism and mormonism are all false religions. >> reporter: pastor robert jeffressas repeatedly called mormonism a cult. and it's not just mormons he insulted. in a sermon last year, he called catholicism the genius of satan. >> much of what you see in the catholic church today doesn't come from god's word, it comes from this cult-like pagan religion. >> reporter: anita perry teared up yesterday when talking about how tough this campaign has been saying her husband has been, quote, beaten up, brutalized and chewed up because of his christian faith and his conservative views. george? >> thanks, jon. and we are joined now by the candidate himself. governor rick perry is in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, this morning, going to give a big jobs speech. thank you for joining us. i want to talk about that in a moment but first those remarkable comments from your wife yesterday. you are a lucky man to have such a passionate defender, but is that what you believe, that these debates have been unfair and you've been brutalized because of your christian faith? >> well, i do have on

. >> islam, hinduism, and mormonism are all false religions. >> reporter: pastor robert jeffrey has repeatedly called mormonism a cult. and it's not just mormons he insulted. in a sermon last year, he called catholicism the genius of satan. >> it comes from this cult-like, pagan religion. >> reporter: anita perry teared up yesterday when talking about how tough this campaign has been. saying her husband has been, quote, beaten up, brutalized and chewed up because of his christian faith and his conservative views. george? >> yeah. she was really passionate yesterday, jon. let me ask you. governor perry is going to give his major jobs and energy speech today in pittsburgh. he says it can create 1.2 million new jobs by taking aregulations in the energy sector. but his opponents are saying that's not going to work. it's not going to create the jobs. and they're taking a closer look at his record in texas. >> reporter: they sure are, george. you remember, when perry got into this race, he got into it as the jobs governor. the person who presided over texas at a time when texas led the nation in job

this is true of hinduism and islam and christianity and pretty much all religions. always a wide range of practices from the conservative to what might call sufi that are overlapping that take from these things. this is true in bangladesh. when the country was provisioned it was clear in the mind if anybody was in the and pakistan would look like. there were a large number of proposals being floated around because they were significant muslim populations in the south in the center of india and was a princely state. they were all these different possibilities floated around including big cities like karachi and baum they would become independent city-state's which in a way they might be becoming in the twenty-first century. but it happened very quickly. it happened quite dramatically and the colonial british were responsible. millions were displaced. four million died. it was a violent process. when the partition happened both -- they never imagined people wouldn't talk to which other across the border. it took until the 50s when border controls were put in place and