blackburn that it was hipaa compliant. you know that's not hipaa compliant. you admit that you knew it was in there. it may be their decision to hide it, but you're the company. not you personally, but your company is the company that put this together. we're telling every american, including all my friends on the democrat side and their huge privacy advocates. diane degette is co-chair of the privacy caucus with me. you're telling every american that you sign up with this or even attempt to, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. that is a direct contradiction to hipaa and you know it. yes or no? >> once again, c.m.s. has us complied to a set of rules and regulations that they established under our contract. and that is a c.m.s. call. that is not a contractor call. >> to break the law? you're now saying that c.m.s. made a decision to break the law, do you agree with in a decision? >> sir, i cannot make a -- i cannot speculate on c.m.s. >> all right. let me ask mr. slavitt. >> this is the first time i'm seeing and becoming familiar with that source co

blackburn that it was hipaa compliant. you know that's not hipaa compliant. you admit that you knew it was in there. it may be their decision to hide it, but you're the company. not you personally, but your company is the company that put this together. we're telling every american, including all my friends on the democrat side, and they are huge privacy advocates. diane degette is co-chair of the privacy caucus with me. you're telling every american that you sign up with this or even attempt to, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. that is a direct contradiction to hipaa and you know it. yes or no? >> once again, c.m.s. has us complied to a set of rules and regulations that they established under our contract. and that is a c.m.s. call. that is not a contractor call. >> to break the law? you're now saying that c.m.s. made a decision to break the law, do you agree with in a decision? >> sir, i cannot make a -- i cannot speculate on c.m.s. >> all right. let me ask mr. slavitt. >> this is the first time i'm seeing and becoming familiar with that sourc

so i think that is a violation of hipaa.tion they ask you is whether you smoke. and i understand your concern about hacking. >> they ask those other questions too. >> the associate security number, the government has that, the irs, they have lots of information on all of us. >> technically, they're trying to get 40 million people to sign up for this and create this huge database. and if they can share it and combine it with all of this other information, to me that's scary. and they're hiding the fact that you're waiving any right to personally protect that. >> okay. i've got to wrap -- >> i think that's wrong. >> we look forward to the testimony on wednesday and your questions as well. thank you for joining me. >> not a problem. >> still to come in the "newsroom," the rivalry express has rolled into ohio for a big 10 throwdown. carlos diaz is there. >> reporter: we're here with the ohio state fans. penn state taking on ohio state. we've got the details coming up on cnn. ♪ [ crashing ] [ male announcer ] when your favorite f

blackburn that it was hipaa compliant. you know that's not hipaa compliant. you admit that you knew it was in there. it may be their decision to hide it, but you're the company. not you personally, but your company is the company that put this together. we're telling every american, including all my friends on the democrat side and their huge privacy advocates. diane degette is co-chair of the privacy caucus with me. you're telling every american that you sign up with this or even attempt to, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. that is a direct contradiction to hipaa and you know it. yes or no? >> once again, c.m.s. has us complied to a set of rules and regulations that they established under our contract. and that is a c.m.s. call. that is not a contractor call. >> to break the law? you're now saying that c.m.s. made a decision to break the law, do you agree with in a decision? >> sir, i cannot make a -- i cannot speculate on c.m.s. >> all right. let me ask mr. slavitt. >> this is the first time i'm seeing and becoming familiar with that source co

the preexisting conditions don't matter, hipaa doesn't apply. there is no health information in the process. you are asked your address, date of birth, not health information, so why are we going down this path? you are trying to scare people so they don't apply and so therefore, the legislation gets delayed or the affordable care act gets defunded or it's repealed. that's all it is, hoping people won't apply. the fact is there are over 20 million people going on this site and they are going to apply and they are ultimately going to be able to enroll. in fact, many of them already have. i think my republican colleagues forget that a lot of people are enrolling through state exchanges rather than the federal exchange. if it wasn't for the fact that many republican governors, including my own from new jersey had agreed to set up state exchanges, we wouldn't be putting so much burden on the federal system. i just want to give you some examples. in new york and washington, 30,000 people have eninvolved. in oregon, over 50,000 people ever enrolled. c

do you think that's hipaa compliant? how can that be? you know it's not hipaa compliant. admit it. you're under oath. >> sir, that is cms' decision to make. >> that testy exchange may have just been the appetizer for what came a few minutes later, when barton and congressman frank pallone, the democrat from new jersey, got into it big time. >> hipaa only applies when there's health information being provided. that's not in play here today. once again, here we have my republican colleagues trying to scare everybody -- >> will the gentleman yield? >> no, i will not yield to this monkey court or whatever this is. >> this is not a monkey court. >> i'm not yielding. >> this is not a monkey court. how do those congressmen find out about the sitcom i was pitching to nbc? remember "night court" with harry anderson? it would be just like that only with monkeys. back to the drawing board. anyway, when they were pressed for an answer on when healthcare.gov will ultimately be fixed, the contractors were vague at best. one vocal critic of the website debacle at today's hearing was republican co

salafa, you all both said you were hipaa compliant. how in the world can this be hipaa compliant? >> turns out the code barton focused on is irrelevant. tech journalist clay johnson noting, "the whole thing doesn't matter. if it's not displayed to the user, the user can't agree to it. it's not like apple can completely hide terms of service on itunes and still claim people accept the terms." but joe barton is less concerned with the facts than he is about destroying obama care. >> once again here we have my republican colleagues trying to scare everybody -- >> will the gentleman yield? >> no, i will not yield to this monkey court or whatever this is -- >> this is not a monkey court. >> do whatever you want. >> instead of trying to actually get to the bottom of what was wrong with the website, the gop spent their time decrying a broken government they worked day and night to break. >> the botched rollout is all the more reason that the individual mandate penalty should be delayed. >> but this is not the first time congress has overseen the botched rollout of a big new health care p

hipaa only applies when there's health information being provided. that's not in play here today.alth information is required in the application process. and why is that? because pre-existing conditions don't matter. so once again, here we have my republican colleagues trying to scare everybody -- >> will the gentleman yield? >> no, i will not yield to this monkey court or whatever this thing is -- >> this is not a monkey court. >> do whatever you want. i'm not yielding. >> this is not a monkey -- >> this is too -- i love congress. drama today from republican congress joe barton from texas and fed up palone from new jersey. mr. barton making a scary-sounding allegation about the whole signup for health care being illegal. mr. palone clarifying that actually, that's made up. the obama care rollout has not been an easy or smooth one. rollouts tend to go like that. before world war ii, there were problems for the brand-new social security board. they had to figure out a way to enroll 26 million workers into the program in less than a year, without computers. one of the big problems i

there are basic protects that are part of hipaa and the security rule and meaningful use that should be taken seriously. and also the vendors that they work with, the business associates often times they use passing off of data to analyze it and clean it for you. those instances now, with the hipaa modifications, that took effect, those also have that same responsibility. but it is also patients. and if you use a service, to store your personal health information, and increasingly it will be more and more services like this, right? from microsoft health vault to box .com. to no more clipboard. a whole host of services like this now. and make sure you understand their privacy policies. and there should be a simple one-page comment that says, that explains what they do with your data. if you don't see that simple explanation of what they do with your data, who they share it with, and so forth, don't use that service. and make sure that you take the steps you need to make sure the information that if you store it, it is encrypted or it is not on your device. >> and so if people have the

hipaa protects that right in terms of medical records. ask medical information, asks if you're a woman, if you're pregnant. asks if you have any mental, physical, emotional condition that would preclude any activity. asks if you're a smoker and it has your social security number and it also asks if you have health insurance and if you do, what is your policy number is and what the company is. so there is all kind of health information that's asked and, hidden in the code, not public in the disclaimer but hidden in the code there is a sentence that says, you waive any reasonable right to privacy of your personal information. transiting of it or storage of it. then it goes on to say the government has the right to use your information for what is termed any lawful purpose. so the primary issue i was trying to raise is, your privacy rights are being run over on this website, number one. number two, the obama administration is hiding that they're running over your privacy rights. and number three, the law specifically designed to protect your

under hipaa laws, there had to be an offer of something else. but there's a difference here. is smp that you brought up. some are getting discontinuation letters saying you're not going to get it. some people will be able to go on the exchange and get a better deal, because they'll have a subsidy or something else because of their income. that part is new. the two groups are not exactly the same. some people here will not be able to be in -- so that's a concern, too. we're going to find a big chunk of people, and i don't seize an answer yet. >> here's the then. we need a baseline understanding that obama care is here to say. there's been a 3 1/2 year relentless campaign to defend, to repeal, to get rid of it. if we can all just agree, this is the law of the land, now how do we go forward? i haven't seen that yet. >> i find this amazing. every amendment we offered to try to modify -- a lot of them were improving amendments, we are either voted off on are or when the bill appeared, it disappeared. that's old history. now we say what can we do now? i think you would, too, becaus

barton is assuming this violates hipaa. it would only violate hipaa if people were putting their personal medical information into the application. and so i want to ask the couple of questions about that. as i understand it, you don't need any medical information to enroll people other than the question, do you smoke? is that correct, ms. campbell? >> that is correct. >> mr. slavitt? >> my understanding. >> ms. spellecy? >> we would never visibility into the? >> about you, mr. long? >> that is correct spent people are putting confidential medical information onto the internet and so, therefore, they wouldn't be violating hipaa. i'm disappointed that my friend would go down this road and i would ask unanimous consent to put that article in the record, mr. chairman. >> without objection. >> one last question. went in these exchanges be ready? when can people get on them with reliability? ms. campbell? >> as soon as possible. we are working as hard as we can. >> mr. slavitt? >> s&s systems are currently ready we're doing every

blackburn that it was hipaa compliant and you know that it's not.u admit that you knew it was in their. it may be their decision to hide it but you're the company, not you personally but your company is to put this together. we are telling every american including all of my friends on the democratic side and they are huge privacy advocates. diane degette is chairman of the privacy caucus. you're telling every american if you sign up for this or even attempt to you have no reasonable expectation of privacy that is a direct contradiction to hipaa and you know it yes or no? >> once again cms has to comply with a set of rules and regulations they established under our contract. and that is a cms call. >> you are now saying that they made a decision to break the law. do you agree with that decision? >> i cannot speculate on cms. >> let me ask mr. slavitt. >> this is the first time and becoming familiar with that source code. >> so you were not aware of it? >> i was not aware. >> okay. but me go back to ms. campbell. she at least admitted she knew about i

that is a direct contradiction to hipaa and you know it. >> what? taking one of the executives to task on a line of code on healthcare.gov that would violate hipaa, protecting medical information. except he left out one detail that makes his privacy boogeyman a lot less scary. the website doesn't ask customers for their personal medical information, a point made most emphatically by new jersey democrat frank pallone. >> hipaa only applies when there's health information being provided. that's not in play here today. no health information is required in the application process. and why is that? because pre-existing conditions don't matter. so once again, here we have my republican colleagues trying to scare everybody -- >> will the gentleman yield? >>ly not yield to this monkey court or whatever this is. >> this is not a monkey court. >> i'm not yielding. >> yes! now despite representative pallone's jersey-style smakdown, don't be surprised if the privacy line becomes a recurring theme because scare tactics have been one of their strategies to undo o

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. >> don't matter hipaa doesn't apply, you're asked about your address your date of birth you're not asked health information. why are we going down this pat? because you are trying to scare people so they don't apply so therefore the legislation gets delayed or the affordable care act gets defunded or it's repealed. >> wow. so kimberly, did congress did the house did the committee did we the american people get any answers tonight? >> yes, there were some answers. there was a little bit of clarity. we now know that in fact the contractors, there were four of them up there who were responsible for helping to put this site together and maintain it. they did say in fact that look, here is what happened. we all did our testing and we did our testing independently in advance of the october 1 rollout. everything looked fine. the problem is we never tested between us so when we final reply launched this thing it all fell apart because we had never done any testing amongst ourselves integrating these systems. that's been outlined. but nobody wants to take responsibility for it. these contra

hipaa doesn't apply. you are asked for your address, your date of birth. you are not asked health information. why are we going down this path. >> what do you make of those comments? >> this is a serious attempt to figure out what went wrong. taxpayers spent hundreds of millions to develop a system. the administration said it would work. they looked us in the eye. no problems at all. a month later it's still on half life. no one knows how it's working at all. the it was a serious attempt. there were good comments by republicans and democrats. we want answers. that's what our role is to figure out where we need to go. >> we'll be watching as the secretary intends to appear next week. >> she better be there. >> thank you for being here. we are not done with the health care roll out. next, see how some of the president's biggest media backers are now reporting on this. >>> plus a marine is here to weigh in on the proposal to spend millions of your dollars outfitting our fighters in what critics call girly hats. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had

hipaa compliance, were you all trained in hipaa compliance prior to beginning your contract? i'll just go right down the line, ms. campbell. >> yes. >> mr. slavitt. >> yes.

tell you the problem -- >> protecting american citizens -- >> preexisting conditions don't matter, hipaa doesn't apply, no health information in the process. you're asked about your address, date of birth, not asked health information. so why are we going down this path? because you are trying to scare people so they don't apply. >> covering all angles of what could be called a fiasco here. joe johns on capitol hill with our congressional investigation and the hearings that we're seeing. elizabeth cohen joining us in atlanta focusing on one of the critical design flaws on the website. joe, start off with you first. we're listening to these guys, frank palloone and joe barton going at each other, calling there's a monkey court. are these guys going after each other, scoring political points, are we learning anything about what went wrong here? >> reporter: i think it's a bit of both. they were talking about private circumstance monkey court business. in the big picture, you've got 50-some odd companies who are contractors, only a few represented on the hill. one company, cgi, blames anoth

we spend so much time with the hipaa laws and making sure that health information is private, and thenovernment investigating that, i have a real problem and the public does as well. and the government isn't always very careful with what they look at. this is just opening up a plethora of lawsuits. >> always the one creepy dude who getsings in. most people in government are fine but there's always the one weirdo who seizes on the information or gets information on your, heather, and then starts blasting it out to the world. >> they're not getting my private records. >> how too you know? >> goes back to the trust issue. >> these things are cybersecuritied up the yin-yang, this information -- >> inunder the terms of mo my g, it monitors what is in social media, as in out there for society to see. if they're doing something other than that, of course it's wrong. but if they're doing what they saying they're doing, it's legal. >> how we be sure what they are doing? just like neil said. you get one rogue person who starts -- >> it's all over. >> why do we need too do this. >> all bets are o

and i don't care if it was hipaa based information.was name, addresses, i don't want my name and address going out to one of those 2000 contractors? isn't it fair? and i'll lever it up to you. are you taking it too far? >> no. we're not taking it far at all. the republicans don't need to be the meg phone to announce the problems of obama care. american people are experiencing it for themselves. >> but you are meg phone it all over the place. >> i agree with that to some extent. i don't know that republicans need to take ownership of propelling this message into the public discourse. it will do it on its own. i want people to see the problems with this program that have nothing to go with republicans. it's a problem among democrats and within the program. >> isn't it fair that everything should have constructive criticism? everything our government does should have instructive criticism? >> all in favor. but the president doesn't always handle his messaging right. but will just tried to make a clever move from the website having the gli

and now they are going after so-called privacy indiscretions -- not indiscretions but violations of hipaaaws. this seems to be cooked up to undermine efficacy and permanence of affordable care act. >> this is a real issue. this is a real government failure. this is the kind of thing there should be oversight on. they have a right to hold hearings, what went wrong, who knew. i think that's proper. they are trying to drive it into the old strategy, individual mandates to stop it. they don't need a law to delay individual mandate. first of all we've got until march 31st as you reported. that's a lot of time to fix websites. second of all, they can delay on its own without legislation. they can use hardship exemptions to go to states where people don't have working websites and delay it. there's no need for a law but i think they want a law because they want to stop the law. >> heather, what's incredible about watching hearings, incredible is wrong word, it's depressing. the lack of understanding about what exactly is happening here and the pretense, single out marshall black asking convolute

hipaa doesn't apply. there is no health information about the process. you're asked about the address, date of birth. you're not asked health information, so why are we going down this path? because you're trying to scare people so they don't apply. and so therefore the, the legislation gets delayed or the affordable care act gets defunded, or repealed. that is all it is hoping people won't apply. fact the matter, millions of people, over 20 million going on the site. they are going to apply and they are ultimately going to be able to enroll. in fact many of them already have enrolled. i think my republican colleagues forget, that a lot of people are enrolling through state exchanges, rather than the federal exchange. if it wasn't for the fact that many republican governors including my own from new jersey had agreed to set up state exchanges we wouldn't put so much burden on the federal system. i want to give you some examples n new york and washington, over 30,000 people have enrolled in coverage. in oregon, over 50,000 people have enrolled. in califor

how cloud providers abide by strict standards like hipaa. if it grows, it could be very lucrative. one report projecting the global health care cost computing market will be worth almost $5.5 billion within just 4 years. stephanie chuang, nbc bay area news. >>> previously sealed court documents released today show how jonbenet ramramsey's parentt one point were almost criminally charged with her death. indicted john and patsy ramsey in 1999 of child abuse leading to her death. the ramseys were also accused of hindering the investigation and helping the killer. >> grand jury did not indict for murder. they indicted for child abuse resulting in death. which is an easier thing to prove under these circumstances. >> however, the district attorney declined to press charges saying there just wasn't enough evidence. patsy ramsey died of cancer back in 2006. two years later, prosecutors exonerated both parents after new dna evidence pointed to an unknown male suspect. as for who killed jonbenet, that still remains a mystery. >>> update now on our breaking news in roseville. which is just o

the problem here -- >> protecting american citizens -- >> preexisting conditions don't matter, hipaaoesn't apply, there's no health information in the process, you're asked about your address, date of birth. you're not asked health information. why are we going down this path? because you are trying to scare people so they don't apply. >> republican congressman joe pitts of pennsylvania took part, has been taking part in the hearing, he's a member of committee joining us capitol hill. thanks for coming in. >> thank you. a pleasure to be with you. >> what do you think of congressman pallone's charge you're not trying to fix the website, you're trying to undermine obama care? >> well, that's from a man, although i highly respect him, who thinks everything's okay and we shouldn't ask questions. i think oversight, asking questions is an important role for our committee. >> when you hear him calling this, a quote, monkey court what do you say to him? >> well i didn't say anything to him in the heat of the moment. he used that phrase. it's unfortunate. the energy and commerce committee and

. >> it can be done in a very hit the compliant -- a very hipaa- compliant way. it is more population-based. >> let's talk about some of the initiatives created in the aca. the cmmi, center for medicare and medicaid innovation. it has $10 million over 10 years to "test innovative payments and service delivery models to reduce program expenditures while enhancing the quality of care. the -- care." there are many different varieties of initiatives that they are testing. most of them fall into the accountable care organization category or the patient centered medical home category. there are several bundled payments initiatives several varieties of others. i was hoping the panel could talk a little bit about -- let's start with the aco's. we have some recent evidence some findings come out on the acl -- on athe aco's that showed some saving, some quality findings. what does this tell us. are the aco's the answers? we have aco's that are part of the initiative, we have aco's that are not part of the initiative. what part of the future do they hold? will they be a par

. >> the way the individual market works insurers cannot raise premiums under hipaa unless they cancel people. so every year they cancel them and -- >> you're making my point. they saw it coming as they were telling everybody they could keep the plan and keep the doctor. that's the problem. they shouldn't have said that. >> not only was it foreseeable. it's programmatic, built in by design. it was knowing, deliberate. i don't know how many ways i can say it. they knew all along. nanne see pelosi said we have to pass this piece of legislation to find out what's in it. >> we are finding out. >> we passed it and now we are finding out. >> i have to leave it there. we'll have you back. matt, thank you. >> thank you very much. >> still ahead sh president obama called massachusetts the model of a great health care system. should we worry the bay state could be on the verge of going single payer? that's next. >>> and after a gunman shot up a christian wedding, lashings over wine at communion. senator rand paul on the victims in what he calls the war on christians. peace of mind is important w

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